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Amish Propaganda

Anyone watching all the recent Amish "Programming on tele-vision?"
The first show I saw was "Amish Behaving Badly," followed by, "Breaking Amish, then The Hutterites, and now it's the Amish Mafia."

I have seen these shows, and each show is progressivly getting worse and they in no way represent the people I have met. When I first saw the advertisements for the shows to air, I said to a friend:

"Watch, the end-purpose of these shows will soley be about down grading the Amish. In the end, The programmers will seek to make them out to appear to be nothing more than royal-backward-hillbilly-baffoons."

Now, these recent shows have gone far beyond making them out to be just the royal-backward-hillbilly-baffoons but they are now hell bent on making them out to appear dementedly Evil, with a capital "E" and the programmers are always portraying them as using the Bible to justify that evil.

Are the Amish perfect? Of course not, they have their problems, like every other human and everyone knows that. But then again, all humans already understand that part of the human dynamic so I need not explain or defend something we already understand.

As usual much of what gets aired on "reality TV" is not real TV. It is cut, edited and there are quite often actors. Who's behind this? What is the objective of this smear?

Just for the record, IMO the saboteurs, such as these that broadbrush-target people they don't even know are amongst some of the lowest forms of life on the planet. Show some respect.

Programming = To train or regulate the mind or senses to preform in a given way.

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as someone who hasn't had MSM for over 40 years--

why would anyone want to waste their time of this stuff?

But, on the other hand, sometimes *we* need to know what the majority of Americans are seeing--

I come on DP, after all, to find out what the rest of *you* are observing/seeing/learning.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

The Amish People have a Virtue Set Such that they don't need ...

...to be governed. They don't need government. Think about it. It must enrage the controllers that they can't divide these people against themselves so the government can jump in as the "referee" and start controlling. Virtuous people who share the same moral code DON'T NEED GOVERNMENT. This is a threat to the controllers, hence it is time to demonize them.

Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

I agree with this--

it IS easy to see both their vulnerability and, sometimes, their narrow perspective, but I completely agree--

and I am concerned about this--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

just another product of

just another product of tel-aviv-ision

There are many objectives.

There are many objectives. The main one is to demonize them so the general public will cheer when they are rounded up and put in cages and attack those who defend the Amish.

I won't stand by and let . . .

this happen.

I hope.

I'm not sure I can be there fast enough--

I don't doubt there are people this evil, though.

I feel a connection to my Amish neighbors, and I feel a strange sort of protectiveness towards them.

Spouse and I haven't collected weapons at all, but--

I know that we are probably more aware of what is going on in the outside world than our Amish neighbors--

And why does Alex Jones insert a 'submit to fear' subliminal message in his movies?

How did you catch that?

WOW!

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

That thought breaks my heart

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In light of this thread

In light of this thread and the posts below, a question comes to mind:

Should we support the amish community and purchase food, furniture, etc. from them? Or would it be in their best interest to leave them alone?

Amish are willing to do business with outsiders as long as we do not infringe, and as long as they do not register with govt. [ie: drivers license, gun databases, etc.]. They are private, but also require money to survive. There are some reports of amish running into problems because the price of land is being inflated just to push them out.

I am for wholesome foods, quality furniture built here, rather than support China-slave-wages, etc. However, I would not want to do anything that would set a precedent that would cause feds to speed up the process of doing to amish what they did to native Americans.

I am not privy to these types of situations, so recommendations are welcome.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I don't know . . .

I hesitate to say too much on here about that--

We supported a family (well, purchased some foodstuffs from them) in their business (Amish/Mennonite)--

and we talked with them a lot and got quite close to them.

There were some real concerns about legalities that cropped up, and . . . they moved; they were due to move anyway for other reasons (sort of), but they left--

and I've been concerned since.

I think that *they* sense that the government in the U.S. is getting worse; they don't stay in touch with the media as most Americans do, but they have their own grapevines and their own way of absorbing what is happening, and I sense that there are some real concerns. I'm understating.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Good points PAF

and for the most part, these days, they do want and many need to do business with the outside world.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

My experience with the Amish

My experience with the Amish is always a very pleasant one. They are hardworking, honest people.

I too was disappointed at the portrayal of them in these "reality shows" (I've only seen a few episodes though)

These shows are all over the

These shows are all over the TV. Hoarding is another one. Have a messy home, collect things, or know someone who does? Then, you will be taken away by people with guns to put you into adult foster care. Forget the fourth amendment. Its for your own safety and especially your childrens. Theyll be taken away too.

The Amish...

don't need the Govt and must be demonized. And they want to genocide the American people with raw milk.

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Why must they be demonized?

They have prime land. Demonize those to be looted.

They are independent of government, unenslaved.

What if that idea infected the borg mind?

Free includes debt-free!

they will be demonized...

until they willingly join the new world order.

The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.

- Calvin Coolidge

There have been many movies by Anglanders with Anglanders

and for Anglanders.

Communities are basically on their own. If a house burns down, the community pays back past labor investments. The rules are strict but biblically based. It has provided 500 years of cohesion for the mutual benefit of the members of the community.

Adult members only. The work is hard government is local and by consensus by the rules (Ordnung for each jurisdiction).

Healthy eats. Wealth producing life. Wise?

How we defend their rights in the face of abusive governments is but a part of the general welfare. Governments will be reluctant to help.

Free includes debt-free!

We have Amish folk in our community and I love the people

The ones I have met are gentle and kind, hardworking and a pleasure to be around, IMO. I just took a couple to town today. She has cancer so I take her to town for treatments. I look forward to those days. I had cancer a few years back and I count it a privilege to drive them in her time of need.

I am also a bit envious in the sense that they have large families so they are able to pass on family tradition. The older girls help with the home and younger siblings and then when those older siblings have children the young help and learn.

Honestly, I think part of the reason alot of families have decayed is that being a family is not passed on. i.e. a lot of times I feel at a loss when it comes to managing my home because I was never taught.

I wonder if the Amish are being demonized like the Jews in Nazi Germany so when "they" start rounding people up, people won't mind seeing them go...

...

BINGO

"Their land needs to be appropriated for the greater good. We will be relocating them and compensating them equivalently."

Yeah, sure you will after you also take their gold fillings I'm sure.

ZIONIST

Zionists run hollywood, what do you expect, Amish heritage gets in the way of the plans they have for america, and we see that influence in the daily tv programming, welcome to america

nuff said

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

Embarrassed to say.....

I'm addicted to all of them and have a crush on that Hutterite girl! I do think they write a script for a lot of the shenanigans, but I still watch the crap.

just a couple of thoughts -

it is spelled Hutterites and the Hutterites are not Amish. Although they are both Anabaptist in origin.

Their philosophies and practices are also different in terms of community property, banking, days/weeks and locations of their services etc.

Where did you see these films?

Ron Paul is My President

Thanks.....

Just to clarify, you're right and I should of been a more clear, about the Hutterites, that said, my point there was the ties of all these series all coming out now and the scripted parts are clearly showing thru.

I'm seeing them on regular TV, Dish Network (which I don't really care for). Don't have the channel handy, but they've been airing weekly for approximatly a year now.

Will correct the spelling :)

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Thanks for replying

and I did a search and found out that there is a series on the Discovery channel that started in December. I don't have a TV but I am going to see if I can find a download to watch them.

Is there another series cuz you mentioned a weekly series that has been showing for about a year now?

If you know what the regular TV channel is could you post it please.

We have several Amish communities here in Maine a couple of towns away who came up here and purchased land cuz it's much cheaper and the soil/water is good.

And adding to 1988's comments. That goes for up here too. But the biggest problem I think that any Amish or Hutterites etc. share is the inbreeding. It does lead to problems in several ways - such as physical, emotional and psychological. That is how they grow their communities - by marrying within.

Also, if the Amish join the church and then stray from the teachings of the Ordnung, they are on "probation" for a short time and then shunned, if they do not repent in front of the Bishop and the members of the church. And that practice could be considered cruel.

There is more too but that comes to mind right off the bat.

Thanks

Ron Paul is My President

You said:

"Also, if the Amish join the church and then stray from the teachings of the Ordnung, they are on "probation" for a short time and then shunned, if they do not repent in front of the Bishop and the members of the church. And that practice could be considered cruel. "

IMO, They have a system in place to help detour and/or correct destructive behavior. When sin takes root something alot crueler can happen to one's life and the lives of others than having to publicly repent. I think they have managed to maintain a heritage that has been long lost by other "Christians."

Will do sunny......

I'll be able to find out channel & times tonight. Also, got to clarify summore, all these series have been coming out over a year on the same Dish channel. Each one only seems to be on for a few months or so. Right now "Amish Mafia" is the one their airing. My critic: Sad, dry, scripted. Just my opinion.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Hi ya sunny

It's my wife that tunes the show in so I'm not sure what channel it's on. I asked her last night while we were out and she said Amish Mafia airs Sundays but wasn't sure of the channel with no tv around to look it up. I think it comes on at 9 or 9:30PST. I tried to look it up for you on this link, but my computer freezes up on this page. Give it a try to see if you can get it. Get back to me if you can't.

If not I'll "engage" the wife again....... :)

http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCGrid.do?aid=dishtv

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

My family lives in PA and

My family lives in PA and while of course reality TV is produced and editted like anything else, the Amish aren't innocent. They keep children isolated and uneducated and there is tons of abuse stories just like any other isolated religious cult with its own laws.

You're generalizing--

I know quite a few Amish; we have 'business' dealings with them, and they are not as isolated as you would think.

Yes, their children do usually go to separate schools, but they are very bright. The Amish children I have seen have unusually bright eyes, and they are very observant. They aren't the little zombies I see when I look at 'normal' American children. They don't have television, and they aren't drugged, and it makes a difference. If anything, those that I know are mature and knowledgeable (and disciplined) beyond the same-age "American" children.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Yes. I've found the children and adults to be without guile.

Lived in Indiana for five years traded them paper money for food.

We both found it a mutual benefit. We both kept coming to market.

Where else can folks go find mutual benefit.

To Market to Market to buy a fat pig.

Free includes debt-free!

Paul

U crack me up. R U Cing any of these shows?

A friend of mine gets raw milk from them in No. Ca. Purchases are on a trust basis. Just walk in a little room, get what you want and leave a donation.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks