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Rush is going to bat for Rand right now, calling out "neocons"


Yesterday was the first day I listened to him , in order to hear the Rand interview. Jack Hunter just tipped me off that Rush is still defending Rand against the old guard. He is allowing "our" people to call in.

The world is upside down.

The end.

Edit: I dislike Rush as much as the next guy. But the fact that people on here literally say they would rather people not get the message at all than for them to find out about it from X, Y, or Z is mind blowing. It's almost as if you don't want the movement to grow, insane.

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Maybe Rush "woke up".

Maybe Rush "woke up". I know I know...not likely. But I'm confused at all the support Rand is getting from the likes of the Fox News Republicans. Is it possible we are experiencing a mass awakening.

One can dream.

Rush has 20 million listeners

at least he did 4 years ago when I used to listen to him. If he mentions Rand on his program in a positive light it can only be a good thing. Some may even do a web search on Rand, find the DP, and get some real truth on the government.

Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe

Rush better be careful

Wake people up too much and they will stop listening altogether.

The constant pressure is working

It is a long game with a long way to go but the tide is turning in our favour.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

The message is always more important than the messenger!


"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

I hereby openeth the door and

I hereby openeth the door and let them all in ... That ole geezer who couldn't fly a plane (and his little lakey who would bomb the rest of the world today, and tomorrow invite all the tens of millions of refugees here and give them amnesty). Bill Kristol, David Frum, DICK Morris, (and I know I'm leaving a lot of people out here) ... They'll all make great waiters at the Inauguration Party and the rest will make a great clean up crew afterwards.(Well, we'll just have to make sure nobody at the party takes off their shoes with Dick around.)


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People are waking up.

Rand and Company yesterday pulled off the most brilliantly orchestrated PR campaign for Lady Liberty and got the worlds attention.

Trying to wake people up from their brainwashing and conditioning about perpetual wars and loss of civil liberties.

Reforming one neocon at a time.

Good for Rush sticking up for him.

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.


Wish I could extra +1 your edit as well.

Eric Hoffer

if you can't beat em, co op them

Look how well they marginalized/alienated/maligned the "God Father of the Tea Party" Ron Paul. Control the message and you control the movement. Rally behind Rand, get him on the ballot in 2016, don't allow them to separate your message from the movement again.

They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds. -mexican proverb

Up vote this if you believe

Up vote this if you believe in spreading the word of liberty regardless of the messeger. The message iis what is import, not the messenger..

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

I am concerned that so many here are falling for this...

It seems the "Think tank sponsored, controlled opposition neocon talk radio propagandist demagogues" are actually starting to convince even the most skeptical of the electorate. Mainly, us....

Every other day now there are posts like "OMG Hannity is coming over to our side" because he mentioned the Constitution a couple of times (or 100 times) or, "OMG did you hear what LEVIN said today"? Because he was bashing Karl Rove......I'm telling you this is scripted. I can feel it in my bones- I've been an avid listener of neocon talk radio propagandists for the better part of the last decade and I can just smell it in the air they are setting something up for the future.

Don't think they just ad-lib everything they say, these guys are bought and paid for 100 times over. And no, not just from "ad-revenue". From government sponsored think tanks. They are the controlled opposition. And I've been slowly witnessing a shift here at the DP over to the dark side, mark my words, once they position themselves as the new "defenders of liberty and freedom" they will control the narrative, remember they've got a bigger pulpit than anyone else. You honestly think that kind of power is just going to be left alone unmolested?

They will fool a LOT of people, as they have already done. But they can't fool all of the people all of the time (isn't that a bob marley lyric?) Prepare to be backstabbed and Debra Medina'd in the future. And prepare for plenty of newspeak as well- it's going to get sad/interesting.

"I am Troll fighter, number one"



Agreed, and apparently part of the 'new narrative' is

"on American soil"

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Why are you opposed to people

Why are you opposed to people discussing freedom? Liberals joined Rand, but we all know we certainly don't agree with them on most issues. Are they also "fooling" us? Or maybe, just maybe, it's GOOD to have ANYONE spread the word of freedom, as Ron Paul has been doing for 30 plus years.. Paul welcomed ANYONE who wanted to listen and help out, even if it was just on one issue..

Why are you opposed to that??

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Those of you who are a part of this since 2007 and before...

Remember how the first "Tea Party" demonstrations were filled with Ron Paul supporters and libertarians, and then suddenly the mainstream got a hold of them and transformed them into Michele Bachman/ Sarah Palin/ FOX News fests???

Of course its great for the message to get out, but we should also stand vigilant that the message is not twisted, distorted, edited, or corrupted. Which is exactly what is about to happen if we let it.

We are "winning" in one sense, but as more people come into the flock there is always the opportunity for us (and the message of liberty) to get diluted. This is quite frankly plan B for statists:

"If you can't beat them, join them... then you beat them from the inside..."


I remember. We held a protest for the FIRST bank bailout - the Bush bailout. 8 of us showed up for that "Tea Party." Then The Official Boise Tea Party held their first event. As we were walking up, my husband just started shaking his head. Big stage, banners, set of speakers like a rock concert, mass produced literature... He just kept saying "Who paid for this? This is not us." And sure enough, at the State Central Committee meeting a year later, the Lt. Governor reassured all the county chairmen that the Tea Party had been taken over, they were no longer a problem. And a half dozen "Ron Paul" chairmen sat there and said nothing. I had a shit fit and left.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Its GREAT when people carry the message of freedom

But when you wield the kind of power these guy's do, and if you're gaining people's trust for sinister reasons- then it very well could turn out to be a bad thing. Remember, the narrative is mainly scripted. It isn't just a bunch of guy's who "magically" have the same opinion. And also happen to DOMINATE the A.M radio airwaves...

When you wield that kind of power, I am CERTAIN you get visited by "men in suits". This is the reason many people believe that Alex Jones has been compromised, because his audience got too big and now he's pretty much in bed with Drudge/WND. (Don't know if he's been compromised but I can appreciate the skepticism)

Take Glenn Beck for example. Literally since 2008-2009 the guy has been PREACHING almost ALL of Ron Paul's philosophy. At first I was like "Hell ya, he'll spread the message of freedom" And he does. But with a Twist. You see it's that "Twist" that "end game" they are trying to distract people from. They focus SOLELY on OBAMA, as if he's the reason for everything and the "Buck stops with him" But it doesn't. The President has very little power these days, the guy reads a speech prepared by someone else on a teleprompter, how disingenuous can you get? and as POTUS no less?

Brian, you are on just about every Glenn Beck post defending the guy. If you trust him and that is how you feel then knock yourself out. We can agree to disagree- but I trust them about as far as I can throw a refrigerator, Simply because I have listened and witnessed the "transition" over the years. And how they've hijacked the message without any shame whatsoever- all i can say is. Keep a watchful eye and look for the diversions cause there will be many. Peace.

"I am Troll fighter, number one"




As the subject says.

Eric Hoffer

Wasn't the point of Rand

Wasn't the point of Rand endorsing Romney, voting for sanctions, working with McConnell, etc. all part of his strategy to convince these "think tanks" that he was not his fathers son and that he was an acceptable "Republican"

I see where you're coming from

And that's a tough one. I am not sure what Rand's motives are. Either he's completely sold out to the establishment and he's sorta a "bridge gapper" if you will- yet another wing (liberty wing) of the same corrupt bird, to misdirect people etc etc. Or he has some genius plan to infiltrate and then really shake things up. The latter is hard for me to believe, even though Ron Paul raised/groomed him. Simply because our Government and Shadow Government are so maniacal and corrupt, they would simply assassinate Rand if he had too much power and was going to use it to go after the Elite/central banks/MIC etc etc. And he's too smart to NOT know that....

So that's a tough one man. Time will tell i guess...

"I am Troll fighter, number one"



You can bet your sweet bippy

That Rush has seen the tide swing and he doesn't want to get swept away and drown in a sea of irrelevance.

I have a "friend" on facebook named Gregory Hilton (yes, of that Hilton family) whose only "job" is (apparently) to shill for the neocon agenda. He is scratching and clawing trying to hang onto his previous positions ("We would never haven gotten that evil mastermind Anwar al-Awlaki and his evil 16 year old son without drones!"), even as the majority of his followers see the light and stand by Rand on this. It's truly amazing to see.

I heard this yesterday and today too

It was odd how he is spot on with, what I believe at least, rand is trying to do by incrementally shift the mindset of the average republican mindset. However, still using terms like isolationist when describing Ron. Yesterday he went on a tangent then about marriage of the old guard mindset....so, I think these guys are trying to be on the edge of the shift so they can 1. Still be relevant and 2. Say they saw this coming and were of this mindset "from the beginning stages" or something. But as the op stated, as long as there is a continued movement towards the liberty mindset that is the I important thing.


YYZ...I'll save for the nightly jam session...

perhaps now a little... Xanadu going out by request to Rand and Ron (in the Great White North, eh!)


"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."


There is no duration defined in the Oath

would it be too premature to state that

Rand2016 POTUS race has 'officially' begun??

can definitely 'feel' the shift, even among movement neocons...

calm before the storm, or ride the surf and see where it lands??

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul


I'm getting e-mail from Rand w/ RAND20116 across the top of it.

Don't sell yourselves short

Picture a brass band playing and thousands of people singing "One peee-pulllllll, one nay-shunnnnnnn, one Suuuuuuun Kiiiiiing."

So what your saying is...

He's calling himself out?

All by design

Rand is the chosen one numbskulls. All of the talking heads on the right will have to promote him as Big Gov. fails. He is being positioned as the grand All-American alternative. The Constitutionalist. When all of your property and resources have been destroyed by what is coming under Obama how exactly will Rand Paul's ideas help the working man? Tell me how. I would sincerely like to know.


What would you advise to do? Lamenting for the sake of lamenting is anti-productive.


Freedom - Peace - Prosperity

Telling the truth

is not lamenting. Trying to get well intentioned people's heads firmly out of the sand is rather quite productive.

Why would "they" want a

Why would "they" want a Constitutionalist to take over after "they" crash the economy? Why not stick with a fascist?