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New Genome Study Destroys Zionists Claims to Palestine

Please read the full story at:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/01/new-genome-study-des...

On December 14, 2012, Dr. Eran Elhaik turned almost two generations of Jewish genome research upside down.

But he went even further. The young Israeli-American geneticist has charged former researchers with academic fraud, and he has the research to back it up.

As far as I am concerned AIPAC can go to hell! I am done with their lies and what Israel has been doing to the Palestinian people.

Enough !

We should stop throwing away our money on these other countries and let them defend for themselves

"...we see signs of an

"...we see signs of an increasing desire to disengage from world events and focus inward." Thank God.

It takes repetition for folks to grasp things

With no US aid to all, Israel will be ahead of its neighbors. Ron Paul stressed that MANY times. I do not understand why our anti-Zionists do not believe Ron Paul. The doctor never lied for political expediency or popularity. Now, under free-market capitalism and small taxes, American Jews will send their own money to Israel instead of subsidizing your children. Fair is fair.

If you whine about Israel and Jews today, imagine your uncomfort under free-market capitalism.

Liberty, I am calling you out

Liberty, I am calling you out on your outrageous anti Arab bigotry. Do you think it is impossible for a Jewish person to ever do something wrong? Do you not see the trap you set for people when you say they are anti-Jewish whenever they criticize Israel? I am really getting tired of your nonsense. Look in the mirror and see the bigot within. You hate Arabs. Face it and get help.

What are you talking about?

It seems this forum supports withdrawing all foreign handouts to every country and would have no qualms with American jews sending their own earned money to Israel. It is their money they can do with it what they want. It just so happens that Israel has a huge war lobby and Pakistan doesn't.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

I am not sure you understand

about all folks here. Many joined Ron Paul not out of love for capitalism, but out of their mistaken belief that since the media and AIPAC criticizes RP for his stance on Israel, that means RP policies will weaken Israel.

Anti-Zionists here do not understand their contradiction - they want to curb Zionists, but their Libertarian ideas will only make Israel stronger. If anti-Zionists understood the reality (that private bankers wont disappear and Jews will do well under capitalism), they would have joined a collective ideology like National Socialism. (Their mistake comes from their belief in what neo-cons and AIPAC say. But those do not make Israel stronger, but make it the opposite - weaker and dependable. Aid only grows local socialism in Israel.)

I am not

sure you understand. You say that neocons make Israel weaker, yet it is thanks to them they got 250 bunker buster nukes, iron dome etc etc. Private bankers would not do as well if it were not for fractional reserve banking, I don't care who runs it. You have this preconception that a large part of Paulers support all the ideals which can be found throughout the DP just because they want "Zionists" to disappear, yet if that were their goal they would be joining BO. He is as close as a national socialist this country has ever seen. The ideology found on this site is the exact opposite of national socialism.

My question to you that you have not answered before. You say that "You challenge the validity of all religions," so do you challenge the validity of the Jewish state, or the Jewish religion, or just that of islamists and Christians?

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

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Are you suggesting American Jews have dual loyalties?

Longtime Internet Poster

No, I suggest

to learn what freedom actually is. You will be free to spend your money on yourself, your church or send it to Arabs. Jews will be free too.

If you are focused, you will see that Jews (except those who are socialists and government clerks) and Israel will benefit under free-market more than fans of Sharia Law. So if curbing Zionists is very important for your life and mental health, you have only few options - switching to National Socialists (Nazi) or at least to Democrats.

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Why can't American Jews just become patriots for the actual country they live in, like Murray Rothbard? Why do you suggest, collectively, that Jews will send (easy to infer you mean an American collective) money to Israel?

You are suggesting a dual loyalty, and agreeing with the Far Right charge.

Longtime Internet Poster

Thats fine and consumers can

Thats fine and consumers can choose to patronize businesses, organizations, etc. who support or dont support that. http://www.vtjp.org/background/boycott_products.php

With little

government, nobody will know who actually own things under subsidiaries and trusts. The media will be the same, serving business interests.

It is all boils down to one fact - Jews, on average, compete well under fair free-market competition based on their own personal abilities. That will bring them disproportionate wealth. If our folks feel an urge to curb Jews today, there will be no hope for them in a free society.

One straw man argument after another

Well Liberty_First, hating all non-Jews is not productive in a free market. For Jews like you who despise non-Jews, it's difficult to conduct transactions in an friendly manner, blah, blah, blah...

How's it feel to have an straw man argument loaded with false assumptions directed at you Liberty_First? Sucks huh. So stop doing it to everyone else.

Uh......

These things you list that hides ownership is a function of big government. Clear and transparent ownership of corporate holdings is a characteristic of free markets. Of course, so is a vigilant and organized consumer.

The media, in a free market setting, will kow tow to the consumer.

The reason listed as giving favor to Israel is that they are a secular democracy......

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about? Are we supposed to be scared?

I do not know what do you mean "WE"

I simply suggest for those who are anti-Zionist to use your rational faculty on this simple issue. Evaluate what is more important to you to curb Jews and Israel or to achieve free-market capitalism. Both cannot be achieved together.

Since anti-Semites are synonimous of black racists who see white people as "evil white man", black people also have a dilemma should they accept free-market capitalism or not (knowing the ability of white men to compete.) As inferior black men hate white men today out of fear and envy, the same way, white and Asian anti-Semites feel unrecognized inferiority against Jews. That is why they hate and constantly think about Jews.

"Anti-Semites"? We don't

"Anti-Semites"? We don't hate Palestinians, so what are you talking about anti-Arab bigot?

Political monopoly

The fact is our aid to Israel creates a political monopoly for the likud party. Without the direct support of our printing presses funding a minority party in a foreign land we may very well see a different landscape is Israel.
The likuds are associated with zionism. The people of Israel are far more diverse and with far more internal dissent than we know.

AIPAC members should be

AIPAC members should be packed into C-130s and dropped over Iran.

Again, one sided propaganda

In reality, the pressure from Saudi Arabia should not be overlooked. For example, most of the funding to "rebels" in Syria comes from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia, together with Israel, lobby to stop Iran from having a nuke. AIPAC is funded by Pentagon and CIA and represents American people who make gainful employment from endless wars (like Arab immigrants who signed up for Pentagon and Homeland Security as interpreters.)

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/51031228/ns/local_news-charleston_...

Kerry just gave extra $250M to Egypt despite of the tight budget and cuts. Not a single post on DP. Anti-Semites feel shy.

Um, I oppose aid to Egypt,

Um, I oppose aid to Egypt, but find it interesting that you are much less troubled by the fact that we give at least three times to Israel what we give Egypt. And you don't mind giving money to a nation, whose intelligence agency was involved in 9/11. You really hate Arabs don't ya?

"isolationism"

Not surprised they used this word. @2:46

Talking about the growing American desire to leave the complicated affairs of the middle east:
"Conservatives and liberals alike, they just want out.
For Israel, even the tendency toward isolationism is extremely dangerous."