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Why The Kennedy Assassination Still Matters Greatly

It would be interesting to compile a list of things that the average person would find so much at odds with their conventional beliefs were the truth to be revealed. I don't think the average person thinks much about the JFK assassination. However, imagine the documents that the government has been holding back all these years were revealed and it turned out that there was a heck of a lot more to the story than Lee Harvey Oswald. Imagine if people started reading the memos and stories came out that George HW Bush and the CIA were involved. I know there are probably a lot of people who already think that's the case. But what about the general public? Imagine they were to read this stuff. Wouldn't that at least provide a crack in the "trust the government propaganda" that we always hear? Couldn't that be used in arguments w/ the Piers Morgan's of the world when he tries to convince the public that we don't need our 2nd amendment rights to protect us from all enemies foreign AND domestic?

Well, in November, it's the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination. And if the government is sticking to their "lone nut gunman" story then why in the world would so many documents related to the case still be classified? Public pressure on this issue would be very interesting. It's hard to imagine what the spin would be for not releasing this info.

Keep in mind that Jeb Bush is very possibly going to be a player for the presidential elections in 2016. So the Bush family would definitely not want any JFK info that ties in the Bush family to be released. I doubt they'll ever want this to be released actually. And keep in mind that Marco Rubio is pretty close w/ the Bush family so that could soil his name as well. Of course, if the Bush family is completely innocent then they should have no concerns whatsoever about JFK stuff being released.

But we still have a little over 8 months before the 50th anniversary of JFK's assassination. In other words, there's still a little bit of time to pressure the government to release this stuff. Can we DPers push for this? It might be a VERY good use of our time and effort.




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Johnson ran his election promising to not get into war

He painted Goldwater as a warmonger, remember the famous nuclear bomb ad with the child picking flower pedals? Woodrow Wilson ran his reelection on the slogan "he kept us out of war", only to commit troops to Europe. FDR vowed to not get into WWII, Nixon won promising a "secret" plan to get out of Vietnam, Obama promised to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq. All these presidents promise to be anti war, until they get elected. I don't know what Kennedy would have done, but putting ground troops in Vietnam was a huge mistake.

The irony is that Johnson was

The irony is that Johnson was also talking that way in private! You're right that we can never know. Few presidents have resisted the pressure of war when it became too powerful. Grover Cleveland was one of the last.

Ron Paul would have been a presdent out of the Grover

Cleveland mold, integrity, financially responsible, free trade, a nonintervention foreign policy.

The only other president who

The only other president who resisted war was not as a good on these issues but still deserves praise. John Adams resisted tremendous pressure to go to war with France.

It's far bigger than that

It's about what it represents.

What it represents?

What does that mean? BTW, IMHO, the JFK assassination theories are nonsense. Oswald, a loose cannon if there ever was one, did it alone.

CIA Coup

JFK wanted to "tear the CIA to shreds" (or something along those lines). Instead, he got taken down. Then Bobby Kennedy. Then JFK Jr (who was talking about running for president) mysteriously had the plane crash. Basically TPTB know that if a Kennedy gets into power that the whole JFK investigation would be re-opened and the very ugly truth (whatever it would turn out to be) would be exposed. Ted Kennedy was spared, by the way, because he wasn't going to become president w/ Chappaquiddick hanging over his head.

It will be interesting to see what happens to that younger Kennedy (who dated Taylor Swift who recently got arrested for protesting). If he has any kind of serious political aspirations, he'd better watch his back.

Chappaquiddick was another plot to take down Kennedy


Right on the Watergate Tapes (one of the few that were allowed to be publicly released), it was revealed that Ted Kennedy was the victim of a plot.

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John Dean: "..If they get those Bank records between the start of July 1969 through June of 1971.....there comes Chappaquiddick with a vengeance.

Nixon: (unintelligible mumbling)

John Dean: "If they get into it....that is going to come out, and this whole thing can turn around on that. If Kennedy knew the bear trap he was walking into............

Recorded, March 13, 1973

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All speculation. Sure, JFK

All speculation. Sure, JFK spouted off at the mouth. All presidents do. The facts show, however, is that he was one of the best friends the CIA ever had. Plans to kill Castro, for example, were ONGOING at the time of his death and RFK was in charge of these plans.

Bullcrap


You are spouting Mainstream Media (CIA spoonfed) Lies.

Kennedy was withdrawing from Vietnam.
He signed the World's first Nuclear Treaty with the USSR.
He was shutting down the 'Bay of Pigs' activities (which he had inherited).
He even had the FBI raid the training camps in Louisiana (unprecedented action).

Documentation proves all of this.

For some reasons, my replies

For some reasons, my replies keep disappearing but I'll try for a final time. First, there is no evidence by HIS ACTIONS that JFK was withdrawing from Vietnam. The number of advisers skyrocketed during his administration. The fact that talked about withdrawing is meaningless. So did LBJ. Heck if you listen to the Johnson tapes from 1964 he sounds almost Ron Paulian....yet he sent troops. Talk is cheap from any politician.

JFK did not lose his interest in overthrowing Castro after the Bay of Pigs. The comic opera plots, in league with his sleazy associates in the Mafia to kill Castro, were ONGOING at the time he died. RFK was the man in charge.

JFK was such a scumbag warmonger late in his term that he gave a green light to the assassination of Diem only a month before his own death. Some Hero! The libertarians of 1963, like Rothbard, despised JFK, and for good reason.

More CIA-spoonfed Bullcrap and disinfo.....


It was proven that CIA Operative E. Howard Hunt forged cables to attempt frame Kennedy as agreeing to the assassination of Diem. He was caught and exposed at this in the 1970s.

The truth of course is that the CIA was always defying Kennedy's orders, and going off rouge. It was the CIA and the Pentagon who were the warmongers here. Everyone knows that, and that's why there was such a large conflict and high tension between the CIA and Kennedy.

And Fidel Castro even spoke himself about the fact, that: "this changes everything once he had heard that they had murdered Kennedy.

He knew that Kennedy was fighting against his own Government, to keep the peace.

1. No other President would have ever had the guts, after having been setup by the CIA, to refuse to call in the Army/Airforce/Navy and go to immediate War against Cuba in order to bail out the CIA.

2. No other President would have ever refused to immediately blowup Cuba, once real WMDs (Nuclear Bombs) were found and located just 90-miles off of our coastline.

3. No other President would have signed a Nuclear Treaty, and openly talked about a strategy of Military Disarmament at the very height of the Cold War.

4. And NASM 263 proves that Kennedy was withdrawing from Vietnam. That was the plan on record. Former House Speaker Tip O'Neil told Kennedy that he was bringing the troops home. And Robert Kennedy promised the same thing in 1968 when they shot him too.


Interestingly, there's a young Bush trying to enter

politics in TX, I believe. Too bad there's no threat of getting whacked hanging over his head. (We *do* love our criminals in this country... and the Bush gang are a crime family in the truest sense.)

What would the Founders do?

Bump!

This is a very interesting read,bookmark it for later,things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm.

FBI memo, photo link Bush Sr to JFK Dallas murder scene
George H.W. Bush and Eisenhower.
Bush had been chairman of the Eisenhower-Nixon campaign in Midland, Texas, in 1952 and 1956. Bush sought Eisenhower’s endorsement for his failed senate race in 1964.

http://tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm

50 years...

That, to me, screams cover up.. why have to hide it otherwise.. thinking the involved parties would be dead, gone and not libel for their actions?

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Do the documents still exist any more?

Didn't WTC 7 contain a lot of CIA and FBI offices and libraries?

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You're Probably Right

2 cover-ups melding into 1.

I think it gets released in 15 years?

I remember hearing that the info is sealed for 65 years?

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I believe it is 75 years.

I believe it is 75 years, according to my uncle who retired from the Army after 30 years.

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Not Sure But...

...according to this website, it was supposed to be 50 years. Then again, I have no idea if this website is accurate.

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Freeing_the_JFK_Files

More Secret Files From the Investigations of the 1970s

The most prominent post-Watergate investigation into intelligence agency abuses, the Church Committee, conducted a limited investigation related to the JFK assassination. A slim report with the bland title "The Investigation of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: Performance of the Intelligence Agencies" belied its devastating critique of the FBI and CIA's relation to the Warren Commission. But, as is the custom for Senate investigations, the files upon which the Committee's conclusions were based were locked up for 50 years.