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I Need a Good Quick Response to a Former Boss

My former boss loves Obama etc., and she posted the following wanting to raise the minimum wage to $9.00:
"Lets help the economy and decrease those qualifying for welfare at the same time, a win-win for the deficit and our country!"
Please help me encapsulate a great comment in a short amount of words. Thanks. I am too brain dead after a long week to think.

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Tell her you have GREAT NEWS.

Tell her she and Obama can raise the minimum wage to $100/hour because in 10 years small business won't exist in the USA, most of the industry is already gone and NOBODY WILL HAVE JOBS.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Don't we have bigger battles

Don't we have bigger battles to fight? If corporations had their way they would still use child labor and pay them 50 cents an hour and work them 12 hours a day like they used to before child labor laws were enacted. Child labor laws interfere with the free market. Do you want to repeal them too? If we prioritize our fights this one would seem to be near the bottom of the list to me. Lets focus in cutting taxes, not holding down wages.

He is a heartless bastard.

He is a heartless bastard. Minimum wage should be at least twenty dollars per hour, hell maybe even fifty or a hundred.

The Minimum Wage...

is completely immoral. I understand that minimum wage is not enough in most parts of the country to support a family but it is also too high for a small business owner to take on unskilled labor. The reason 50% of black youths between the ages of 16-25 are unemployed is because of minimum wage laws. You must be able to provide more value than you are paid. Low paying jobs are learning and experience opportunities.

I guess I'm not alone

I might say something like...

"Minimum wage laws price teens and the unskilled out of the market. Some jobs are not worth $9/hour, and if an unskilled person or a teenager, or anyone for that matter, is willing to work for $5/hour, or heck even $2/hour, why should we stop him? Why should we stop him from gaining work experience that could better qualify him for a higher paying job later in life. Minimum wage laws hurt low skilled workers."

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#1 Increasing minimum wage

#1 Increasing minimum wage contributes directly to increasing inflation, driving up poverty and the growth of government.

#2 What would be better is a program that stabilizes the value of the money (earned wages) such that what we earn is not stolen away from us in increased taxes and inflation while simultaneously depriving government from competing with the impoverished (subsidies to farmers not to produce) for the basic food and services required for life.

9 bucks?

I think the rate very well may be in the vicinity of a 100 bucks the way things are going? ;)

Even 9 bucks is not going to cut it in a couple of years. This is a tax/regulation and currency problem imo. Businesses have to be enticed to open up shop.

ie. make Detroit a tax free zone :D

There are basically two choices left...cut gov spending or get ready to join the army...Personally, I told the recruiter that I could not get up a 0500 or whatever it is. lol

I would of enjoyed the exercise and the team spirit though. What do the French call it? Corps de Spirit or something like that?

donvino

This is not likely to be a subject that can be clarified quickly

It will take some time and patience, (not to mention receptivity and openness on her part) and graceful presentation of the facts.

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Neither good nor quick. Take steady account.

Money going to a bank:
You & I ain't gonna bailout a bank. No sir. Us poor folk ain't got enough money.

Money coming to you:
"It isn't the sum you get, it's how much you can buy with it, that's the important thing; and it's that that tells whether your wages are high in fact or only high in name." - Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court

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Thanks everyone.

Thanks everyone.

"Minimum wage laws are...

...RACIST"

Her liberal head will explode.

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Oh Jane, you're too

Oh Jane, you're too conservative. Don't you care about poor people? The minimum wage should be no less than one million dollars.

Reminds me of this gal

http://youtu.be/dChBN_zfofY

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

What the...

LMAO!!!

Isn't that far out beyond

Isn't that far out beyond words?

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

Let's raise the minumum raise

That way we can force small business to fail and put more people into government jobs, more government jobs, fewer people on welfare, bigger government, less freedom.. is it worth it?

Jane, you ignorant slut....

I agree with the posters below...get her to explain it to you! I have found these "progressive-types" to be completely without logic or reason. No matter how you explain to her why this is a bad idea...explain the value of currency, explain that retailers will simply jack-up the prices to pay for the increased wages (think about the cost of diesel...the trucking companies simply tack-on a fuel surcharge to recoup the added costs...and we all pay for it when we buy stuff!)...she simply will rationalize it however it fits in her brain.
In short, get her to explain it to you...and keep asking questions til she talks herself into a corner and gets mad.

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Great comment

And your headline "Jane, you ignorant slut.." made me burst out laughing.

I wonder how many here understand the reference? Those were the days when SNL was worth staying up for on a Saturday night!

Why not ten?

Why not twenty?
If raising the minimum wage were good for the economy, why not raise it to a million? Then we'd ALL be rich and no one would be on welfare. A win-win for humanity, right?

And echoing the previous respondent, keep it civil and cordial. But persist WITH QUESTiONS! Get her to explain why 13.48 (or 9, or 9.25) is just right, but twenty is too much.

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Absolutely...

But I think 1 million is a kind of threshold, "hey, I disagree with you" sort of number..

It needs to be something like $117/hr for everyone. That will get her thinking, 1 million is out of reach.

"I agree, but don't stop there at $9, legislation takes years, and if you are going to pass this, it needs to anticipate the future, that is why I say no less then $117/hr for everyone. If that gets passed, McDonalds employees could buy large house, food for their families." But, wait, err ummm...how much would the burgers...ummm

I think 1 million doesn't get her thinking, keep it between 100 and 200. My 2 cents.

gene's got the ticket

there's your answer.

Agreed.

Coax her into splitting hairs between 9 & 13.xx. Allow her to drift through her own faulty logic and goldilock between 2 numbers. Then hit her with the printing press & a link to mises. Viola! Internet winning.

Gene's on point here.

Why not

just have the Fed print enough money so that everyone's rich?

I'm assuming this is on Facebook?

Well, this is just my approach and my approach only but I usually stay away from trying to argue my point with people on Facebook. It's too easy to misunderstand peoples motives and tones. But, if I did feel compelled to respond, I would start with a kind salutation and a little friendly chitchat to soften the mood first. Then I would turn her statement back on her and ask her to defend her statement (politely). "Sarah, I'm right there with you on decreasing the amount our govt spends on welfare and boosting the economy. I hope you won't mind me asking how increasing the minimum wage will do those two things. Thanks!" (smiley face, whatever).

I know that might seem too passive for some but I always try to keep in mind, how would I talk to someone if they were sitting across the table from me. I think too many people who might have been persuaded were turned off by what they perceived as attacks on their right to their opinion. I am of the opinion that more people are brought around when they feel like we're in this together.