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Can't Believe What I Heard from a Little Old Lady Today!

So I went to the post office today in my little town to handle some mailing for my business. While filling out an express mail ticket I'm listening to a nice elderly lady talking to the post master about the USPS changes. Recently they sent out a letter to everyone in town and probably other towns as well that had multiple choice questions. The questions we along the lines of "should we close down your post office and contract out the mail delivery?" or "should we discontinue Saturday delivery and window service or contract it out?" and some other questions. Anyway, she tells the postmaster she wrote on the questionnaire that "they should leave the post office alone and keep it the way it is now." He tells her he agrees but thinks they won't count her questionnaire because she didn't choose from the list of questions.

Well, then out of nowhere she gets angry loud and says; "They should be following the Constitution!", "I used my freedom of speech when I wrote that on the questionnaire and by god they should honor that!" The postmaster agrees, then she says; "That's whats wrong with this country anymore, they don't care about the Constitution, or follow the Constitution anymore!"

Well, I can't tell you how happy I was to know that a 75+ year old, someones grandma knew what was wrong in this country and wasn't afraid to come out and yell it right there in the post office. I totally agreed with her as she passed by for the door.



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I support the Post Office

It's one of the few constitutional things the federal government does. I ship everything I can using the USPS, and I pay all my bills using USPS money orders and snail mail.

The elderly feel they have nothing to lose, that's why

The elderly feel they have nothing to lose, that's why. Reach a certain age, and who cares about consequences?

Anyway, she wasn't badmouthing a dictator in Africa or anything.

She ought to stick up for the post office. It was Ben Franklin's creation. It may be badly managed but it takes in enough money to cover operations. It is just being choked to death by Congress, which sends back too little money for its budget.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

USPS should

like all government, stop sponsoring all the sports involvement. US bicycling team, dragsters, etc. They paid Lance Armstrong's expenses. That costs billions.And advertising on all media, sheesh. They've got a monopoly. But it tells me how little they think of our tax dollars. Stamps are a tax. Private business people could make a profit with a much lower postage.

Live Free Or Die

The administrators got fat raises and pension bonuses too

The administrators got fat raises and pension bonuses too. They think of themselves as private corporation, out to do promotions and sponsoring events, as well as shelling out bonuses for themselves. But that's not their purpose. Communication is. USPS is not supposed to make a profit either, nor should profitability or even balanced budgets be important compared to keeping communities linked to one another. But good stewardship of its responsibilities has gone right out the window, just like every other task of the government. Lazy, corrupt nitwits are out to kill the first federal institution of our republic if only because they are too stupid to know they're doing it.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

Budget Propaganda

It is also being used for budget and tax propaganda.

Local, state, or federal, they never talk about cutting waste and fraud, stupidity, and war; no, they threaten beloved instititutions like emergency services, libraries, and roads, and, in this case, a local post office. This is how they try to get voters to vote to enslave themselves further.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

US Postal Service Ownership & Privatization, 1971 ~ 2009

Here is a Cato Institute take on explaining the complicated US Independent Agency relationship between the US Government & the quasi-independent US Postal Service agency. They do not separate out what is US Post Office vs US Postal Service. I am not an expert. Seems to me, since 1971, USPS behaves like a private corporation with a governmental charter. That charter is to deliver US mail.

Privatizing the U.S. Postal Service Cato Institute, November 2010

The article is well researched & presented. 48 authoritative references. Brief introduction, good description of declining revenues & daunting future prospects, with a succinct conclusion.

Generally believable. Very debatable.

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Lysander Spooner had a bone

Lysander Spooner had a bone to pick with the post office

lawrence

Wonderful American author.

I respect his ability to spell out how our government is set up to work. The fact that our government seldom works per plan yielded much consternation. His writing is quite helpful.

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The Post Office is one of many bad aspects of Constitution

It should be abolished. It has a monopoly on first class mail and still loses billions every year. The old lady was wrong. It shouldn't be kept just the way it is. There is no logical justification for forcing people to subsidize this dinosaur, regardless of whether the Constitution grants the government the power to run it.

Easy now.

Do you want to dwindle one of the only two benefits hard working libertarians receives for all that money we send in? Roads and the PO: that's all I have ever received from any government.

I say stop the wars before the cheap mail service.

Oddly enough

The post office receives very little tax supported funding comparably speaking to other government agencies. They are some screwy hybrid agency service that is expected cover their costs with revenues generated from their service yet their rates, deliveries, salaries and other business aspects are mandated by Congress. The post master and I have had several talks on the workings of the post office, a man whom I can say is very libertarian. As far as government over-reach, the post office is low on my concern list. However I do think privatizing it, or at the very least getting the bureaucrats out of the way so they can operate it like a business would be for the best.

The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it-Andrew Jackson

US Post Office contracts to US Postal Service, Inc.

Now the contractor, USPS, Incorporated is subletting their contract?

Welcome to USPS.com, a private corporation. Offering "no bid" mail service within the United States of America & its territories for a long, long time.

USPS - The United States Postal Service (U.S. Postal Service)
https://www.usps.com/ (note the ".com" as in commercial enterprise)

Note: US Post Office is Constitutionally a part of the US Government. The "Postal Service" is under contract to deliver US mail.

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Is There...

...some reason you are surprised that an 'old person' can discern that the Constitution is being violated and would dare speak out about it?

The Constitution has been violated for longer than any of us have drawn breath and people have been fighting for liberty all along.

None of this started with Ron Paul or any currently 'young' people.

I swear some of the wet behind the ears 'purported' liberty advocates who recently got into the game, believe they began it and are its sum total.

Not so much her age

but the idea that a seemingly mild mannered nice grandma would be mad enough to be vocal in the post office. Especially since as a neighborhood captain for the RP campaign I called everyone on my phone lists and found very few Paul supporters in my rural area or people who felt like the Constitution was under attack. It just caught me off guard, in a good way. As far as older folks being awake I've been listening to my libertarian father age 75 fly off the handle for all of my 40 year old life.

The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it-Andrew Jackson

Understood and My Comment Was...

...not specifically directed at you. I hope you understand that.

It was a general comment on the specific issue of the 'young people' that Ron Paul has placed so much of people's attention on.

It would also pay to remind oneself that people who truly believe in Liberty and constitutionally-limited government were and are scant few.....even in this supposed liberty-movement which is represented on the DP.

I hear it all the time, 'energized young people', 'awake young people', 'college kids' and on and on and on....

It has kind of taken on a life of its own and it seems many are either unaware of or forgetting that this battle is age-old and many of our long-departed, currently aged and the middle-aged, have been committed, educated, awake and engaged for many years.

Comparative to the founding of the Republic so long ago, we here today are mere shadows of those men who were so committed and had such liberty-driven purpose and focus.

I do get the whole 'future generation' thingy and the need to wake up new people to continue, however.

A pet peeve only.

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Sometimes I wonder..

You know, sometimes I think it might just take another round-up by the good old Selective Service, or 'draft board' to stir up the college campuses again. Boy, those were the days....and I do not mean 'the good old days'. Sure did wake me up!

"I just want to live in a free country" - Dr. Ron Paul

Yeah, Strange Times

I Was young and naive back in the day...I volunteered.

Learned lots of life-lessons, though not all of them good.

It was the real catalyst of my early awakening to globalism.

Regardless, many of us have been educated in, experienced in, ass-deep in and utterly committed to this fight, for many years.

It is NOT a new battle just because some have only recently started opening their eyes.

I share your passion for swearing. When times got really bad...

"I sent down...and hired an artist by the week to sit up nights and curse that stranger, and give me a lift occasionally in the daytime when I came to a hard place." - Mark Twain, "A Mysterious Visit"

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It is my

It is my understanding that the Dept of Homeland Security has defined anyone who supports the US constitution as a terrorist or a potential one so maybe a trip to Guantanamo Bay and a few hours of waterboarding will let her see the error of her ways.

Follow the constitution. Geez. What a dinosaur. Doesn't she know that we are living in post constitutional America?

I was hoping....

...she was going to go Napolitano style and say, "Shut down the post office and sell off their assets".

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).