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Pope Francis Kidnapping Controversy: Bergoglio Accused Of Involvement In 1976 Abductions

The election of Pope Francis, previously Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, has resurfaced a decades-old controversy surrounding the kidnappings of two Jesuit priests.

Bergoglio was a high-ranking official in the Society of Jesus of Argentina when a military junta was installed in the South American country in 1976. According to the Los Angeles Times, priests Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics were kidnapped in May of that year by the navy. "They surfaced five months later, drugged and seminude, in a field," the Times reported. A 2005 lawsuit accused Bergoglio of unspecified involvement in the abductions. Reuters explains that "the military government secretly jailed [Yorio and Jalics] for their work in poor neighborhoods."

Per the Associated Press, "Yorio accused Bergoglio of effectively handing them over to the death squads by declining to tell the regime that he endorsed their work. Jalics refused to discuss it after moving into seclusion in a German monastery." Bergoglio discussed the incident with Sergio Rubin, his authorized biographer.

Bergoglio testified about the matter in 2010 after twice refusing to appear in open court, but "his answers were evasive, human rights attorney Myriam Bregman said."

Much more to the story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/pope-francis-kidnap...


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Catholicism and the Austrian School

Are free markets an anathema to Catholicism?

Here's a book review from Tom Woods (I haven't read the book being reviewed): https://mises.org/journals/jls/19_4/19_4_8.pdf

Here's an essay from Woods himself: https://mises.org/pdf/asc/2002/ASC8-Woods.pdf

Other Catholics, too, seem to grasp the importance of contributions to humanity from Mises: http://catholicexchange.com/where-have-you-gone-ludwig-von-m...

My favorite is Rothbard's take. Try the first several chapters of his masterpiece History of Economic Thought: http://mises.org/books/histofthought1.pdf


Of course, on the other side of the debate there is literature that I, for one, consider to be obvious NWO propaganda, such as: http://www.amazon.com/The-Poisoned-Spring-Economic-Libertari...

The gist of that book appears to be: "You will go to hell if you don't consider your brother first and foremost." Remember the French Revolution, though, with all those Jacobin Club socialists running around murdering left & right and saying to their fellow (Catholic) Frenchmen: "Be my brother or I will kill you" (a real motto of the people perpetrating that terror).

Fortunately, people aren't always so quick to obey the collar, as comments beneath this drive-by dismissal might indicate: http://catholicism.org/ludwig-von-mises-and-catholic-social-...


Concluding opinion: I'm afraid that the Catholic Church, like so many other institutions in these "modern" times, has been overrun by what can only be described (in torah terminology) as luciferians.

News Flash

Oldest political body in the world has corrupt leaders!!!


Liberty = Responsibility

Per your own second link:

"Under Argentine law, an accusation can be filed with a very low threshold of evidence. A court then decides if there is cause to investigate and file charges."

All this story proves so far is that the new Pope has enemies and old accusations. He was never convicted of any crimes. I mean crimes other than the fact that he is a Catholic, a Jesuit, and now the Pope. Which is condemnation enough for some posters.

A quote from Marquis de LaFayette 1757-1834

"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country – the United States of America – are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated MOST of the wars of Europe."
Marquis de LaFayette (1757-1834; French statesman and general. He served in the American Continental Army under the command of General George Washington during the American Revolutionary War.)

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

Heres another peice

Accused Criminal becomes first Jesuit Pope – Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, tainted with Dirty War allegations, new Pontiff of Rome
Posted on March 13, 2013 by itccs

A suspected criminal has been rapidly elected as the new Pontiff of the Church of Rome in a record two day conclave, being the first Jesuit in history to head the papacy.

Former Cardinal and Pope-elect "Francis I", Jorge Mario Bergoglio, is accused of helping kidnap opponents of Argentina's military junta during the 1970's "Dirty War", and of baby trafficking, by lawyers and members of the Plaza de Mayo human rights group. (Los Angeles Times, April 17, 2005, "Argentine Cardinal Named in Kidnapping Lawsuit".

Besides his personal alleged criminality, Bergoglio – as a Jesuit – represents the group most responsible for the centuries-old Crimes against Humanity and Genocide for which the Jesuit Superior General was found guilty on February 25, along with Joseph Ratzinger and other Vatican officials.

The Jesuit Order established the murderous Indian residential school system in North America during the mid 19th century, and has led the destruction and killing of millions of non-Catholics around the world since its inception in the mid 16th century.

Under a secret oath administered to every member, the Jesuits are authorized and encouraged to kill, torture or overthrow any opponent of the Vatican and the Pope.

These facts, the Argentine allegations, and his complicity in the global conspiracy against children enunciated in the canon law Crimen Sollicitationas, makes the new Pope particularly liable for immediate arrest and sentencing under international law and the Common Law Court verdict of February 25, 2013.

The ITCCS understands that Jorge Mario Bergoglio's election was a quick and uncontested arrangement, as evident in its rapidity: in less than two days, a record for papal elections.

Bergoglio's election makes the guilt of the Vatican and its highest officials for Crimes against Humanity all that more severe. The new Pope, as the head fiduciary officer of the Vatican, Inc., assumes that guilt and liability.

Bergoglio is therefore subject to immediate arrest under the terms of the Common Law Court ORDER of March 5, 2013, issued by the International Common Law Court of Justice under the authority of jus gentium, the Law of Nations, and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

Accordingly, an application has been made by our Tribunal to these courts for an International Citizens Arrest Warrant, to be issued against the new Roman Pontiff, Jorge Mario Bergoglio – Pope Francis I, for Crimes against Humanity and involvement in a global criminal conspiracy based in Rome.

The ITCCS will soon be issuing more background evidence on the genocidal purpose and actions of the Jesuit Order in relation to the ongoing crimes we have documented; and of the evidence of Bergoglio's suspected crimes in Argentina.

Issued 13 March, 2013
ITCCS Central, Brussels

Here we go again.

More from the ITCCS, huh? A group of people put together a website, give themselves an authoritarian name with an official looking acronym, get a few attorneys to make everything sound legalistic and we all assume that they are big wigs.

This is the same group that wanted to claim that they forced the last Pope out of office.

I don't mind real info. This group isn't credible.

Lib theology not very catholic

Liberation theology is not exactly the most catholic viewpoint. I read a book called "The Jesuits" by Fr. Malachi Martin, and he goes into detail about how priests and religious became more oriented to political goals than spiritual ones, and that catholicism in South America became almost unrecognizable to what it should be.

When I first saw the headline that the two priests wouldn't leave the ghettos, I thought at first they were just trying to minister to the poor. If they were being more political, though - and I mean inappropriately so for priests, say to the point where spiritual goals get lost in the politics of the moment, I can see why Bergoglio may not have extended his approval of what they were doing. That they stayed when Bergoglio told them not to shows disobedience, which goes against their vows.

Don't get me wrong - I think it is totally appropriate for priests and religious to be in the ghetto trying to help the poor. But, the primary purpose of the Church is to save souls. Charitable acts like feeding and clothing the poor are outgrowths of that goal, but they are not the primary goal itself. It may be that Bergoglio saw that these two priests had lost sight of the main goal, saving souls, and that they were putting too much emphasis on a political solution only.

I notice no reference in this post to what HuffPo printed a little further in the article - that Bergoglio worked behind the scenes to free these priests. And, his answers in court were "evasive?" In whose estimation? No details offered by the article there, so I'm taking that with a grain of salt.

Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle. Mary, Our Mother, protect us under your mantle.

I've been reading that same book off and on for a few weeks.

Just don't have the focus to read it for any great length of time all at once. I was not at home when I saw the announcement on tv. When I heard he was a Jesuit, I immediately jumped to the conclusion that the Jesuits finally defeated the "White Pope" and the Liberation Theology will soon prevail. The very first thing I did when I got home last night was to look at the Index to "The Jesuits", in hopes of getting some insight into this man. Alas, Fr. Martin didn't mention him. What do you think, JSM, having read the book through?

The timing of the resignation (and I am skeptical as to why Benedict resigned), the political climate around the world, and now a Jesuit to replace Benedict at the helm of the Church, all seem to me to be a strong signal from within the NWO, as different players jockey for position. Sure wish Malachi Martin were here explaining these things.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Another Nazi Pope

plain and simple

Cowards and child molesters and those who defend cowards and child molesters are embedded at all levels throughout the perverted and damned false church.

This is true in many Protestant false churches and cults also.

They love their child molesters while embracing how the same liars and deceivers speak falsely about God and His word.


What you are saying is not my experience

Maybe you don't know that the Church has not only removed child molesters, paid victims millions, (who many remain with the Church) every Catholic Church I have gone into has notices with on the walls or on the program saying if anyone in the Church has done anything illegal or offensive, they will be removed and the Church INVITES you to PLEASE file your complaint.. it is extrememly important that if you suspect anyone who is associated with the Church, preist, deacon, alter, secretary, administration or maintenence, anyone Chior, Lector, Catechism program.. anything and anyone connected with the Church who makes ever so slightly a move that harms you, your child, any member of the Church.. the preist will lose his job. They are not asking for any GUILT.. it's not about GUILT.. it's about the fact that someone did anything that upset another.. child molestation, any sexual advance.. we will procecute and cut the cancer out of that Church even if it means burning the Church down to the ground. All you have to do it attend Church and make an accusation... join me.

It's time for Roman Catholics to grow up

You act like it's a new problem.

It's been going on for 400-500 years, and really since the Roman Catholic was founded as distinct from just a catholic church 1000 years ago. Homosexuality, prostitution, and child rape exist in massive numbers as far back as you can see.

In my area, which is heavily catholic, people are not told about this, and are told it was just "anti catholic bigots" saying it, much like they tried to shut down people talking about the pedophile scandal when it first emerged. They were vicious about it. They're unapologetic about it now. *1

And I expect that one generation from now if this were allowed to go on, the Roman Catholic church won't be teaching about the newest pedophile scandal, and that it was just anti-catholic bigots. The Roman Catholic church always presents itself as a persecuted minority, and it's the biggest religion in the world.

*1 wrong spirit. Flee this man made church and worship God alone.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I'm not acting

Nor am I trying to make it appear as if its a new problem.. I think as has happened in the past, the Church gets infiltraited, not that I don't think there are preists who being human have erred, and parrishioners who didn't want to believe.. so I think there's plenty of blame within the Church and I'm happy to see the Church take responsibility for the mistakes and being upfront and open to stopping more, even if it's erring on the side of being safe.. I like it and many of us like it much better.

The Church being so old and global, takes time to change, and that's very hard for those who live in first world countries to understand why the Church is so slow because they do not consider the Church's role in third world countries.

Most Catholics I know talk plenty about what's going on in the Chruch amonst themselves in their groups and committees, and to their credit, they do what they can to make Church a positive and healthy spiritual experience.

I also do not feel that the Catholic Church is the persecuted minority, nor the biggest religion.. The Church has many denominations, Franciscan, Jesuit, Dominican, Carmelite, on and on.. and each of these has their focus, which also goes to monestaries and convents.. eventually any scandal gets out, which is nothing to fear but something we hope to help correct.

Anti-catholic bigots... I don't feel that way, maybe some do, but for me, there's plenty of atheisst at chruch hoping to find God.. Many Catholics do not understand their own religion past Mass and catechism class.. but it is a very profound religion and I enjoy it very much, so much that other religions, and there are many religions who serve the people well.. It is not for me to judge them.. It's for me to make sure that it is not me who is abusing anyone in the Church and adoring my Church, loving Jesus and my neighbors, going my best to make the world a better place, praying to God it is his will, not mine.

Not separate denominations, (((((Granger)))))

Those are all "orders" sanctioned by the Vatican to exist for whatever purpose they were formed to do (teaching, ministering to the poor, or like in the case of the Jesuits, "to have the Pope's back and uphold Roman Catholic doctrine". How far the Jesuits have strayed from that!!!!!).

And no, Max. That crap has not been going on for centuries. With Vatican II, the Church took a very bad turn. We Catholics are aware of what's been happening over the years, in so far as we are able to know it. What happened that made Benedict resign and for the Cardinals to elect a (South American) Jesuit, is still something being kept in the shadows. Don't think for a minute it has anything to do with the sex scandal (or our religious beliefs, for that matter). That, I believe, is just the cover up of the real reason. TPTB are all jockying for position and the Vatican is a major player in that game. Don't confuse Catholicism with Vatican politics. Our faith isn't bs by a long shot. The political games have nothing to do with the tenents of our religion. How a Jesuit Pope deals with the NWO is the issue. Not being educated in or of our faith, I wouldn't expect you to know the far reaching implications of this. (Hell, even the oh so holier than thou hypocrites of my faith don't have a clue about that.) It is big. Believe me. It's big.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

(((((((((((Nonna)))))))))))) You are absolutely correct!

Mia Culpa! I looked at the word denominations and said to myself.. "that ain't right.. what is it?" And I had a brain fart.

THANK YOU and I agree with everything you are telling Max.

It is difficult for nonCatholics to comprehend the

deep and abiding truth found in the Mystical Church, which Vatican II had chosen to bury. The truth remains in that very mysticism, that very beautiful part of being a Catholic. Others will never see that, being focused on literalism. But, whatever path works for a person to bring him or her in communion with God, is good for that person.

There is a looming problem lurking out there. I have often compared it to an octopus, with many far reaching tenticles. Focusing on one suction cup thingy on one of the tenticles will never allow one to see the monster that's coming.

May Almighty God have mercy on us all.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Yes, it's been going on that long

I spent about 5 years researching this, have had Roman Catholics tell me no, it couldn't possibly go on, with lots of the "faithful" trying to shut down my website, censure me from google, etc, and my website was linked to a paper in the city the pope came to on world youth day over here in the middle of the scandal - and an answer to my prayer to God because Catholics were trying to censure me.

Yes, it's been going on that long. The church removes books from libraries, censures people, and rewrites history - and fyi it's mostly the Jesuit order - just made pope, that does it.

It's been going on a long time. They use to burn books and people at the stake for it. That it is an evil institution is the fact that they never repent.

Instead they deny they ever did it. Never apologtic. Never admit wrong doing. There is no grace or goodwill in this institution.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

You are focused on the wrong thing, MaxK.

I will not defend any act of abomination done by anyone. Evil is evil. As long as you stay focused on that issue, you will not be able to see the forest for the trees. It is a symptom, not the disease. The full blown cancer came out of Vatican II and has been spreading ever since.

There is no denying that the Jesuits have always been the most brilliant minds in the Catholic Church. Their sphere of influence is unbelievable... in every area of knowledge and in world governments' affairs. During the 1970s (in Nicuaragua) they did a full blown 180 degree turn against the Pope and have been every Popes enemies ever since.

But, if you want to stay focused on the symptom, go ahead. I won't try to stop you. Hopefully, you will help control the symptom before more children are hurt by it. I will focus on the cancer, itself, which affects everyone in the world.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I'm not focused on the wrong thing at all

I never said on this thread that the catholic church isn't the cause, it's a symptom of worldliness and not being saved.

You aren't saved because a priest baptizes you as an infant. You have to be born again.

The Bible says the whole world will worship satan, not just those in the catholic church, or in judaism, or in mormonism, or athiests, or this or that group. The whole world, everyone whose name is not in the Lamb's book of life.

That's the cause, which is why I don't spend all my time talking about one group's coverup or another. Because the world acts like the world all over.

Revelation 13
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

But at the same time, when a

But at the same time, when a particular wicked group or criminal starts to exalt themselves over others that's the time to start mentioning some of their crimes.

You ought to defend yourself.

The Catholics just elected a death squad pope. Right after they elected the pedophile scandal coverup pope.

So it's gone from raping their own kids to electing a Jesuit whose order is known for violence.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Next inquisition from Roman Catholic church?

You murdered an untold number of Christians.

Never repented. Instead, taught your kids to belittle them even to this day. While raping your own.

And the people that were warning you were the people you as a religion hated.

The discrimination never ceased either. Christians fled Europe to get away from you, and you followed them over here. Now, it's gone on so long, every single member of the supreme court is either Roman Catholic and a member of opus dei, or Jewish. This just isn't possible renadomly. Not just a slight inversion of statitics from those of the general population, but 100%.

And everyday, I see more discrimination against my religion.

Meanwhile, your last pope was the SPECIFIC person behind the pedophile coverup. Not just someone who covered it up, but the exact person that was in charge of it in the Vatican before he become pope. And this pope is one of the Jesuits that murdered people in death squads in South America.

By grace, I can forgive my enemy. But wisdom, I see you haven't repented, and are as foolish, violent, and bent on wrong doing as ever. There is no repentance. You just keep putting people in charge to do more of it.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Not saying it's just a

Not saying it's just a catholic problem, mind you. I really feel sorry for those kids.

Ironically, I was pretty vocal about this before it became accepted it was going on, and was even in the paper for it.

Turns out, my own immediate extended family on one side isn't very good, they are criminals, and I had the same problem in my own life, just not from an institution.

The world is a wicked place, and anyone saying it isn't is just covering up some worldliness or another. To God alone be the glory.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

This is what I wondered about

This is what I wondered about when I saw they picked someone from a dictatorship country.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Best not to jump to conclusions

Sounds like anti-Catholic agenda!

It's not an anti-altar boy

It's not an anti-altar boy agenda at least.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Now that is a jump..

This dispute isn't anti-catholic at all, in fact it is strictly catholic vs. catholic.

Two catholic priests claimed that the catholic cardinal turned them over to a militaristic regime to be tortured and imprisoned for 5 months because they preached that Christ's teachings justify fighting social injustices. Without jumping to conclusions, 2 facts have not been disputed, even by the pontiff:

1. The cardinal openly supported the junta.
2. The cardinal asked them to leave after the junta took over.

Either the cardinal, who wouldn't testify in open court until 2010 was lying or both Catholic priests were lying. Was it the 2 men who preached liberation theology or the man who openly supported the junta? That is the real question, and it's 100% Catholic vs. Catholic.

I AM is all that is. Everything else is malleable.

Do any of us REALLY know what was going on

in Argentina in the 1970's?

Absolutely not,

which was precisely the reason my comment contained only non-disputed fact without any conjecture. Please re-read. My exact point was that this legal matter was catholic vs. catholic, and therefore assuming this was part of an anti-catholic agenda was "jumping" to a conclusion.

I AM is all that is. Everything else is malleable.

I don't know what the "junta" was.

And I don't know who I would trust to tell me. So, for me, I don't know what to make of this story. The fact that the two priests did not obey the Bishop, but then later complained that he did not protect them seems a little incongruous.