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Do TROLLS just visit and selectively downvote all day?

...as I peruse old stuff, responses etc., to continue threads - I see all these mere (-1)'s; I re-read my posts, I know when I'm abrasive or blunt; but I also know when I'm in no way deserved of a down-vote on a great many things!

(-2) or (-6)'s I get it, I know when I aggravate or pick a fight...but normally, my stuff is usually pretty positive or of benefit; thought-provoking in this community...

I call deliberate sabotage; to discredit my words specifically - it's a billboard; kind of a message that reads "pass by this post, it's no good" ... downvotes with NO refutations/reasons really irritate me, so I suspect trolls...

Anyone else experiencing the same?



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You gotta love the DP :)

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Sir Nystrom of Somerville

Behave accordingly

are you really going to take

are you really going to take the up votes and down votes seriously?

lawrence

it doesn't offend me...

...because I know it is most often times without merit, hence; no arguments...

It's just a way to encourage OTHER passer-by's that "what is written here has been stamped no good by the DP community", which is a form of trolling....

Like I said we should have a meter

on how people vote. If not quantitative, then qualitative; pessismist-neutral-optimist, depending on the balance of votes the person gives.

I do.

I believe them to be an important reference for new DP users.

If new DP users are not "smart" enough to distinguish the bullshit from the truth yet, they may be swayed in to believing the bullshit just because it is getting more "positive" votes.

www.youtube.com/truefictions

I try to change people every day. Do You?

I agree 100%.

I would love to see some transparency in this aspect of the voting system and have it show who voted + or - on threads and comments.

Voting secrecy is a very subjective "value" that I have a hard time agreeing with.

For the record: I am very happy to use this website and in no way am I trying to tell it's owner what to do with it. My opinion is only one among many and I am happy to be able to share it with you.

www.youtube.com/truefictions

I try to change people every day. Do You?

I think we need to make voting transparent...

or get rid of it altogether.

This isn't a ballot box. If you can't stand by your position then you've got no business being on the internet trying to promote it.

At least some of these more informative posts with some pretty important information would ferret out the actual trolls if we could see who is voting for what.

What do these thread votes really mean?

If a thread exposes some new evil ...

And the title is direct ..,

Q. Does my "up" vote endorse the fight against the obvious new horrible evil scourge ? Or does my "up" vote indicate my opposition. to aforementioned topic : New Evil Scourge

WTF ?

There's the rub

Our accounts could track our voting history too

That way you can see the rating of the person and his average up vote/down vote (perhaps excluding self-votes). That said its very hard to resist down voting you when you ask that question. My inner 5 year old wants to be a troll.

I get downvoted on this point -- by trolls?

But if you are always going around downvoting that defines a troll. I should be able to go to your account page look at how you vote on average and then decide for myself whether you are a serious person or a troll.

I think self-voting

is kinda lame personally. There's really no reason for anyone to be able to vote on their own comment/post.

Perhaps the question should

Perhaps the question should be the reason why people choose to downvote or upvote something.
Someone said below that they downvote anything they say that isnt productive to the liberty movement.
I myself only typically downvote really negative posts or ideas that are particularly bad(of which I dont see too many).

Yes, there are definitely trolls on this site. How can there not be? A site like this is going to attract them like flies. I cant say that there is a particular number of trolls at a given time or anything like that, but you are being dishonest or nieve to think/say trolls wouldnt target one of the more popular political sites on the internet. Thats just the way things are. Heck, even out of the way gaming forums for niche games get trolls from time to time. They are a fact of the internet, period.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

The downvote threshold in this thread has entered the...

DANGER ZONE!

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

I just don't like the rating system

But I've probably said that enough to warrant some downvotes.

Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.

Those who claim to be about liberty down vote different opinions

Liberty. They keep using that word. They better look that up. I don't think it means what they think it means.

Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

I'm trying to figure out why this comment was down-voted

it seems like a pretty clear observation.

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freedom=

the ability to up or down vote comments,in your cases
to get down voted
who says truth isn't catchy? ;)
how better to gauge how truth stands in this place?
now go forth young glosshoppah and multiply (them down votes)
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

That is like saying censors are just exercising their "freedom"

to keep other viewpoints from being heard or considered. Especially when people just downvote without bothering to explain why the original post had either bad logic or flawed premises or mistatement of fact.

Localism is for people who can still sleep at night even though somebody they don't know in a city they have never been is doing things differently. ("Localism, A Philosophy of Government" on Amazon for Kindle or Barnes and Noble ebook websites)

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i was being sarcastic

usually my questions get down voted
and not answered
the ones who vote down and not explain just try to bury
it so no one else reads it
as you can see my first comment was down voted
they must think a little prick hurts badly :)
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

A good example....

....is the suspect person who OP'd the "brag about shooting stuff and guns you like to shoot while shooting shoot the guns shot shoot guns guns guns" thread over yonder...

I'm sure it's already been screen-shot (ha.) many times and forwarded to Mother Jones.

What's wrong with that? I

What's wrong with that?

I love to tell my 98yd coyote story with a hand gun. Best gift I ever got was watching him flip head over heel and go straight to the ground. Was the perfect shot.

For the PETA folks here, the coyotes are trying to get my dog. One well placed round stopped that crap. They don't come around here any more, and my dog can happily spend his daylight hours outside in peace. Although I have to let him in before the foxes invade at dusk.

Blah.

Scumbag trolls

And infiltrators. Most likely working for some agency to discredit and take a screenshot by saying some "radical stuff" so hopefully in the future we can be labeled as Terrorists.

But some of you want to let them be. I don't know. every site has it's flaws I guess.

DP has a select little few whose topics and opinions matter only and everyone else is just there waiting to be instructed. I refuse to go on chat anymore because it not only accomplishes nothing but also exposes some of you for who you truly are and what you believe in and also where you loyalties and morals really lie.

And I did not appreciate finding out anarchist are all over on the site spewing stupidity while they live in a Republic, yeah it's failing but it's still a form of Government. The logic unreal. So I just come here and read and get what information I can and move on.

And I really love how there are people on here posting topics undermine and declaring the Constitution worthless. Yeah Im Mclovin that one too. "Ya know the Constitution doesn't matter because of some F***ed up technicality I thought of today" The very thing that this is based on, The Liberty Movement has been declared worthless and meaningless by people on here. Null and Void. I still do not really what how to rebut it if someone was to regurgitate this garbage in person.

Topics often covered on this site range from, Murder, blackmail, corruption, Conspiracy, One World Government, Tyranny on a daily basis being exposes, a Police State, More Murder, beatings, imprisonment, The American dream being smashed by a massive steel toed boot with a Economic related topic, End of the World, Assassinations, War, Combat, greed, lies, deceit, disloyalty, Oath Breakers, Criminals, riots and protest anything and everything negative has been covered. And this is a Family Site? My family is not on here. Do not tell me to watch my language hypocrites.

lets not forget what Bush said "If the American people ever find out what we have done, they would chase us down the streets and lynch us"
I will not sit "politely".

I also heard some nutjob, Granger or something was asking for handouts. Yeah OK That is not going to happen. At least not from me. That takes some balls right there. And I know what she believes in because I read "her" responses to one individual who "is" a 9/11 truther.

You people have failed me. Remember that. And be diligent and down vote me with a quickness, I'd hate to inconvenience your precious paradigm that will soon end. Unless you fight for it.

"Freedom is Popular"

Do you mean 9/11 truthers...

...like Adnan Khashoggi and John Gray? Doesn't get much more on-the-level than those guys.

Get it?

On.

The.

Level.

Ha.

Bad day at work?

Maybe a nap and then grab something to eat, perhaps.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Did he really say that?

"lets not forget what Bush said "If the American people ever find out what we have done, they would chase us down the streets and lynch us"

I've never heard about that!

yes:

"If the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us."
--George H. W. Bush,

to White House correspondent Sarah McClendon, June 1992, in response to the question,

"What will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran-contra?"

Have you ever seen a video of it?

I looked last night and could not find one. I'd like to know more about it!

june 1992

no video.
some contention about whether GHW said this directly to sarah OR
she overheard him say it in a convo with someone else w/i earshot.
there is a series of 'McClendon Newsletters' that might clear this up,
but they are only fee-accessible.
thats about as deep as i will go on this for now.
if you make any headway, let me know!

Thanks

for getting back to me.

They must be bored. I just

They must be bored. I just down voted about 20 replies here, and it's really boring. No harm meant, was just testing.

Blah.