convincing those 60+

Why does Congressman Paul receive more donations from active-duty military than any other presidential candidate?
Ron Paul (R, Texas) supports a strong national defense and has fought for the rights of veterans. He stands for military readiness, secure borders and the fair treatment of our troops.
As Commander in Chief, Ron Paul would never put soldiers in harm's way unless our national security were threatened.
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first." Ronald Reagan
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Content from David Garber (Utah meetups). This gets right to what the old folks care about! Support the troops. I think it's brilliant. Thompson can't hang on much longer. Giuliani should be throwing in the towel soon. The field is finally narrowing and hopefully we can get in there push our way to the top.

heres a saying i used on a sign

"The troops support Ron Paul, do you support the troops?"

it would be down to McCain vs. Hillary.
If the < 25 group got to decide, it would be Ron Paul vs. Obama.
Obama is competetive because he is bringing new voters. We surivive for the same reason. Something like 5% of RP supporters are 65+. Which group do you think will be easier to persuade? I'll take my chances with the kids, thanks.

RP states, "Frederic Bastiat predicted many years ago that liberty would be saved by the young."

I am sorry if my post seemed disrespectful. I have no intention of that, and I suppose I should choose my words very carefully. I am in no way ignorant and I respect my elders. I am almost there myself! My mother is 69 my father 70 and they are both Ron Paul supporters. I have met many, many, many elders who are as well.

My point is that there are a lot of those who are older, who have been raised up in a era (although most born from the depression) that was an era of growth and prosperity, many have done well or well enough. They can not comprehend that our government can be so cruel. I've heard my Mother-in-law state this very thing. My Father-in-law believes that I am brainwashed by Ron Paul. These are very intelligent people. She is Menza (sp?) and he was somehow involved in breaking codes in the service.

My feelings is that to spend time trying to wake up the most resistant to the message may not be the most productive use of time. I am not against it, but I do think that it would be easier and faster to address the most responsive; the young. If we build the passion within this group I believe the numbers would be stronger and most effective, there are so many who are still apathetic and caught up in their video games. We need to send out the war cry and they will respond, I believe this with all my heart.

I could work on my mother & father-in-law until I am blue in the face but it will do no good. Instead I called my sister-in-law and spoke to her and her son (now 18) and within 1 hr gained 2 supporters.

I am encourage in this belief by MDKidd's thread here:http://www.dailypaul.com/node/26993

I can not believe the absurdities i read in this forum.
Social security had a noble intention and though it has been perverted into a system run aground it still has a good function , so does medicare. The goddamned enemy is ignorance. Ignorance of the fact that neither the industrialist nor the governement has ever had an interest in funding the "gloden years " of those hwo have worked their asses off for an entire lifetime. Yes it is a pyramid but it could be nothing else . The fact is that any person`s retirement income and medical insurance should be solely the responsibility of the government by the redistribution of taxation alone .
This could have worked and can still work if this government could be forced to economise on the expenditure of tax revenue like a drunken sailor and also if it was not bent on running the goddamned world. "It" the government has never allowed for citizens to enjoy a sizable tax break on savings for retirement.401k feed the stock market IRAs are limited
by absurd rules of engagement. So is it any wonder that people fear losing wthat little they have? Most of the 60 plus were excluded from the concept of the 401k or iras. It was not offered by employers and in most places it still doesn`t exist. They are not the enemy the government is . In every generation it (the gov.) has found the right buttons to push and has kept each one in check with just enough comfort to keep the people confused and voting for the wrong politician.
Now Come you young people who still don`t have a clue . Work a lifetime raise and pay in full your child`s college education as i have (two of them) hold a job for thirty years, live the ups and downs, then criticize.
Ron Paul has awakened people not because his message is ORIGINAL no it is because he has the guts to tell the people what they never figured would be delivered by a member of a corrupt government. BUT People are used to the devil they know . The older vote can be reached only if there exists the reassurance that by giving it, the giver is better off than it is today.
That is what the older people want to know , they will be ok by voting for Paul and will vote for him if somebody can explain how it will work. Do that and Paul is a shoe-in.
As far as not needing the older vote is concerned the statistics prove that more older people vote than do young.
Another thing my inexperienced friends , begin to search out Paul like minded politicians who are willing to govern as he would should he win and also to pledge it publicly. I want Paul for president .. but he can`t do it alone and the older folks know that . They will vote for the devil they know out of fear. Their vote is too great in numbers to be lost or given up. The message to them has to be positive ,it has to be one that reassures them that they can live with some comfort in the remaining often unhealthy years they have left . I am six years away from sixty and i can tell you that the majority of my age bracket is not doing so well because of a corrupt government which is the real enemy.One that reduces constantly the standard of living of the people by enacting policies that make no sense .
I support Ron Paul and contibute to his campaign but along with himself and his proposed changes his message to the older voter has to be one of reassurance and possibly if ready reveal one or two political allies. People choose guaranties even if they are false ,,, it has always been that way for all ages concerned absent an explicit plan to take care of people when they can no longer work.

I have talked to several seniors and those in my family. They are afraid they will lose thier Social Security if we let the younger generation opt out.

Dr. Paul, in my opinion needs to lay out a specific plan and emphasize that he will not allow current contribution to be spent, rather saved and invested. The RepliCrats have been lying to them for years claiming the Trust Fund is in an "Iron Clad Lock Box". I would gladly contribute 25% of my SS benefit to them, if I can opt out and invest the money on my own.

Brian
USAF Veteran
Defense Contractor

There is one message for everybody.

Maybe you are trying to change their minds. Only they can do that.

By the way, I'm 60.

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Seniors need to know that while we CLAIM to support our troops, this is what we do, how we are treating them in a time of war: (our actual policies and proposals from the Pentagon)

1. We request a pro-rated return of enlistment bonuses when a soldier is wounded or killed;
2. We are reclassifying injuries and related benefits to exclude as many veterans as possible from medical care and services;
3. We are increasing the medical care costs for dependents and families and cutting their benefit plans any way we can;
4. We are paying "security contractors" ~10 times what we pay the average gi, (whose family is on food stamps);
5. We no longer provide adequate training prior to combat to keep the supply of cannon fodder rolling out;
6. We are increasing and extending battlefield deployments and wearing our troops out (and putting additional burden on families at home);
7. We are using "GREEN CARD" soldiers to the greatest extent ever, and do not have to include their injuries and deaths in official counts;
8. We are have changed the rules and allow felons to serve (we have created a jobs program for early release prisoners);
9. We are generating huge payrolls and ancillary service jobs in every other country except AMERICA;
10. We are using our soldiers in an unconstitutional war, an immoral pre-emptive war, and have desecrated the oath of service....

We are decimating our own NATIONAL SECURITY and failing to protect our own borders....how is that PATRIOTIC????

Is any of the above really supporting our troops? For references or resource information check the Military Times, Veterans For Peace or any of the other Veteran's activist sites.