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UN Small Arms Treaty Petition for Printout - PA Rep Mike Kelly Is Asking For Help

* UN Small Arms Treaty Conference is March 18, 2013 in New York *

I have made this to be printed and distributed. It is in pdf and you can cut it in half to get 2 pages from 1.

Please print and distribute this as you go about your day, and also share the link:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByQwORyEoye6Z2hVbEVUSVJETm8/...

Sign the Online Petition http://attpetition.com

Edit: In light of Rand Paul's outstanding job today, I have renamed this to let you know that PA Rep Mike Kelly is asking for help. Mike is funding this petition himself. Let us help ALL those who are fighting for our cause :-)

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Signed, sealed and

Signed, sealed and delivered.

It took 10 seconds of my time, much less time than those who debated the OP about this below. Idiots.

Signed....

....but I can't recall when I have ever seen a petition work. Still, it behooves us to try though.

Is the link working?

I get a Google doc error when I click on the google link.

Hit refresh

Hit refresh a few times and it will work. I have encountered the same thing, but do not know why.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I didn't say it below but

I personally don't like putting my name on a list.. I might be on one somewhere anyway but I'm not inclined to help them out.

Also, I've become very leery of online petitions.. People have used them to data mine for other things. We're not living in an honest world and politics draw the worst people.

I feel your frustration though. It feels like limbo here. I do however do things offline that I don't post here for various reasons but things are getting done.. Maybe not on a grand scale but I do what I can! :)

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

I think that is where a lot of us are

There is a strong and growing "self reliance" movement in Idaho, and it is sort of replacing the "political activism" movement. We TRIED, and there are still good people in the political system doing good things. However, some of us moved on, finding politics ineffective and feeling we do not have enough time to make the gradual shift to "liberty consciousness" - that the hammer is coming down and we need to put "Plan B" into effect. For us, that means getting as near to 100% self reliant as possible, and in a way that we can help others get there a LOT faster than we did.
I am heartened by Rand's efforts last night, and if he seems to be getting anywhere we may get back into politics, but at this point we are trying to be MORE effective, not "giving up."

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

While we are at it...

While we are at it, we should petition rain not to fall on sunny days, cold weather not to freeze, grass not to grow to tall, and old age not to befall us.

Any of these petitions will have just as much success.

We all know how responsive governments are to petitions begging them not to do what is in their nature.

Just as kindly asking the killer not to kill, the rapist not to rape, and the thief not to steal, the state will not be persuaded to do that which is against it's nature by a petition.

Are you familiar with the story of the Scorpion and the Frog?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Grrrrrrr

So let the dems ROAR with cheer while you and some others remain silent.

If this petition or other activism does not work in the end, so be it. Let it NOT be said that I did nothing!

I understand being frustrated from getting kicked to the curb, but Josh, what in the hell has happened to you lately?

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

"but Josh, what in the hell has happened to you lately?"

What has happened to me lately?

I have always doubted the effectiveness of petitions.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Fair enough.

So toughen up, suck it in, and try a few more times.

Come on Josh, I need you to hang in there like you did before the election. Whether you think it paid off or not, we kicked some serious a$$.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I'm all for activism, and educating...

I just don't think petitions are an effective form of activism.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Hypothetical:

If 70% of a population agreed with a petition but nobody participates, 30% takes an easy win.

So much for 'educating' when action is not taken.

Once again: Grrrrrr

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

The point I'm making is...

don't get your hopes up, government is not going to stop doing anything just because you ask it not to.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

double post

double post

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Petitions do have educational value

Many people will not even be aware that a problem exists, unless someone passes them a petition and explains what's going on. I entirely agree with you that petitions likely have no effect on the politician who receives them -- but they do affect the people who read and sign them, educating and "activating" them to the problem.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Ros...

I agree, it can be educational.

The point I was making is that he shouldn't expect a petition to change any minds in government.

I would still say there are my much more effective means of education, especially means that don't rely on a solution that will not work.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Mike Kelly Rep of PA

Mike Kelly Rep of PA is the one who is reaching out to have this signed. It is bad enough that we do not have enough Liberty folks in offices. When one DOES speak up, it is in OUR best interest to support it/him/her.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

It takes so little of your time though.

I agree, they aren't much use these days but they can get people talking.. that could be a good thing.

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✍ sign now ✍

Sorry but...

the time for petitioning is over.

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Why do have to rain on the parade Vince?

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Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That'll teach you to keep your mouth shut. Hemingway

the time for parades is over.

don't you get it?

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

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No, I don't get it

If someone else wants to petition and have a parade let them have it, and I don't get why everyone else thinks their solution is better than so and so's solution.

Ya know, live and let live... we should all be experts there.

As far as "getting it," everyone here thinks they "get it" better than the next person, but I am not sure everyone "gets it" as well as they seem to think they do, and since I am humble I will include myself in that group because I don't get why people cannot live and let live.

Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That'll teach you to keep your mouth shut. Hemingway

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Whats going on here?

Oh my, what a great flyer PAF ;)

I will print tomorrow, not by a printer today.

Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That'll teach you to keep your mouth shut. Hemingway

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Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

How about a youtube link?

:D

Small Arms Treaty YouTube :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjRGfAbNGPs

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

** For those at work right now **

Can you please print this out and handout to your coworkers? Business owners, place these on a counter top or board.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul