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"Bicycles are bad for environment, and need to be taxed"

Washington State Senate Democrats recently produced a $10 billion transportation package which supports a raise on gas taxes, car tabs, and even a $25 tax on bicycles that cost more than $500.

In an email to Dale Carlson, owner of Bike Tech in Tacoma, Washington Rep. Ed Orcutt (R), a member of the State Transportation Committee, defended the idea of a bike tax by saying, "Sorry, but I do think that bicyclists need to start paying for the roads they ride on rather than make motorists pay."

“When you are riding your bicycle, tell me what taxes are being generated by the act of riding your bicycle,” Orcutt said to the Seattle Bike Blog.

Yet Orcutt's main support for the tax comes from his belief that riding a bicycle is worse than driving a car for the environment.

"A cyclists [sic] has an increased heart rate and respiration. That means that the act of riding a bike results in greater emissions of carbon dioxide from the rider. Since CO2 is deemed to be a greenhouse gas and a pollutant, bicyclists are actually polluting when they ride," he said.

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He's being sarcastic. This is obviously just to make a point.

. . . right?


what a dick

If he is so concerned about the environment, he should help out and stop breathing.

"All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind." - Khalil Gibran
"The Perfect Man has no self; the Holy Man has no merit; the Sage has no fame." - Chuang Tzu

We're already taxed just for breathing,

and now they want a bigger tax for people who breath harder. What about stationary bikes in the spare bedroom?

Just wait until they tax life itself...

because they believe they own you, and you have to pay them for the "privilege" of living.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard



We are now expected to

explain why what we do does not "generate taxes"?????
Why are these people entitled to our money that they did NOTHING to earn?

Well humans living and breathing cause CO2

Does this moron propose to get rid of everyone that still breathes? Ban walking, exercise, yoga, eating...ban everything!

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

I'm The Taxman

If you drive a car I'll tax the street, if you take a walk I'll tax your feet. The beatles sure hit it often didn't they?


"complete streets"

taxing bicycles justifies demanding a lane just for them.

In our town it is part of the comprehensive plan they are pushing through. Vision 2035, whatever name yours goes under...... likely does the same.

They want to turn the 4-lane through town street into 2 automobile lanes divided by a planted meridian and a bike lane.

Search for "complete streets".

More and more our news looks like a collection of Onion stories.

It's bad enough that these goobers propose such nonsense. But even worse is that people elect them.

Bill Gates

Wants to get the CO2 footprint from humans down to zero. How much pollution do you suppose Microsoft factories create?



In his quest to depopulate the earth...

..I wonder if he's considered that his customers are people.

Less people = less customers

Meanwhile in Afghanistan...

They are saving precious fuel so it will not burn in the open air ;)




Mandatory subjects are retarded...get rid of them.

By their logic people should just be taxed for breathing. Environmentalism is nature worship. It's not about making the world a cleaner place, it's about humans being crap. The world is run by utter morons.

Bikers do get off pretty good. They don't have to carry insurance, despite that they are moving slower than everything else and are more of a liability than an actual car. Bike riders have some kind of trendy liberal smugness about them and think they own the road. Roads are built for cars, not for slow-moving pedal-powered yuppie devices. You have parks that have paths. Use them. They shouldn't be taxed, but if the rest of us need to be licensed, insured, inspected, and registered, so should they if they want to use the road.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

Looks like I pissed off some

Looks like I pissed off some bike-riding yuppies. Waaaa.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

People who are in shape use

People who are in shape use air a lot more efficiently and expend less CO2 than the average person who doesn't exercise. The only time they would be expending more CO2 is while exercising and during cool down. The rest of the day and night they are likely expending markedly less CO2. So this politician is doubly stupid. The crook is just looking to tax anything he can, and then trying to give himself environmental brownie points.


a tax for unfit people then ?

Freedom is a byproduct of acceptance - judge not.

Taxing breathing?!

I half expeced it to be a luxury tax, not a CO2 tax, seeing as how you can easily get a bicyle for less than $500.

I cant believe this guy is serious. If this gets passed, it will set a bad precedent. That they are able to tax you because you are breathing is very very bad.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Road to Serfdom

Without limits the Gov will always push a master plan. This plan just happens to be dumber than normal. tax cars and/or bikes because they pollute but use revenue to expand the same high pollution infrastructure system. hmmm...

A Joke?

Seriously.. I thought this was a joke...

How do these guys stay in office... who listens to this and doesn't demand this guy resign for extreme idiocy?

For that matter joggers create more CO2 than cyclist and use trails so perhaps we should create a jogging tax and require annual registration of running shoes when you buy them...

who votes for these people?

the biggest problem we have is that too many of our citizens are dumber than dirt. We are F.U.C.T.

Tell me what taxes are being generated riding a bike? Huh?

The Representative asked the guy to tell him what taxes are being generated by the act of riding a bicycle? As if every action a human being takes should be taxed by default. What is wrong with saying, the act of riding a bicycle genrates zero tax revenue?

On the other hand, most bicyclists pay sales taxes on the bike, bike accessories, bike maintenance and repairs. In addition, most bicyclists also own a car and pay sales tax on the car, states tax on the fuel for the car, and car registration fees. Perhaps the guy could write the Representative back and ask for a tax refund for the days that he rides his bike instead of his car.

I think its time for Eastern

I think its time for Eastern Washington and Northern Idaho to break off and join Montana. Conservative cities like Spokane are constantly getting screwed on taxes that get funnelled to Seattle anyway.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

I didn't know

I never heard of a conservative city. Is this a real thing? How long could that go on?

Next to be Taxed:

All forms of exercising.
Exciting movies.

On the good news front, anything regarded as being "breathtaking" will actually earn you a credit.


Eric Hoffer

Carbon Dioxide is plant food

Insanity. Being taxed extra for heavier breathing?

These people need to be dealt with.




on top everything previously mentioned... Body sweat is polluting our water supply from all of these cyclists.. don't they care about the environment? I think we need to make them have catalytic converters for their lungs and bubble suits to contain their pollutants

proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.

There's more hot air in these

There's more hot air in these moronic politicians than what is coming out of a bicyclist's mouth, so the best thing to do is put a huge tax on them to pay taking office.

Better yet, just ban them outright.

☠☠ The article does not even mention

the fact that cyclers burn precious calories requiring higher caloric intake and more hydrocarbon fuels to grow the food.