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Children Understand Geo-Engineering, Why don't Adults?

Jet Aircraft anomolies, metals in rainwater and patents all reveal that geoengineering our atmosphere has been deployed by the powers that be. This is literally an experiment with Life itself. The children know whats up !

http://youtu.be/3o3dF17EROk

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Children also understand...

Santa Claus, the easter bunny, and the tooth fairy to be real.
I'm just sayin...

Thank you

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Moderator?? Help

Is there a special light you press like in a plane for one? They are way underpaid btw.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Open this box.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Watts Up With That, the #1

Watts Up With That, the #1 science blog on the internet, has a policy not to entertain conspiracy theories, and comments with the use of the word "chemtrail" in the comment will be put in the filter hole. It's a good policy because it helps hold the conversation about real science to a higher standard.

I submitted the video in this article to the site and Anthony Watts allowed the video to be posted in my comment. You notice this video makes no mention of the word "Chemtrail", as that is considered a conspiracy theory.

More and more the topic of "Geo-Engineering" is being discussed in the science blogs because of it's relation to man-made climate change and man-made global warming. With real documentation coming out on the geo-engineering programs going on, the issue will be discussed by the mainstream more and more.

My point is, try to substitute the word "Geo-Engineering" in your videos instead of using the word "Chemtrail". There is a larger audience you can be reaching by doing that.

I wanted to take your suggestion

And Change the title to Geo-Engineering but since its moderated I can't. I am hoping a mod might see this and help us out. Thanks :)

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

I wanted to submit a DP link

I wanted to submit a DP link to your article at WUWT, but I knew it wouldn't get past the filter, so I just posted the video.

Great

I hope to get it changed as I was thinking the same thing. Thanks again.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

A thanks to Bigmike

For changing the title !!

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

It's OK to use the word

It's OK to use the word Chemtrail once in a while as it brings out the attack squad and drives more comments, but we're really just preaching to the choir when we do that. I'm really trying to drive the issue into the mainstream. I'm getting a lot of people on board by pushing this change. You'll notice many new blogs popping up using the word Geo-Engineering in the title. I work with some of these people. Be aware, some of them are floating un-supported side issues that are meant as a distraction from the topic, but for the most part, the change is working.

I agree !

Totally ! Onward !!

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

bumpity . . .

bump, bump, bump--

thunder rolling--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Deniers gonna deny, haters gonna hate

The proof is in the sky! and if that STILL isn't enough then

A. Look up the patents for weather modification.

B. Go to some of the websites that sell the equipment

C. Go to a local airport and try talking to a pilot. Pilots are friends with pilots and you WILL find a pilot who does this or knows someone who does.

The proof is out for anyone *willing* to look!

There's no need to rely on some "weirdo" on youtube or some kooky "conspiratorial website" if that is beneath your "sane" understanding of the world.

Perfect

Thank you Recon. It is encouraging 98% of the comments on this thread were onboard. We are making great progress.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

no problem!

it gets me when people try and tell me that "nothing is going on" when I can see it with my own eyes.

Don't even waste your time

talking with these chemtrail believers. Someone close to me is a chemtrail believer. I've tried to reason with him...it's useless. He's one of the least scientific people I know and he just gets sucked into this stuff. He once thought the Sun wasn't a star.. that it's just a "sun". This is about when he was 30. Sigh......... He's a 9/11 truther as well. But, I still love him. :) He's a good guy that stands up in the fight for freedom. That's the core principle right?

I believe in the current

I believe in the current Geo-Engineering program going on all over the planet. I don't know the address of the rock you live under.

I got kicked off the Daily Paul for discussing Chemtrails.

I Was a member for four years then got booted. Why? For posting about Chemtrails. Michael said it wasn't conducive to Ron Paul's presidency bid. Glad to see the Daily Paul is back to promoting Truth. Let's hope they don't censor because of Rand in 2016.

We are glad you are back !

FYI

The Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act (S.517) was introduced March 3, 2005, on the floor of the U.S. Senate by Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) without co-sponsors. The bill was placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders on December 8, 2005. Calendar No. 319.

A companion bill, Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005 (H.R.2995), was introduced June 20, 2005, by Representative Mark Udall (D-Colorado) in the U.S. House of Representatives, without co-sponsors. On June 27, 2005, the bill was referred to the Subcommittee on Environment, Technology, and Standards.[2]

***Weather modification already forbidden ***

It should be noted that ‘weather control’, as well as ‘weather tampering’, is expressly forbidden dating from at least December 10 1976, when the ‘United Nations General Assembly Resolution 31/72, TIAS 9614 Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques’ was adopted.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

A must watch – Greening the

A must watch – Greening the Planet – Dr. Matt Ridley
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/14/a-must-watch-greening-...
Matt Ridley on How Fossil Fuels are Greening the Planet

WEATHER MODIFICATION ASSOCIATION, VOLUME 1, Number 1 March 1969

WEATHER MODIFICATION ASSOCIATION, VOLUME 1, Number 1 March 1969

112 Page Weather Modification Program Index.

HISTORIC INDEX OF PUBLISHED PAPERS VOLS. 1 – 40

- THE JOURNAL OF WEATHER MODIFICATION -
WEATHER MODIFICATION ASSOCIATION, VOLUME 1, Number 1 March 1969 TABLE OF CONTENTS
PAGE
AFTER A QUARTER CENTURY............................... 1
Vincent J. Schaefer
WEATHER MODIFICATION IN THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION............................................ 5
Archie M. Kahan
WARM FOG MODIFICATION................................. 11
Paul B. MacCready, Jr.
THE DEPENDENCE OF PRECIPITATION RATES UPON THE TIME POSITION WITHIN STORMS................................................ 20
George. W. Reynolds
AN OPERATIONAL HAIL SUPPRESSION PROGRAM IN KENYA, AFRICA................................................. 30
Thomas J. Henderson
PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS IN WEATHER MODIFICATION............................................ 33
Merlin C. Williams
ELEMENTS OF A MODEL LAW...............................................,..... 41
Richard A. Schleusener, Robert D. Elliott, and Thais U. Johnson
A WEATHER MODIFICATION COMMISSION.............................................. 44
Merlin C. Williams
WMA CONSTITUTION AND BY-LAWS.................................................... 49
QUALIFICATIONS AND PROCEDURES FOR CERTIFICATION......... 53
WMA OFFICERS, COMMITTEES AND CERTIFIED MEMBERS................................................. 56
WMA BACKGROUND AND PAST OFFICERS................................................ 57
WMA MEMBERSHIP DIRECTORY............................................... 58

http://www.weathermodification.org/WMA%20Journal%20Vol%201-4...

Get your program today!

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

More and more documentation

More and more documentation of the program are coming out a lot these days. It's sad to see the cognitive dissonance on the subject that prevents people from acknowledging it, because they worked so hard to popo it for so long.

Modern jet engines are very

Modern jet engines are very efficient and non polluting. When they add Trimethylaluminium to the fuel for geo-engineering purposes you get the white smoke trails.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylaluminium

NASA Admits Trimethylaluminum Rocket Dumps into Earth's Ionosphere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biYRHXalTpI

CHEMTRAILS CHEMICALS ADDED TO AVIATION FUEL GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT NOW ONLINE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIPgdZcQUws

Whats the

Motivation. What are your thoughts? Who's paying for this is the ultimate bottom line.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

CAGW Catastrophic

CAGW Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming Theory and global warming prevention. Money comes from classified government programs. CAGW is a real conspiracy theory, it can't be proven.

The Sun has been in a Grand Solar Minimum and is causing the planet to cool down naturally. We don't need any help from Geo-Engineering. There's going to be a conference in Florida on the subject soon.
http://chapman.agu.org/solarminimum/

Thanks

“Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't going away.”

Elvis Presley

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

I'm 55 years old.

I understand how monopoly power works, where those who steal the power to defend against stealing, then use the loot to steal more, and there is no limit as to what those criminals will do, including slaughtering children in Waco, so the concept of destroying the target's (productive people) capacity to make their own food, and requiring that seeds be purchased from the one Monopoly seed producer, is easy to see, for me at the ripe old age of 55.

But then again I could see this easy enough while at Public schools, where the biggest bigger bullies were the teachers, teaching by example.

Same business cycle, different actors, different markets.

Joe

Funny

"for me at the ripe old age of 55."

When I read that I didn't think you were old at all...I guess that is because I am right behind you :)

You know we have 80 and 90 year olds in our church. They are getting old. I don't think 70 is old any more :)

"But then again I could see this easy enough while at Public schools, where the biggest bigger bullies were the teachers, teaching by example."

I remember being in PE class and the coaches actually laughed at me. I had a dress on and I guess my slip was too short for the dress. I remember feeling humiliated. Gee, I didn't know slips were supposed to be a certain length...Not only did it humiliate me, it surprised me because I had never been ridiculed by an adult before...well, except for my father. I guess I was sheltered.

Yes, you definitely understand how monopoly power works. Thank you for the time you have given so that I might have an inkling. I have been thinking of the starving and freezing people today. Can't something be done? There are groups that buy goats and chickens and cows to make people self sufficient. I wonder if they know anything about your idea http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2999027 :

"If they were given credit, for being human, in the form of a house, a solar panel array, 2 electric cars, 2 modular green house farming units, enough land to make a go of it, a water well, a water tower, and 100 neighbors similarly credited, could that community exist in the Mojave Desert, and is it possible that they could produce something worth something to people other than those 100 people, worthy of that crediting those 100 starving, and freezing, human beings?

There are places, not just the Mojave Desert, with room to spare, good enough land, for modern life on earth, to allow 100 people, now starving, now freezing, to death, an imaginary place where there are 100 not yet built houses, powerful houses, self sustaining houses, arranged in some logical order, and 100 people could be moving into those houses."

Certainly we could do something for the starving people instead of having them stand in line for a single bowl of rice while their children starve before their eyes.

James 1:27 KJV
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Josf, I hope you will read these words. I think God is very interested in your plan. But it cannot just be a plan. Something must be done. What can be done?

Jesus is talking:
Matthew 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, In as much as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or a thirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, In as much as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

As a matter of fact, I bet you understand this passage better than I do because you have a power perspective: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/matthew/25-audio.html
text: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/matthew/25.html

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Reason

"Josf, I hope you will read these words. I think God is very interested in your plan. But it cannot just be a plan. Something must be done. What can be done?"

bear,

We both know how bullies operate, we knew by experience while growing up as children. I don't want to get too far off the topic title, so I need to blend some things together, if I can, before reading and replying to the topic starter.

Your angle of view, based upon scripture, is to me as essential a part of understanding as is the concept of Empathy being essential for human cooperation.

If the Blue half of the world is led to reject the power of Empathy while the Red half of the world is led to reject the power of Empathy, then a battle is being set-up by the so called leaders.

It may be a good idea to think for a moment in the shoes of those who you are led to hate because you are led into a false belief that those you hate are evil.

I think that is one of the most profound things I've learned from you so far, and you may not even know that you are teaching those things to me, but the concept of The Fear of God being To Hate Evil works when the individual looks in the mirror - to me.

If someone wants their Monopoly Power used to subject their targets to absolute obedience to the will of their Monopoly Power, then naturally, any of the subjects who question that power will be seen by the Monopolists as being disobedient, and that will be a cause, a reason, to shut them up.

This subject matter proves that point out well enough for anyone caring to know how that works, and caring enough to know better as to how that works, and caring enough to not settle for knowing less than better about how that works in our human reality.

A reasonable person needs to look in the mirror and see if they are one of the bullies who are duped into this abject belief in the Monopoly Power Fraud, absolutely, and without question.

That look in the mirror would constitute that first question as a challenge to that EVIL inside that person.

If such a look, by such a person, results in a reasonable response, such as "maybe", then instead of "you are a conspiracy theorist" being the "knee jerk" reaction to information that is troubling, such as this information concerning persistent vapor trails, then, having questioned their own internal power to know better, from worse, that individual may ask, instead of dictate, a response to the information offered.

Instead of this:

1.
You are inferior.

This:

2.
Why do I think you are inferior?

Look at the responses to this Topic and see all the confessions of how people are, in fact, as they prop themselves up as being superior, better, higher, more mighty, greater, authoritative, and monopolistic. Please, if you can, see that, in that way, and see if those who are that way are subject to their own better judgment, and if not, what power on Earth can help them if they are not able to help themselves out of Absolute Abject Belief in Falsehood Without Question?

Proverbs 8, if I have my bible studies remembered right, is very instructive for this Topic, this monopolistic discussion, right here, is it not?

"In as much as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."

We are both seeing better because we have found the keys and we have started the engine of empathy, or at least sympathy, to step into each others shoes long enough to question our own authority over what each other knows, and from that sharing of viewpoints we can both work to see better, and our power to see better is more that the sum of the individual parts.

Do you see that happening other than in our competitive discussions?

It is rare, and I know this from personal experience spanning many decades, and as you know, not just from Web based experiences, and not just from joining and moving on from The John Birch Society, The National Rifle Association, United We Stand (Ross Perot), The Libertarian Party (Congress U.S. candidate 1996), Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (Essay Contest Honorable Mention), We The People Foundation (Nation Legal Notice & Demand for redress of 7 specific grievances), Liberty Political Action Conference, and those Web Based experiences that include The Fully Informed Jury Association Forum (I was banned), Mises Institute Forum (I was banned), The Alex Jones Prison Planet Forum (I was banned), The Real News Forum (left leaning and that one was shut down during my efforts to find reasonable discussion).

So...my pretensions of authority as to reporting to you that you have this unique, God given, POWER, to offer discussion to other people, generously, honestly, is rare, and unique, not often encountered, and specific to your individual viewpoint that happens to be spiritually based: my pretensions are not baseless, as you know, or aught to know by now.

We The People are not perfect (not God) if we were we would all be exactly the same, copies of God, no flaws, no diversion from the one perfect power of creation. We aught to learn how to help each other when others seek that help, honestly, generously, and actually.

In context:

All the POWER flowing from all the National Tax Payers, from their individual POWER to make more POWER by the end of the day compared to the POWER they had at the start of the day is being spent on perpetrating World War III.

World War III is ongoing, it already started, and those at the Collecting End of the POWER struggle, those Collecting the National Tax Payers POWER, are investing in China winning World War III, so that they, those doing the Collecting, can move their World Reserve Currency Fraud POWER to Asia, since America has been used up, bled dry, consumed, RAIDED (as in corporate raiding), and will be MADE to lose World War III.

When it is over the Monopoly Power Collectors of DEBT, by any name, National Debt, World Debt, Reparations, whatever, those PEOPLE, those very high quality EVIL people, the best of the best Evil PEOPLE, will have even more POWER to KEEP ON COLLECTING DEBT, if their TARGETS can't even grow their own food.

If you can't understand how that works, then you have no authority to dictate your stupid opinions to me (not you bear, you do not dictate, at least not knowingly, and you do look in the mirror), and your reactionary, knee jerking, behaviorally modified, conditioned responses, to this information, is, a confession of your stupidity, and your fealty to the MONOPOLY POWER.

You are duped, each one of us, so it may be past time to get up, go to the mirror, and find where, exactly, that evil is hiding, because there is no POWER on Earth that can save you from yourself once your POWER to know better is compromised internally.

I do hope that that helps, and thanks so much, for the Topic, and for the help from our good Friend IN Liberty: bear.

Joe