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Israeli Dual Citizens Explain Where Their Real Loyalties Lie

The future congressmen of America here...So long as we continue to bury our heads in the sand with regard to the common theme that unites all liberty obstacles.

http://youtu.be/Qee0qk-CTzg



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Israel should be paying the

Israel should be paying the USA foreign aid for their protection we provide. Donald Trump said the same thing on Greta Van Sustern show last night.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/index.html#http:...

This is propeganda

It's obvious the students are reading the oath for the first time, and they are out partying, had a few drinks, and are having a great time, are happy, LOVE where they are. They are under the influence and I enjoyed seeing the LOVE they have for Israel, unlike so many Americans who claim they LOVE America, but spew HATE all day about it.

I'm not making any excuses for the student's loyalties, but rather disapproving of the method they are revealed, in that if it was titled, "Come to Israel, You'll LOVE it".. those who don't LOVE Israel, wouldn't bother, but rather this title is to upset those who HATE Israel, and LOVE America despite all their HATE about it...such as duel citizenship, which to me, is Jealousy more than anything.

Another thingthat was very clear in the video was the freedom the students enjoyed compared to the police state America has become, and not because of ir for Israel, but because of the HATE that perpetuates fear.

I upvoted this comment because

several friends who have come back from Spain, and other parts of Europe-not the UK- and Australia and South America tell me that the first thing they noticed when they were out and about and even at the airports is the freedom they felt there. Spain has had it's problems and they still say they felt freer there than in the U.S. The police don't harass you, you don't feel like you are being watched all the time and the biggest crime is usually pick pockets. They didn't feel tense when they were in large crowds like they do over here. This is sad, when the USA is supposed to be known for their freedom, but it has now turned into a big police state.

Actually you've got it backwards.

More often then not, being "under the influence" brings out the *honesty* in people, not the dishonesty. And here it is again at work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas

And yes you are "making excuses" for their loyalty to the foreign, terrorist state of Israel. Textbook-syle.

I don't agree

I don't agree that Israel is a terrorist state, as I believe Israel is WAY more free than the USA.

Probably true if you can

Probably true if you can block out the concentration camps they've built for their neighbors. No wonder the GOP lets people like you in!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Compare theirs to ours

Ours are global.

Interesting.

So if Terrorist A is less evil than Terrorist B, then Terrorist A is not a terrorist?

Kinda like Mad Max Spy Vs Spy

Israel has growing pains because so many people want to be in Israel. Why do so many people LOVE Israel so much they will fight for it? Because Israel is free, far freer than the USA at this point. Freedom is worth fighting for, and yet, we lose ours and say Israel should not fight for it's right to grow.

To grow? at the cost of whom..

Ever been to Israel granger?

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

Good question.

...and with whose hard-earned money? It's the Grangers here we all need to be mindful of.

Truth is, Granger is a Zio

Truth is, Granger is a Zio Lover, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Yup.

...and just like a Zio, she tries to morph the point of the thread ever so slightly into a completely different direction. Is there a freedom contest going on that I wasn't aware of?

So it's a matter of degrees

So it's a matter of degrees to you?

Plus, and everyone here knows it, they control our government.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I'd prefer to think Americans lead

so it would be best for America to end it's own prison programs than to condemn abnother nation's (who has far fewer).

As for "what everyone knows". Israel does not control our government. they do have a great influence on our government and corporations because they show up, which is more than what, "everyone else does".

I believe Israel is an apartheid state and the US should

shun and shame them just like we did South Africa-- until they start letting Arabs have equal rights. They even started segregated bus services last month. You can't go anywhere if you are a Palestinian. You have to show papers to cross the street and then you have to pray the IDF won't abuse you or worse. There are hundreds of videos showing this and I'm sure you have seen some, Granger. And Israel IS more free than the U.S.---if you're Jewish.

Why would you want "equal rights"?

Why don't we do this for Canada and Mexico first? Maybe because Mexico and Canada are freer?

Shame Israel for what? Being the freeest area in the Mideast? Palestinians work in Israel, live in Israel and even marry Israelis. I think most of the feelings for Palestine are based on ignorance, since many people have no idea about what Israel stands for in the ME on many levels.

Decades ago, I saw those videos and I was very angry about Rachel Corrie.. and the propeganda.. Here's some propgeganda http://www.youtube.com/user/nbnutube?v=Z3FA3xeW6Bc

If you believe FREEDOM, and that includes the FREEDOM to chose your own religion or not, Israel is that freedom, and they are fighting for freedom. Those who do not see this are not fighting for freedom, just trading propeganda stories with plenty of harsh feeling for a people and place they know NOTHING about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeVvMJdvEX8

Most free my ass! Thanks but

Most free my ass!

Thanks but no thanks. Rand doesn't get my support if he's YOUR man!

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/law-enforcement-corruptio...

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

It's TRUE

Israel is more free than the USA. Rand is definately who I'm standing with.

You like Rand because you

You like Rand because you like controller's!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I like Rand because I like liberty

While I do believe that civilization has rules and controlls and some actually serve people, I also believe there are many laws that are not serving the people.. and we have to look no further than Israel to see what it is like to fight for freedom. The controllers are those who do not appreciate freedom.

You could be "w's"

You could be "w's" speechwriter at the rate you're going!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Thank you for playing.

But it's really not debatable.

on further thought--

as a parent (in the 60s bracket), I feel a compassion for the young people of the world, whatever their religion, race, etc.--

and this troubles me, this fixation on tribal divisions--

and militancy.

It troubles me no more from kids from the U.S. than from anywhere, but it is very telling.

This is what America has come to?

Well, I guess *we* knew that--

Just tribal divisions; divisions. Bad things ahead.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I agree with the one young man, who lost his courage--

he began to say that nobody should swear loyalty to a nation--then he backed off; he got insecure . . . and put conditions on it--

This is telling, but--

what can *we* do about it? I don't expect my children to swear loyalty to the U.S.

That would entail their being willing to go kill other people--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Restore the Republic

I'm finding that be being involved politically, that we have the opportunity to not only learn and teach, but actually do something, if even just on a local level. There should be programs that teach Robert's Rules and how to write resolutions and getting folks involved that is cultural rather than military/police state or outlaw.

Yes, more than that and we are the ones who should do it

Thank you.

I only care

when government official, elected or not, snub their oath of office. And therein lies most of the problems of the US. I could not care less if Jews pledge allegiance to Israel, especially when festively ambushed while drunk.