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The Daily Paul Is NOT What It Used To Be; There Is NO Interest In Activism Or Reclaiming Our Republic.

1. Little to no Activism. When I and/or others ask for help [and take the time to create/publish material], it is more than typically ignored. There is much banter, but little Activism and/or Bumps to spread the messages and keep the momentum moving forward.

2. DailyPaul will typically front page articles (news, gossip, fun, etc.) but not material related to Activism and/or Public Events.

3. You scream that Ron Paul was ignored, but when the opportunity arises for you to be heard and make a difference, little/no participation is acted upon.

I am disappointed with many of you who talk a good game, but do little to make a difference :-(

You can disagree or vote me down, but it means nothing, I am stating it as I witness it.

Edit: Here is a perfect start http://www.dailypaul.com/277071/un-small-arms-treaty-peititi...

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I think we need a little reminder

about the potential of the movement from good ol' youtube.


When the time comes, you can be sure that the people will gather when they are needed most. That time may be today, or tomorrow, a month away or sometime in the future. But in the meantime, don't lose hope, trust or faith.

We are out there, somewhere. And we will be needed.

I believe in the freedom to be what we choose to be.

Thank you for that :-)

I am among a core group of people who see a bigger picture. It is not one single issue, but many. What Rand did was amazing, and I am proud of him [though there are some troubling holes]. At the same time, ATT is less than 2 weeks away, and without 2nd, whatever comes of Rand's filibuster can potentially be moot.

We are all needed now. This thread has nothing to do with me, or a single position. It has to do with preserving what little we have left. And the scope is large.

That video was, and still is, heart-lifting :-)

Josie The Outlaw http://www.josietheoutlaw.com/

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

We need a beach head...

If we could rally the entire DP membership to the cause of just ONE constitutional sheriff (not a lip-servicer... and actual constitutionalist) - we would have established a beach head in this republic and will have done more for liberty than we have done in the last 20 years combined.

WHY do DP members seem so content to ignore the ONE THING THAT COULD RESTORE THEIR LIBERTY/RIGHTS just by getting ONE GUY/GAL elected in some po-dunk county?

If you believe in the constitution - getting a constitutional sheriff elected should be PRIORITY one. Why are people wasting so much time trying to get representatives/senators elected?


Liberty is impossible when you are controlled, robbed and exploited by a government based on force. And sadly even when it was first setup it was still a government of force. Alien and sedition act and the whiskey rebellion are just two proofs of that fact.
Voluntaryism is the path to true freedom.

yesterday as i walked to work

yesterday as i walked to work i handed out 8 sheets of paper with a few lines written on them, directing them to the youtube channel of StormCloudsGathering. Did you watch the video about the internment and resettlement army pdf documents ??

just write the title of the video and below it write the youtube channel. hand these out to strangers.

You better start doing something instead of bitching to me about how no one is doing anything. if you have a plan, i understand, announce your plan to us, and those in the area will take a day off their lives and do what you plan.

you have friends, don't you? better yet, borrow your friend for a few hours to educate the masses.

we are no longer geared towards a candidate. now we have many different issues on the table. Do what your heart tells you.




You are not entirely incorrect. I have been doing more in activism and have posted threads about it and have gotten little replies.

I pretty much use DP as a news source now but once the primaries start back up and Rand is on the docket we should see another resurgence.


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Oh brother, what are you

Oh brother, what are you talking about? You have been here under 2 years (and nothing wrong with that in itself). Are you telling us that the good old days of DP were within the last 2 years????? I can tell you that back in 07 there was a slightly different feeling on this board, and some real heartfelt grit as some 'activits' invented the R3VOLution signs and other innovated money bombs, blimps, google Ron Paul, and blew up polls and comment sections all the while being accused of being 7 pimple faced guys in mom's basement. Without knowing there would be any ROI, any growth of a movement, or even anyone else out there who would listen, people on here talked about anything and everything and because of that banter, I believe, people became involved, innovated things, spread the word, and in so doing were and are activists. It takes all kinds so quit chiding people for however they choose to express themselves. If you have good ideas and a good way of expressing yourself and motivating others you will get your ideas across and convince others to join you. The r3VOLution is alive and well. It also settled down a tad between the RP campaigns but that was a time for reflection and planning. Also for people to get active locally. Remember this site is also a good outlet for freedom people to just connect and share with like minded people about many topics. Who said it always has to be a super charged activits machine?

I didn't mention in my post

I didn't mention in my post above another point. When I first came to DP I did so in search of information about Ron Paul. At the time I found out he was running in 07, I became addicted to reading and watching anything RP and was scouring DIGG to fuel my habit. I was led to this site before DIGG banned DP and then changed their algorithm to ban RP news. I came here for RP news and info and then began enjoying the alternative news and info discussed here by like minded people - I think the honest dissemination of a variety of info and viewpoints kept me coming back. I began to come here to get news in general about politics and the economy. I also began frequenting LRC. I never expected either site to focus on activism. Honestly, I never came here for activism related efforts, at the time it only was a pipedream that we could have any influence or ever connect with other liberty people, though activism efforts were naturally spawned on this site as a result of coming together here, as I alluded to in the post above. I don't believe this ever was an activism focused site and if ever it tried to be only that it would probably lose its mojo. Nystrom has done an amazing job stewarding this thing to be a very cool site. I am continually amazed by his patience and vision. So just as you lament the focus away from activism, some of us could get frustrated that it doesn't completely focus on RP news. But, that would be silly because it is what users make it, and its all good.

I do not see that at all.

Each of us sees things from a different perspective.

My family began telling people the truth about the Federal Reserve, LRS (Legal Ripoff System) aka Internal Revenue "Serve Us", etc. in about 1977. We lost everything we had. The rate of the progress of awareness went from zero to 60 in about 35 years (it all takes time [it has to move bottom up, local community to local community). Lots of patience is required.

Nothing works like we want it to (I sometimes get pretty frustrated). Not only that; we all have to live day-to-day life (not everybody wants to talk politics all the time). I try to put any matter related to politics aside from time to time.

Like any worthwhile undertaking, The Daily Paul has its periods of stagnation. A troublemaker or two stop in once in awhile. DP has to put up with intelligent idiots who try to confuse the bugeeses out of people (especially newcomers); there discredit our cause. Some poor souls are so shallow and dumb!

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Nature appears pretty inflexible on the rules. One of the better grassroots ideas that has never been realized is building a libertarian television network. The fact of the matter is that America loves to watch TV. If one wants to spread more ideas one must market to where the audience is. Create a television network or advertise more on existing television networks. I like the former because corporations running ads on a libertarian television network to pay for spreading the message of liberty is market justice.

My thoughts

I've only been a part of the Daily Paul for a little under a year. I started visiting the site late spring/early summer. It was primary season coming up on a national election (in which Ron Paul was at that point running). Enthusiasm was easy to generate because we were all trying to advance Ron's presidential run. Even as we got closer to November we started to split, the Gary Johnsons vs. write-ins vs. non-voters, etc, each person advocating liberty as they saw fit.

Several months later, we don't necessarily have a unifying mission like we did when RP was running for president. It doesn't necessarily mean people have stopped being active. But perhaps they are getting involved in different ways. Personally, I've become involved with my local party and am starting a group on my campus. There are also a lot of groups that are promoting the ideas of Liberty via social media.

Just my 2 cents...not sure if its 100% accurate but this has been my observation during my short time here.

I like that.

I started during the 2008 campaign. ...The mega-enthusiasm sort of died after that. But as far as I'm concerned, DP's function is the same. ...Education & support.

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Is about leading. While I value your criticism.. would you mind offering some solutions to your grievances?

And believe me.. I feel you 100%. I have posted numerous threads trying to rally our troops to anything that advances out ideals and cause.

What our movement needs is real leadership. Until then, we are herding cats. Although I may be voted down, I still have to point out that in order for us to achieve our goals we sure as hell better have good leaders, advocates and volunteers.

Where I honestly saw Ron Paul fail was his inability to lead. Ron is a philosophical man. The only way he was going to reach POTUS is if the country woke up and supported him. He refused to change his ways.. and kudos to him for it.

The thing is, you must lead, to win.

What I see in Rand is his desire to actually win. Being strategic. Picking the right battles.

I have found the best leader of our movement and I vow to support Rand in 15/16.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Nobody is politically involved anymore.

Nobody is paying attention to government anymore.

Nobody is watching c-span anymore.

Nobody is tweeting political information to their friends anymore.

No new people post comments or threads anymore.

Nobody even knows where Rand has been!

Today was just another day, another sad slow lonely day, on Daily Paul.

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"Nobody even knows where Rand

"Nobody even knows where Rand has been!"

You mighta spoke too soon on that one =P

How do you think the

How do you think the Minutemen felt? The Fathers of the American Revolution and the Patriots who fought for the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence composed about 2% of the population.

We're the minority...always have been.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.



Not you, zoo dude. Tim dude.

Replied to wrong comment woops.

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I completely disagree. Look

I completely disagree. Look how many people are on the DP right now.

What I find quite amazing is the energy level here, given the time and situation we're all in. Some members are acting as if it's 2015, and have been doing their best to promote Rand Paul. Some have been doing their best to bash him.

Some members are taking a break from politics after what happened the last time around. Some members are posting alternative ideas/thoughts/information that do not exactly pertain to the Liberty Movement, but they keep things interesting...we have a long time to go until 2016.

Until then, enjoy the multitude of thoughts and ideas posted here...it's called FREEDOM, and it's a very big, thick pot of soup.

If you don't like it, don't eat!

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.


but I must agree to part of this post..

What we lack is leadership.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul


We are free to individually choose a leader, in any way we see fit. We are looking for the next Ron Paul, but I don't think that Christ-like figure will resurrect. Not before start of April at least :)

Besides that, we can't seem to agree on one leader - Maybe we should accept multiple leader or no leader at all?

Even Greenland knows what's going on!

my fear..

After going through the 08 campaign.. I do not want our movement to get hijacked again. That is why I believe we need some leaders to claim us.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Hijacked because we didn't have a leader?

More like the leaders hijacked us.

We said: "OK. The professionals are here, hired by the best. We can just do what they say and it will work out!"

Instead of blimps and homemade signs we got form letters and bad spokesmen. Beware the leaders.

The Americans beat the British, (so the history book said) because we hid behind trees and fought like indians instead of lining up in tidy, red rows.


My subscription lapsed (not sure why) but have not bothered to renew my subscription just yet.

Seems the site is stuck in a lot of conspiracy stuff and pretty far out ideas (some of which are still interesting) which can be a little negative.

I miss when this site was full of positive, constructive ideas to spread liberty and solid arguments against the push of socialism.

I will re-subscribe soon even if the above changes don't happen as I still like some of the content and want to support MN (who has a lot of good ideas) but I am in no rush at the moment.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

No one was responding to your U.N. petition thread, so...

...you got mad and decided to guilt people into supporting it by lashing out at and shaming everyone, including the owner of this site, for not measuring up to your standard of activism?


It is each individuals choice to do what they choose. I did not specifially point a finger toward any one person.

But yes, I am blunt. The point of this thread was to stir 'activism'. It is interesting that activism is pointless/useless, unless, of course, if/when others do the actual work.

Josie The Outlaw http://www.josietheoutlaw.com/

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

If you don't think you pointed a finger toward any one person...

...perhaps you should re-read your #2.

As to your general complaint about little to no activism by people here, you are either presumptuous, dismissive of the activism of others, or upset that they weren't supporting YOUR pet project.

Since there are all kinds of activism/activists here, and judging from your self-promotion of your U.N. petition thread and the timing of this post after you self-bumped your U.N. petition thread and no one responded, it seems a safe bet that your beef is likely about the latter.

Consider that the lack of response to that thread could simply have been because people were occupied on other threads. It does not mean that everyone is disinterested in activism, and may not even mean they were disinterested in your particular cause, either, for that matter. It is just going to happen sometimes when some threads slip off the active topic list.

If your thread did drop off the list for lack of interest, realize that lashing out at others and being dismissive of their activism is perhaps not the best way to garner support for your cause.


you are right.

God forgives always. Man forgives sometimes. But Nature never forgives.

Glad you got that off your chest

Ok, so, what united steps can be taken to reclaim our Republic?

Personally I’m not sure what steps to take at the moment.

I’m still learning what dots to connect.

One recent dot I just learned about is the UN Treaties.

Something I hadn't given thought to before and how much it affects individual States.

I never imagined a UN Treaty would have the power to override a US State’s choice.

So, Treaties the US made with the UN is something I’ll have to learn more about.

If I don’t have an understanding of the agreements made with other countries that compromise the basics of our Republic, how will we know which actions to take, individually or united, to make successful progress in reclaiming our Republic?


Your error is believing that petitions amount to something. Our Founders sent the 'Olive Branch' petition and how well did that work out? What worked were their Declarations: the Declaration & Resolves of Oct 14, 1774, the Declaration of Taking Up Arms July 6, 1775, until finally the DoI and it's these Declarations that did more for the effort than any petition ever could as they united and moved the inhabitants into action. But today we're not fighting a king across a pond but an a warty toad in a swamp!
The war is coming. No petition or even declaration will stop it. Our government has been usurped and the most we can do is prepare, and most importantly, learn our history, expound on our founding principles and preserve our founding documents. People may be loathe to understand this, but the murder of Al-Aulaki was the 'shot heard round the world' as it gave the current empire the right to kill any American, anywhere, any time and annihilated our Constitution.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison