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AZ Police Officer Acted "Within Policy" as 15-Year Old Girl is Shoved Head First Into Wall

The original video - May 9, 2011:

http://youtu.be/YbFBgk1b0rg

Update:

"Sources tell us Larrison has at least 3 experts within the department who watched the video and agree he acted within policy."

http://www.myfoxphoenix.c...

PHOENIX - A Phoenix Police officer has been suspended after tackling a 15-year-old girl. The video, posted on YouTube, made national headlines two years ago.

Monday, that officer appealed, saying his punishment is too harsh, fighting the 5-day suspension at a hearing.

That hearing is closed to the public at his request, so we won't get to hear why he believes his punishment was too harsh.

Officer Patrick Larrison believes he acted within policy when he tackled a 15-year-old girl to the ground. Police were called to the school after they say a drunk teenager got into a fight with her teacher, then started walking away when officers got there.

This YouTube video sparked a yearlong investigation. A disciplinary review board recommended a 32-hour or 4-day suspension. But Chief Daniel Garcia thought the punishment should be more severe and gave Larrison a 40-hour or 5-day suspension. Typically that's the maximum number of days you can suspend an officer.

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Are you for real?

"She could have picked up the pace at any moment". But she didn't.
"She quickly turned" So what.
"We had a better view of her body language"? What difference does that make?
Since when is it a libertarian view to have police "prosecute violence"? Isn't that the roll of the court system?
The teacher was beaten so the teacher can "delegate her just violence to the police". That's crazy!
The drunk girl was at fault. But that doesn't give the cop authority to be judge, jury and executioner.

The rules of non-aggression

The rules of non-aggression and I think even Christian war theory would apply. You don't attack other people, and if you are attacked, you can defend yourself. Also, in the name of justice, you can use violence to prosecute someone when they've attacked you. Violence may mean forcibly stopping the attacker when they try to get away.

Your Comment is just

beyond stupid. What this cop did is enough to get him relieved of duty. A Straight Up Assault by a coward a Punk

"You Cannot Stop An Idea Whose Time Has Come"

The video began with this

The video began with this poor victim of yours beating up someone.

If your daughter is ever

If your daughter is ever thrown violently into a cement wall by some 200lb+ thug empowered with a badge, you'll probably feel differently.

I am deeply saddened that here on the dailypaul of all places, there can be found many people who condone the use of violence on the population, by the self proclaimed authorities. The cop didn't prosecute violence, he committed violence.

I think a lot of posters here are having trouble feeling sympathy for the girl, on the basis of her hispanic extraction.

I was with you

until the little race-baiting bit at the end. That dead horse is pretty much ground to dust by now.

A signature used to be here!

I really hope I wouldn't

I really hope I wouldn't raise children like that. I think you're responses are reflexive. Unlike you all, I've actually been in situations where people were getting tackled unfairly by police. My best friend got tackled from behind at night because the cop said he could have had an uzi, when we were 14 and just walking to the store. But this girl attacked someone and tried to get away, and you defend her? I didn't even know she was hispanic so whatever on the race card.

Looks like a few of the gestapo decided to grace

the DP here.

When I see this video - I see a thug, a punk, a bitch. Your argument:She could have had a gun, a knife etc. etc. Well, that's the risk you take being the "heros" you are. Doesn't mean we can just go off and slam peoples heads into walls. Imagine if citizens went around just slamming cops heads into wall since we KNOW they have guns and we KNOW they will use them for no reason.

some idiot commentors in here

i think the idiot comments are coming from people that watched it one time and that was it , go back you morons , watch the body language of the girl, and the langauge of the cop ,

the cop was definitely hopped up on something and ready for a fight by his demeanor , regardless if he issued an order there was a better way to do deal with it ,

of coarse his department will watch the video and say he acted within his means, he also had another officer there with him and they both could have subdued the 15 YEAR OLD GIRL with less brutal means.

WAKE UP DAILY PAULERS!

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

Police did the correct thing

to stop the crime suspect (who probably stole money from her fellow prostitute) from leaving.

Funny that an idle cameraman whould just watch the crime instead of calling police (as other folks did) then sell the tape to Russian propaganda outlet.

Liberty_First Eh???

I Recommend that you change your name to:

I_Condone_Needless_Violence_Against_A_Weaker_Person_As_Long_As_I_Can_
Justify_In_My_Mind_That_The_Victim_Is_Probably_Guilty_Of_Something_
Before_I_Know_The_Facts_First.

You and the cop both apparently believe that he had the Liberty, First, to throw a much weaker person violently into a wall (and ground) with overwhelmingly, psychopathic aggressiveness, without any regard what-so-ever to the potential of causing her serious injury...and...without warning the person to stop FIRST?

Her individual rights to liberty and justice are obviously different from how you view yours apparently. You deserve better than she because she is probably a low-life and you are not. You believe this because you really, really, really understand the Constitution, and she probably doesn't! Besides, after all, she was a worthless, nameless hooker and your name is Liberty_First and we should all respect that!

That's precious!

"Liberty tastes sweetest to those who fight for it, and most bitter to those who work to deny it!"

LearnRonPaul

Is this supposed to be funny?

Why throw out accusations at this girl? She stole what? What makes her a prostitute?

All we know is that she and that other girl were having a fight and by the looks of it, it was pretty mild.

Another commenter said she was "fleeing the crime scene" - more like casually strolling away. She was going at walking speed, not jogging or running.

Lethal force should not be given by the cops unless they receive it first. Period.

you sir are a douche bag

probably stole?

15 yr old girl dude, it was not cool by any means,

russian propaganda, what about american propaganda,

your'e a freaking idiot.

the girl was not resisting she was leaving and had her face turned away from the cop

that cop is a coward like most pigs out there.

nuff said... loser

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

You are sick, just like that cop.

You are sick, just like that cop.

We need guns

to protect ourselves from police officers like this guy. What a joke.

The girl was walking away, and he slams her against a wall!! what the..

Fire that cop.

ARREST that cop.

Assault is assault is assault is assault is assault... unless you are a cop?
THEY MURDER AND ABUSE OUR CHILDREN AND WE TOLERATE IT.

PLEASE call the Brooklyn police and DEMAND the arrest of the cops who MURDERED the 16 yer old boy. HE WAS SHOT IN THE BACK!!

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

See what you want to see, but remember he's carrying a gun.

You all want to see it a certain way, so you are. You ignore the fact that she is fleeing the scene of a crime she may have committed (not enough info from just the video) and we can't hear so well, so we don't know what he said to her to try to get her to stop, and what her reply was. However, she wasn't stopping, so while he was JOGGING to catch up with her, right before he did, she turned around. She very easily could have said something indicating to him that she had no intent on stopping, so when she turned around, his first thought was, she was verbally abusive, and evasive, and now she is turning to......I don't know? wield a weapon? kick, punch, stab him? Who knows. When she was asked to stop (which again, we just can't really hear) she didn't. So when he was almost to her, and she suddenly turns around, he exercised more force than what would have been needed had she not turned around and didn't know he was right behind her to apprehend her. It looks bad on tape, but that is because you all want it to look bad. Imagine if he told her to stop, she told him to F-off, he jogged to go get her, and she suddenly turns around with intent to try to physically assault him, which is what she just did to the other girl in the video. In that scenario, should he just take the assault because he doens't want to be to rough with her? Remember, he is carrying a gun. He isn't trained to allow himself to be assaulted just because the person is young and female. He is trained to not let himself be hurt, and not let his weapon be stolen from him. She was exercizing extremely poor judgment in leaving the scene, so what's to say she doesn't panic and go for his gun? That is the mentality you must have when you carry a firearm and are dealing with someone in a fragile mental state. It looks bad, but it would have looked worse if she lost it, kicked him in the balls, and went for his gun. I'm sure he'd rather have put her in the wall than let her take his weapon. But see it how you want to. Your version supports your own vision of "all cops are bad".

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

Yeah...She had aleardy used a weapon on the other girl!

You know, the one she ran off with after wrestling with the other girl for several minutes. The cop could see she wasn't armed...she was walking away quickly away, not running. He had time to figure that out, otherwise he would have drawn his gun, especially if he thought he was threatened.

"Liberty tastes sweetest to those who fight for it, and most bitter to those who work to deny it!"

LearnRonPaul

Correct, but you forget

that majority here are fake Libertarians. They are more of populist parrot variety who operate on emotions and peer pressure. Whining about bankers and flouride is their favorite pasttime if other scapegoat is not available. But they are ready to unleash their anxiety on anything else.

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"majority here are fake Libertarians"

Oh thank goodness, the only "real" libertarian on the whole DP! I have been searching high and low to locate one of you real libertarians, I am glad to have run across you here.

End sarcasm.

This has nothing to do with being a libertarian or not. This also has nothing to do with being emotional or not. The cop was out of line and overly aggressive for the situation at hand.

As a wise commenter somewhere else in this thread said; It really is that simple.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

I REPEAT...

I Recommend that you change your name to:

I_Condone_Needless_Violence_Against_A_Weaker_Person_As_Long_As_I_Can_
Justify_In_My_Mind_That_The_Victim_Is_Probably_Guilty_Of_Something_
Before_I_Know_The_Facts_First.

You and the cop both apparently believe that he had the Liberty, First, to throw a much weaker person violently into a wall (and ground) with overwhelmingly, psychopathic aggressiveness, without any regard what-so-ever to the potential of causing her serious injury...and...without warning the person to stop FIRST?

Her individual rights to liberty and justice are obviously different from how you view yours apparently. You deserve better than she because she is probably a low-life and you are not. You believe this because you really, really, really understand the Constitution, and she probably doesn't! Besides, after all, she was a worthless, nameless hooker and your name is Liberty_First and we should all respect that!

That's precious!

"Liberty tastes sweetest to those who fight for it, and most bitter to those who work to deny it!"

LearnRonPaul

So you think that what a real

So you think that what a real man does, is push a young woman head first into a wall?

You really are a horrid piece of work.

In times past, the behavior that male (because he doesn't deserve to be called a man) displayed would be reason enough for hanging.

a real man?

when did this become a gender issue? If it was a female cop, and a 16 year old boy, would you advocate that the cop simple allow the boy to turn around and assault her, just after he had assaulted the other kid in the video? Then the boy takes the female cops gun and shoots her? What the hell does gender have to do with this issue? You think that cops family cares if it was girl or a boy who killed him when he decided to allow a suspect leaving the scene of a crime to get the best of him? I'm not saying this cop was definately right, but you just can't tell from this video what the other circumstances were. All we know for sure is that she was leaving, she didn't stop when he told her to, and she suddenly turned towards him as he JOGGED towards her. Thats all we know. Had she not turned around, he very well may have simply apprehended her. If she continues just walking away like she did, maybe he doesn't put so much force into taking her down. You just don't know. Plus you don't know what she said to him, or the extent of how dangerous she was based on the altercation she had before he arrived. Cops deal with this all the time, and yes there are crappy cops, but you just can't know that he was definately in the wrong here when you only see the video and you don't hear what was said, or how this girl may have responded. Do you know she didn't threaten him when he told her to stop? Do you know what her intentions were when she turned around? Do you know why it would be any different if the cop were a woman? Why does "what it means to be a real man" have anything to do with this?

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

Maybe you watched a different

Maybe you watched a different video. I saw a young girl walking away, and just barely looking over her shoulder as she was slammed into by a 200lb+ man with a gun and a badge that says "Serve and Protect".

I don't give a rats ass what she said to him, she had no weapon and was absolutely no threat.

It would be equally horrible if were a woman attacking a boy and inflicting the same damage, but lets be honest, we're talking about a BIG MAN attacking a LITTLE GIRL.

That cop acted more like an animal, than a civilized man.

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yeah, whatever!

Take your own advice, snakeshit...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

That is your reply?

yeah, whatever? That is all you have to add to the discussion. You don't want to critically examine and refute my claims. You were there and you know that this peaceful girl was simply assaulted by this abusive cop? Please to tell, don't just leave me hanging with, yeah, whatever.

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

Real men hogtie pregnant women.

Woman gets $250,000 settlement after being thrown to the ground, hogtied by police while pregnant

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Anybody in law enforcement have an explanation for any of this? There are always two sides...but man, this seems brutal.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Looked like she was in a serious fight

Cop did not see the fight. Cop saw here atempt to run away. Cop almost ran into her.

I am no lover of cops. I do not agree with any of their authroity. They are armed agressive thug gang to me.

That said I did not see any behavior that was to far over the top.

She was running away he could have tazed her or even worse shot her.

She is one lucky kid if you ask me. Next time she may not want to fight in the middle of down town. But I dont know the facts about the initial problem.

Not a good situation at best.

sovereign

You Must Have Seen a Different...

...video than the one I watched then.

There was no circumstance depicted that would have authorized 'deadly force', therefore your 'he could have shot her' deduction is ridiculous, at best.

What you see as not being 'over the top' and as the juvenile girl 'running away', was in fact not acceptable.

She was clearly 'walking away' with empty hands, posing no overt or actual threat. An 'investigative detention' was likely warranted, but all he need do was either verbally stop her or, if necessary, physically restrain her using the least force necessary.

To charge at her and 'stiff-arm' her violently, causing her to fly either onto concrete or against a wall, is not acceptable. That level of force is totally unnecessary and could well be criminal.

It really is that simple.

MEybe in your world but in my world

Experience has taught me that things happen fast. In la la land the nice Police man says maaaam please stop then huggs her gently untill she calms down.

In this real world she is lucky he did not shoot her in the back. And get away with it.

As I said above I do not agree with the cops anctions even if he stopped it with cake and donuts. But he did not do as bad as he could have.

sovereign