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Hey Eric Holder, what about "non-weaponized" drones to "spy" on Americans?

Eric Holder responded to Rand Paul's filibuster with this letter:

Dear Senator Paul:

It has come to my attention that you have now asked an additional question: "Does the President have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil?" The answer to that question is no.


Eric Holder

Here's an image of that letter.

Now I'm curious, what about "non-weaponized" drones to "spy" on Americans?

It seems the letter from Holder could be interpreted by the administration that they CAN use "non-weaponized" drones to "spy" on Americans without a warrant.


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I really don't need anymore answers..

I've seen enough.

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Argus and the Utah data center will provide total surveillance.

You can bet they will use the drones the same way they are going to use the Utah Data Center (What is the UDC? Salt Lake TV video: http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=22705217) to collect information unconstitutionally and then correlate that info retroactively when someone in America hits their radar screen as opposing this very tyranny or any other things they don't like, say like talking to the "wrong" people or visiting the "wrong" websites, while contributing to the "wrong" causes, all packaged nicely as you will see. Though they will call those constitutionally protected actions what they want. "Imminent Combat comes to mind."

I am not sure if you have heard of the Argus drone? This is the key. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezKgbmiQzvQ).

All you have to do is time and date correlate the Argus info to the Utah data center and you could watch all activity and cross check that with all electronic communications and transactions for total surveillance.

How does that make you feel. This is not far away, from what I can determine if not here already in smaller scale.

Have any of you thought about this?

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This is an important question (imo) and one I've "been itching" to see included with Rand's filibuster...

I don't want to see any drones of any type flying over the USA! As far as that goes, I don't want to see them flying over other countries, either--for any reason!

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It is an extremely important question and should be addressed...

I was trying to find links to news articles where drones have already been deployed here in the US for police/military operations. If anyone has any, please share. I know of that one guy from ND.

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One step at a time.

Rand now has national attention on the issue - and with bi-partisan support of THE PEOPLE. Slippery slopes work both ways!

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Great Question Robhino

And what about people who are not on American soil?

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

And also...

Does "walking to combat" or "talking about combat" imply "engaging in combat"?

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So define "engaged in combat," and even then.... the answer should still be no.

And while we are at it Mr. Holder, what about American citizens overseas? What about the innocent Pakistan women and children? What about non American citizens on American soil?

The real question should be; does the President have the authority to use drones on anyone, anywhere in this world at any time?

And in my humble opinion the answer should be no.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
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