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Rand Paul Did More Damage to TPTB Than You Can Possibly Imagine

In the game of psychological warfare, and the dollar value involved, I'd say the damage estimates in terms of dollars and cents is about $100 billion.


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Ron told us on June 7th that he couldn't win the nomination

That night Rand endorsed Romney, the Republican nominee, for the general election. You don't guard your teammate on the basketball court because you thought he was a bad pick for team captain. You work with him despite your differences to overcome the opposition.

The popular narrative on the DP is that Ron was going to win no matter what until Rand "stabbed his dad in the back" but that simply isn't true. Ron Paul had barely over half the delegates needed to win the nomination and he told us that in an email and a private youtube video that was posted on the DP.

Rand Paul did the right thing, and in the end it didn't mean a damn thing. Get over it and spend your time slandering people who actually deserve it instead of slandering people within the movement you believe in.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

I believe you are

mistaken. The rules were changed...at the RNC convention in Tampa... Going in to the convention, a plurality in 5 states was needed to be nominated from the floor. RP had 5 states and Puerto Rico. A vote (fraudulently conducted as the ayes did not clearly have it) changed that to 8.

Besides that they voted to bind each state delegate to vote for the candidate who won the primary and whom they had pledged, and not be able to change(some states were unbound and could change-some did). This is no longer grass roots up. It is top down and it is WRONG!

Do not forget this lesson. Keep working to right this system which has become so corrupt. We need to get back to- of the people, by the people and for the people.

Just for the record, since I

Just for the record, since I was a Delegate at the Convention in Tampa, checking the nominating signature forms with Drew Ivers and other Paul Delegates. It was 5 states and the Virgin Islands.

Don't you get it...Ron Paul

Ron Paul was never going to win. They were never going to let him win. I'm certain Ron was quite aware of this.

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That's true and I agree it was effed up

However, Rand Paul didn't "stab his dad in the back" as so many people here see it.

The change still didn't change the rules for that convention, so RP technically should have been nominated and he wasn't. It's a damn shame

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

With sons like Rand

who needs enemies? I do think there is some blackmail or threats against Ron going on. They could frame anyone with anything. It's all a con.

We are allowed to use the

We are allowed to use the power of psychological perception too. It's more powerful when backed by truth.

Damage Assessment

Rand certainly made a lot of noise, he brought nationwide attention to the use of drones against American citizens.

But, if his goal was to stop the confirmation of Brennan, or get any meaningful concessions from the White House, then he did not succeed on that objective.

The confirmation went ahead, and Eric Holder gave an answer to a loaded question that he himself created.

Rand rubber stamped Holder's response and declared victory, re-framing the debate to whether an American is a "combatant" or not.

I don't think that would qualify as a success, if the objective was a concession on the part of the White House.

He was however successful in bringing attention to drone use on Americans.

But, he may have done a great disservice to the debate by allowing Holder to re-frame it, negating much of attention brought to the subject, giving those who were paying attention a false sense of resolution when he failed to take Holder to task on his response and declared victory.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com

"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

The goal was not to stop the

The goal was not to stop the confirmation nor had much to do with it.
The only thing that matters now is the "Perception" the "Majority" of the people see it as, and what the Answer "NO" Means to Them. No one on TV will dig into any deeper meaning, because it would hang them with their own words going into it any further. Don't you play three level chess?

I believe

you are right on.

Karl Rove's Jaguar in Layers of Cellophane Video

"WASHINGTON D.C. -- Karl Rove fell victim to a classic office prank. Some of his "friends" wrapped his Jaguar in layers of cellophane as a going away present. Bald eagle stuffed animals were left to guard the trunk.

Karl Rove, one of President Bush's top advisors, recently announced his resignation. This is Rove's last week on the job."

Rove Wrapped Up.
Who Pimped Karl Roves Ride?



What on earth is TPTB?

No train to Stockholm.

It Means

The Powers That Be


Proof you are right


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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Karl Rove, "The Architect",

Karl Rove, "The Architect", looks completely bludgeoned and beaten in that clip.

Senator Rand Paul opened up the can of worms. Now let's see what happens.

"Karl Rove, "The Architect", looks completely bludgeoned and

in that clip."

He probably got scraped up from running those wheelbarrows full of money to Rands bank at breakneck speeds.

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Again, shows how smart Rand

Again, shows how smart Rand is. He gets paid by Rove to advance our cause. :)

Or maybe it is just one scumbag

recognizing another and running to support him. It takes one to know one. Advancing illegal immigration is hardly "our cause". At least, it certainly isn't mine.

If Rand decided to nuke the world

you guys would say his decision is part of his secret agenda to bring liberty to all.

It's not a secret agenda

It's not a secret agenda dork. Everyone knows he's playing politics. It's what everyone in DC does and it's no secret. He's being lauded by establishment BECAUSE of his political skillz. Establishment people respect savvy, not ideology. They don't care what positions he takes, so long as he's good at taking them. Lucky for us, he's very good at the game which is nothing but good news for us.

You are right.

yeah.... lol. totally dorky

yeah.... lol. totally dorky pic post. It should have a cat in the background. :)

Anyway, glad you agree about Rand and yourself. Look forward to working with you on the Rand 2016 campaign. :)

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Well dducks...

It looks like you have 2 more adjectives to add to your moniker. I have a few new ones as of recently also. It is so stupid you cannot just get on board with RAND PAUL 2016! you dork. These 2 comments from you are some of the only ones by you I just cant upvote lol.

Im sorry you are not intelligent enough

to see what rand is doing, but please quit trashing the people that are. Rand is beating them at their own game. You can't hit them head on and expect to get anywhere when they have this much grip on everything.

What rand is doing is simply setting traps and at the same time exposing these people to the masses, alot of people are still asleep. It took them years to grab as much power as they have, and its going to take time and tenacity to undo what we have let get out of control. Did you think being an insider Rand would just go in there and do what Ron did?? Ron changed nothing on the hill, but changed the minds of alot of peoples thinking. Now rand is on inside making waves! Did you really think that Ron and Rand didnt agree to make a worthless endorsement to romney? If you cant see that was ploy?

Before you call out rand of being a controlled opposition, ask yourself what would he have to gain?? what would the establishment gain by exposing themselves ?

btw romney said from beginning of election cycle that he would endorse the gop nominee no matter who it was!

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves...the land of liberty needs a regime change!

You are right.

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If that is the case

 I'm with Stupid stupid.gif


I am just going to have to study a little harder to figure out this secret agenda everyone is talking about.

I did upvote you, but you had a downvote already. lol.

There is no secret agenda. He

There is no secret agenda. He has been forthright about everything he has said and done. You don't have to like or agree with him but stop smearing him when he does us a good one.

Nobody smeared him here.

The topic was about bewilderment that some think everything he does is some secret plan to bring liberty to all. I suppose they have to think it's secret because on face value, there is much he does that is antithetical to liberty.


Your post was good. You could have said it without being abusive!