Do you still want a peaceful Revolution?
Submitted by Samuel Adams on Sun, 01/20/2008 - 14:37Go right ahead. That's why we're being ignored. When is it going to be time to stop "turning the other cheek" - after the election?
Patrick Henry, I'm sure, is proud of all of you.
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Our Best Voice are the Money Bombs - Let's do it again!
If you are feeling frustrated vote with your wallet tonight at midnight or first thing tomorrow.
Money Bombs have been the most effective demonstration of our power and our passion. We can buy back our freedom.
More important than running the perfect campaign, having an error free and fraud free election, an unbiased media, or a free thinking populace is our dedication to spreading the wisdom of liberty and speaking with one voice.
We have another (perhaps the last) chance in this campaign to come together and send a united message for liberty.
Dig as deep as you can. Get your friends and family to contribute any amount. But most importantly participate!
A successful money bomb in the face of some frustrating primaries and a hostile media will speak stronger than ever.
Let's continue to confound the world and demonstrate our dedication to liberty.
Let's make the Free at Last Money Bomb a shot across the bow of continued tyranny and unaccountable government in this country!
God bless everyone one of you...Go forth and be heard!
By the way, we are a lobby
We are a huge, diversified lobby that is organized and driven. We are principled and our mainly populated by activists. Unlike other anti establishment movements we are only slightly infiltrated and our leader is a concept.
Someone is going to debate me on this? We already smacked Fox and didn't even try hard.
With non campaign moneys included we have put about $35,000,000 into this effort since April. We pick up 500 new Meetup members a day and are willing to use anything in the book to get the word out. We have groups in 30 other countries.
Our core message resonates with every human that walks this Earth.
Good God are you kidding me?!
You need help marketing freedom? What?! This is like selling air on the moon...everyone needs it and they need it now.
Anyone listens to this message and says..."Yes, I want that...Yes, I agree with that."
Last but not least, are we making an impact?
ABC
NBC
CBS
Fox
CNN
NPR
NYTimes
WPost
LATimes
and about 58 other major media outlets throughout the world are under orders to ignore us. When they do mention us it is to belittle us and attempt to associate us with every kook, fringe, wacko etc ever spawned.
In short, they are shi%$#ed terrified of us. We get absolutely CREAMED in 4 out of 5 primaries and, in the one where we came in second? We were beaten by the leader by a 4 to 1 ratio. What happens? Money keeps pouring in and we pick up another 500 workers a day.
Call it a presidential campaign if you will. It may look like a duck and sound like a duck, but this is about something far bigger than stickers debates and rallies. This a whole bunch of people who want the same damn thing and are willing to do what it takes to get it. Just wait for the political system to get it's ass kicked once the elections are over. If a congressman gets 17,000 GD emails will he pay attention? If we find, fund and elect any congressman or senator we want will they pay attention? Politicians listen to money and lots of warm bodies and we got plenty of both. This is millions and millions of people, folks. This is millions and millions of people who are unified for freedom. As usual, I like our odds.
You go home in November you have not been paying attention.
T
Unify
How was America Founded?
People left a place of tyranny for a place of freedom. They left everything and risked their life to find liberty.
They did not attack the establishment
Even in the American Revolution. The colonies declared themselves free and the the King attacked them for it. They were not radical extremists that went looking for a fight in order to bring about a revolution
If you didn't understand what Jeff just worte there.
Please keep reading it until you do.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~ Margaret Mead
Yes lets all go get arrested so we can't vote..
good plan. Lets all gather at a courthouse and light up joints and sing kumayah and get arrested in protest. What we need is one stupid futile act to paraphrase Animal House.
We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was
"legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary
was "illegal." ~Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from Birmingham Jail,"
Why We Can't Wait, 1963
"The American government creates 50,000 new laws each year, and over 2 million new regulations. Then we are told by the courts that 'Ignorance of the law is no excuse!'" -- Lorne Strider
my apologies to the readers
of this forum regarding the mis-spellings in my comment , i lost my eyeglassses .
In the old days before the
In the old days before the Emancipation, it was a crime, and a very serious crime at that, to teach any slave, under any circumstances, how to read. That was LAW in those times. Stop and ask yourself, why would it be against the law to teach a slave how to read ?
Unfortunately the slaves are watching TV today...
It is doing their thinking for them....much more efficient....
Not sure what
you mean to say . But violence is not the enswer.
Since the country is primarily comprised of socialists who prefer a socialist democracy bordering fascsim defined not but dictatorship but rather ideology.
First it is a must to educate and bring to unity the people of this nation to recoginze how wrong waht they have settle for really is. That always has proven to work
a cause for all to embrace.
Second.While voting still counts vote out the politicians who offend you by enacting policy contrary to the constitution or the detriment of our society .
Third.When voting no longer counts , LABOUR STRIKES are the answer. The rich and powerful as well as the politicians depend on us serfs for all essentials. Unions once very powerful brought GM to its knees despite the hired thugs and the interventionof the out of work DOUGHBOYS of www1 later fell the last hold out HENRY FORD (READ ABOUT THIS MAN )
He was very much for the things that we now experience. Study history SA. All of it not just 1776 vecause it can never be repeated . But the shaping of the industrial and political can and has been shaped continuosly by blue collar flu and other assorted means.
Violent force is never the answer unless employed in self defense then it is not defined violence at all , it is jsutified as self preservation.
RECAP.
Let us all work within the boundaries of the law and change this nation back to its former self by ousting the politicians that offend us out of office and we can only hope to do that by educating the nation about these traitors of the people by exposing them to the people foe what they are . Then once the people are awakened into rejoining the ideals of the true AMERICA it will be easy to bring her back into reality, at that time we will not be ignored any longer.
Soon i will be buying Ron Paul ads in the small town
newspapers in my area a couple of them anyway since i don`t yet know what it will cost but i figure i can afford two for a month . They won`t be front page but
i`m sure they will be seen .
Recruiting votes for Ron Paul restoring America
to the people.
"knowlege is power"-Francis
"knowlege is power"
-Francis Bacon
The better your knowledge, the deeper your education, the less you have to depend on the media to explain things to you as they would explain them to a not-too-bright child.
Look at it this way, the Paul revolution is ultimately about one's personal level of excellence. It is also very much about recognizing how much culture creates individual excellence or hopelessly degrades it.
We are living in a time when Culture is engineered to be both profit maximizing and personally degrading. The true revolt is to refuse to be degraded by the culture, by "the machine"...
We should seek to be the type of people that other people would look to for direction, and who would look to our values in order to emulate them.
If we are not worth emulating, what do we finally stand for ?
How can we be for peace
if we conduct ourselves any differently?
The people who want to take away our freedoms are about war, hatred, violence, polarization, death and suffering.
How could anyone in good conscience consider using "their" methods?
There are very few of these people who would imprison us. Very, very few. we outnumber them 10,000 to one.
I like our odds.
T
Unify
brace for impact!
money? you cant eat money.let the ,irs,gdp,fed,wallstreet-cia,banks fall It is our right to a revolution so our for fathers said, when it all falls we should stay peacefull!by no means get violent it gives the animales/druglords/poloticians/warmongers chicken hawks the right to control the population lets take our government back by mandate not violence .revolution is our right! judge jury exocutioner would be the very thing we are against we should hit these corperations accountable for the thieft.when the bottom drops out these people designed it so they are all prepared they have food stored,water do you?what would you do if electric went out?they have already gained total control of the media,wallstreet,gov all 3 branches so get food that stores my friend is this how russia fell?
I don't think he called for violence in his post.
Maybe he is talking about not allowing anymore,namby,pamby,bullshit,in the campaign anymore.That goes for official and grassroots....
Maybe he is tired of the current methods and wants to be more aggressive in (figuratively) fighting back against the snickering,platform stealing,evil bastards that will continue to pursue evil deeds ,once in office....
Calling him a "homegrown terrorist" goes beyond stupidity...
Answer: Yes
When we stop turning the other cheek, we become our enemy. The campaign of Ron Paul is merely a battle in this revolution. If Ron Paul loses, do you wave the white flag or do you take what was gained from this campaign and move forward from there? We cannot lose this country if we're still awake.
Are you some kind of a 'home
Are you some kind of a 'home grown' terrorist?
Don't give them a reason to crack down on us.
The revolution in the final
The revolution in the final analysis is a revolution in thinking, knowledge, real awareness of how power operates, and a high degree of accurate self knowledge.
1. If you don't know youself well, you cannot assess the world well, because you won't be able to distinguish what is "your stuff" and what is 'their stuff"....
2. You have to make it your business to know how the real power players operate. That means knowing things in detail, having your facts straight, and understanding how to assemble patters of information from multiple sources.
3. It also means you have to make a personal committment to Strong Thinking, move towards high quality education, read deeply and often, avoid infantalizing escapism like too much television or associating with mentally lazy or intellectually immature people... Weak Thinking is "feelgood" thinking by design. Strong Thinking is effortful, uncomfortable, and sometimes lonely...
4. It means you have to take a Proactive Stance towards many issues in your life, invest time in being informed, ask more of yourself than you have in the past, and be willing to feel foolish, make errors, have others point out your limits, and choose to do something about them.
5. It also means you won't accept wallowing in excuses, cheap talk, or dysfunctional family, social, or cultish life patterns. It means growing up. it means having the nerve to see things as they are. It means seeing the present as an investment in the future. It also means giving up a hell of a lot of self importance and quickie ego gratification fueled by chanting the latest slogan or popular theory of the minute.
6. It ultimately means having the depth of character that you can handle freedom. Most people are terrified of too much freedom and unconsciously cling to structures that giver them life structuring limitations. They prefer certainties and knowns and cliches and demagogues who comfort them with the most simplistic truths over the icy cold air of self direction. You gotta choose what it is you really want.
This is a dangerous and irresponsible post
and really has no place here. We are trying to elect Ron Paul, not follow some armed pied piper. I hope the moderator puts this to sleep.
If you wish to "kill for peace", I suggest you join the current administration which has been effectively doing that for some time. This is not Dr. Paul's philosophy or what most of us support him.
Calling for violence only further confirms the fringe nature of Dr. Paul's campaign to its detractors and for good reason. One has to be very suspicious of such people as I can attest to a variety of police agent provocateurs during the anti-Vietnam war period. Meetings planning simple demonstrations often had an individual who called for us to "get serous", "take it to them" or tried to rile us up to commit violence. Indeed, this tactic was successful at times and harmful to the message at hand.
I assume this poster is sincere, but if other campaigns wanted to further discredit Dr. Paul, this is sure one way to do it.
You want to plot a violent revolution? Do it on your own website.
We can drop the love from
We can drop the love from the revolution after the main election in November. Until then we need to try to do this peacefully. If we don't win in November then they will have shown us that violent revolution is the only way. Until November we need to still try to bring about revolution the peaceful way.
No, I disagree entirely with
No, I disagree entirely with that. This revolution will continue whether our man claims the Presidency or not. The time for violent revolution occurs when politicians don't heed we the people, and make it impossible to make our voices heard (censorship / fair elections etc.).
HASN"T THAT ALREADY HAPPENED?
RSK Well hasn't it? Just look at the MSM's complete and utter discontempt for Dr. Paul. Has he not been completely ignored and "not heard" by the MSM. How are we , his supporters, "the people" any different?
I'm glad we can show how
I'm glad we can show how seriously we take liberty. In the words of some politicians we will keep all OUR options on the table. However, it's we the American people's own fault that we got here (ignorance, apathy, neglect). So it doesn't immediately warrant bringing out the sledge hammer to fix the machine. We are in an information war, and I'm certain, given the passion I've seen of supporters, that this war of ideas will continue to be fought and won regardless of the presidential race. If needs be then we can weigh our last resort options, but right now we must continue with the far more powerful weapon - knowledge/information.
well
thanks to the Military Commissions Act 2006 and The Patriot Act "turning the other cheek" is the only thing we have left to do without ending up in the slammer forever. Hows that for intimidation and loss of Freedom. Keep fighting in a way that counts. Face it, a revolution will never look like the one of Patrick Henry's day. But the loss of not having one in times like these is all the same just too high of a price to pay. Canvas, talk, get off the couch everyone, and remember! Dr. Paul is a messenger! Be one too!
"...the most memorable concern of mankind
is the guts it takes to
face the sunlight again."-Charles Bukowski
Absolutely
Anyone who does not attempt peaceful means, with all their being, but just sits and waits for the violent means, is evil, and hates humanity. If you do not attempt peaceful means first, you have no right to resort to violent means later!
Edited for SP and grammar :)
Uh, yes
Wouldn't mind RP being more blunt with the other candidates and about the things they have said and represent.
But of course we want a peaceful revolution.
You some kind of provocateur?
I WANT a peaceful revolution, HOWEVER:
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy
I will be part of whatever type revolution the NEOCONS and NEOLIBS choose.
Spoken like a CIA or FBI Agent
Peace is our most powerful weapon and protection. It gives us the moral high ground. We must walk in the footsteps of Gandhi and Martin, that alone is the path to freedom. Inciting violence is the job of police agents and has been used throughout history as an excuse to crush political movements. Go preach your poison somewhere else. We are not buying here.
YEAH BUT THE NECONS....
RSK have no morals and certainly no highground. They are our enemy and are pure evil. They will use whatever means is within their arsenal including violence against American Citizens. These people will not stop at anything to implement their Globalist NWO. They have been moving this agenda forward toward globalization for a very, very long time. Long before your great-great-great-great grandparents were even born. In the end, peace ain't gonna get it! It's sad and unfortunate but true.
Non-violence
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Canvassing
Have you spent the last six months canvassing door-to-door? Don't consider this option again until you have knocked on 10,000 doors.
Quite frankly
I follow Dr. Paul and if he said to jump over the moon I would try. I trust NO ONE else at this time because he has been the only one who has been consistent in his message. Anyway, we are out numbered by uneducated people we must continue to wake people up only when the masses are awakened will we have the strength to go forward united.
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