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Spielberg's Hoax - The Last Days of The Big Lie

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Just so there is no confusion...

It was my sins that nailed Jesus to the Cross. I blame no man but myself for that.




Doc I've seen in a long time!

Sinister and diabolical. How

Sinister and diabolical. How much longer are we going to allow ourselves to be lied to?

Great post

This is a giant leap for the DP. Good stuff.

Good to see those white terrorists dropping the fear!!!

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

If this was supposed to debunk "The Big Lie,"

it does a poor job. For instance, the narrator produced a source (the page of some article) that he claimed proved a discrepancy of something one survivor had said in an interview vs. what she'd said previously, as shown in the article. Namely, he said that in the interview she spoke about something horrific she had seen (a body torn apart); whereas she'd earlier said it was a "dream" she'd had. On the page that was shown - what the narrator is calling his proof - the salient words are circled in red as to the part about the dream. But read the whole paragraph, the point being made in the article is that some survivors had had these recurring dreams, nightmares, only to later learn that it hadn't been a dream at all but had actually happened. I'm sure it's totally normal for the conscious mind to "block" what is too painful to acknowledge actually happened. The narrator took something out of context to make a point, when his "proof" actually supported the survivor's account.

There were other similar issues of the narrator's making an accusation with nothing valid to support it. It made the whole thing suspect. Even the issue about blacks who claim to have been at the liberation, while controversial (including among some blacks and some Jews), as far as I can tell it hasn't yet been proven to be a hoax - let alone by what he's presented. Google it. There is evidence that would argue that Parks couldn't have been where he said he was; other evidence suggests he very well could have. Apparently the division he was in was called a "bastard" division because it didn't always stay together, with soldiers routinely re-assigned to help out elsewhere. Plus there are survivors other than those depicted in the film who also recalled having seen black soldiers among those who arrived. (The Army has apparently said its records are unclear on the matter.)

I'm sure that any two or more people who witnessed the same event that far in the past might have conflicting accounts. For one, people can be impressed by different aspects of a situation. And under the circumstances, I think it's more than understandable that some of the details would get mixed up as to the time sequence or place. I have no idea whether those five people were remembering correctly, remembering incorrectly, deliberately exaggerating, or (doubtful) were part of some hoax. But in his attempts to discredit them, it was the narrator who lost credibility with me.

About the only part I trusted and was glad to learn (what appeared to be his reporting on something that others had debunked years ago) regarded one of the five survivors depicted, the Congressman - the part regarding testimony that may have tipped the balance in the U.S. going to war in Kuwait. Namely, the teary girl who turned out to be the Kuwaiti ambassador's daughter (that no one knew except the Congressman), giving testimony that was later proven to have been fabricated.

I have my own issues concerning Israel, including concerns regarding American foreign policy and also re our government itself, i.e., members of Congress and administrations past and present who are Israeli citizens, plus the power wielded in connection to campaign contributions and Congressional lobbying. But if it was this film's objective for me to listen to those people and question their integrity, resourcefulness, pain... it not only failed. It had the opposite effect.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

It supposed to be a hate propaganda

like it is done in Iran or Gaza. The documentary is 15 year old. The survivors were little kids at the time of the war and probably had a psychological trauma. Bringing that today on DP as some sort of relevant news to Libertarian movement fits our idots well.

Russian president, Putin, personally made agreement with Israel to defend facts since Russia and Israel have the largest amount of original German documents in their possession. Russia is facing similar smear compaign against Russian soldiers from Eastern European countries who during Hitler occupation fought against Russia along with Nazis. Neo-Nazis and Russophobes try to rewrite history of WWII.

Historic Revisionism.

David Cole, Jewish libertarian, researches and questions the 'Holocaust' in this film. He does not question the fact that Jews were discriminated against, nor the fact that many Jews died in WWII (along with many others), but what he does refute is the planned, ordered, budgeted, and systematic genocide of the Jewish people. He mostly lays out the undeniable lack of evidence of the existence of gas chambers in Auschwitz.

I never saw "The Big Lie"

so can't comment directly on that but the holocaust happened and millions of people were killed and we should learn from that.

However, Israel isn't exempt from that learning. They don't get to try exterminate people or put them in camps or treat them like sub-humans just because it happened them in the past. They should be the last people to treat anyone as they were treated.

[downvotes expected for saying the holocaust happened]







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Sounds like collectivism to me.

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the reason I didn't watch it

is because it's part of holocaust inc and little to do with the reality. I think proportionally there are way too many things about the holocaust. Stalin killed much more people but we rarely hear about that. There's one film about Cambodia but as a proportion of the population a far higher percentage were killed. I think the mistake with the holocaust is pretending it's some sort of unique thing that only happened to jews when that's just not the case.

In a lot of ways holocaust industries remind me of cancer industries. Both are forever looking to talk talk talk and neither are looking for a cure.

(thank you for showing a bit of discernment and actually reading my previous post btw)


What does this have to do with DP or promoting freedom & the constitution or bananas...????

Because our freedom and

Because our freedom and Constitution are being undermined partly by the ideology and goals of Zionism which hides behind the veil created by the holocaust.

It's sad but I think you're right...

It is so heartbreaking to see so many who have this worship ideology when it comes to Zionism. I realize that as any race, there are good and bad in them but those at the top of our financial system seem to all be Communist and want nothing more than to destroy this Country. The problem with that is these people for the most part are Zionist as well.

There's a choice between constitutions and bananas?

That's a no-brainer.

Here we go again.

Mental dependency on Jews from grown up gentile folks is appalling. Not a day passes by without them thinking and worrying about what Jews did or did not do. Who among them said the truth who lied. If Jews killed Jesus, control USA, CIA, media and money, then daily whining "Jews did this" or "Jews did that" just underlines your inferiority complex.

A normal gentile man or woman does not care what Jews do with their lives. If a norman man is not interested with Jews, he does not watch movies about them. There is nothing "Jewish" about socialist or capitalist ideas or about collectivist and individualist ideas. And that is the only thing at stake for a Libertarian man.

The problem is that people

The problem is that people like you promote anti Jewish attitudes by insisting that no Jew ever does anything wrong. When a group shields itself from criticism with its identity, it understandably leads to resentment. Jews are intrinsically, no better or worse than any other group. However, anti Arab bigots like yourself get defensive whenever someone shows how a Jewish person or group of Jews is wrong about something.

So you're saying they weren't lying in that film?


Wow, the Jews killed Jesus?

I thought the Romans killed Christ. You still fail to follow my simple conclusion and that is, should we ever refuse to search out the truth about anything? Does it make it off limits to question what happened during the Second World War?

There were untold millions who died in this War. Should we fail to question facts that are not the official story? If we ever cease to question what is happening in this Country, does it not open up the door for future 9/11. I notice that many people love calling people names instead of answering simple questions, I have problems respecting those sort of people.

It is so apparent, social engineering is working in this Country and will only cause the destruction of this Country if it is not stopped.

The Jews demanded he be

The Jews demanded he be crucified. Also, Jesus said they were guilty of ALL the righteous blood shed on the Earth from Abel to Zechariah... Bible is very clear that the apostate Jews were guilty of the blood of Jesus. Then they lured Christians into caves and the inner rooms and murdered them.

That doesn't mean that people who identify as Jews today are guilty of that.

Religious leaders of the Jews were the primary instigators

and they were the ones whom Jesus claimed would be called guilty for all the righteous blood shed from Abel to Zechariah (son of Berachaiah) (See the context: Matthew 24:13 - 35, where they are mentioned specifically!)

As for the vast majority of Jews at the time, The leadership pronounced a curse on them, and called them ignorant know-nothings for recognizing Him as a prophet. (at least) Many who saw what the leaders had accomplished in the crucifixion of Christ wept and beat their chests in sorrow: Luke 23:44-49.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Matthew 2724 When Pilate saw

Matthew 27

24 When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but rather that a riot was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this Man’s blood; see to that yourselves.” 25 And all the people said, “His blood shall be on us and on our children!” 26 Then he released Barabbas for them; but after having Jesus scourged, he handed Him over to be crucified.

Context implies all those present

not all the Jews. (Next...)

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Obviously, some of the Jews

Obviously, some of the Jews became Christians. There were approximately 1 million Jews killed in the Seige on Jerusalem. were there 1 million people calling for the crucifixion of Jesus? No. That entire generation except for the elect were guilty of killing the prophets and the saints and Jesus.

No, according to the context of the verse:

He was speaking directly to the the religious leaders, and Matthew 24:13-35 is explicitly in reference to this point. The others who were non-elect were guilty of standing by and letting it happen, but the leadership was directly guilty of murder. (I fully grant that both were sins, but that the leadership was guilty of the greater sin.) The issue of the crowd's cry, "His blood be upon us and our children!" is more to your point but some of these very people were likely to be the same folks beating their chests as He laid down His life.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

One of the coolest things to me

is that Jesus said that no man took his life:

John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

The other thing that Jesus said as he hung on the cross:

Luke 23:34 KJV
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

He laid down his life and he forgave those that were crucifying him and he took up his life again and defeated death so that thru Him, we might have the Power to be the Children of God.

Salvation is for the Jews first and also for the Gentiles. I happen to be a Gentile and I am thankful that a Jew died for me.

One day the Jews will look to Jesus in sorrow for rejecting Him!

Zechariah 12:10 KJV
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

They did this when he was on the cross:
John 19:37 And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.

And it will happen again in the future!
Revelation 1:7 KJV
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

I remember the day I said to my husband: there were a lot of people who were slaughtered in WWII and all we ever talk about are the Jews. I do not discount what happened to them, but many others were killed as well. God loves the whole world and sent Jesus to the whole world, not just the Jews. So IMO we should be just as horrified for the Cambodians, and Russians and Africans, to name a few, who have been subject to slaughter and genecide. But at the same time, I see no reason to begrudge the Jewish people for their slaughter.

Oh well, I have rambled on :)


that was a great post...

So true. So very true.

Thank you

for saying so. I appreciate feedback.

There have been no "Jews"

There have been no "Jews" since the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. Those under the New Covenant are the Jews. All those who are under the Law were cast out. Those claiming blood relation to Abraham are no different than anyone else, they are not chosen, there is not some future point when they will be unanimously redeemed. Their time was over long ago. They already looked upon whom they pierced (even that passage insinuates their guilt) and mourned in 70 AD.

Jesus and the bible document that the blood of Christ was on the Jews of that generation.

Matthew 23

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

Matthew 27

24 When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but rather that a riot was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this Man’s blood; see to that yourselves.” 25 And all the people said, “His blood shall be on us and on our children!” 26 Then he released Barabbas for them; but after having Jesus scourged, he handed Him over to be crucified.

And Jesus later said.

Luke 23:38 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.