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Anyone interested in making a movie (project of love) based on the life of Dr. Paul?

I recently found out that there was a made for tv movie based on the life of Dr. Ben Carson. This got me thinking as to why there wasn't one of Ron Paul. I obviously know "WHY", but I'm not talking a very high production movie costing millions, but more along the lines of an amateur film with amateur actors. Remember what the Zeitgeist movie accomplished? While this movie would be based of Dr. Paul's life, the ultimate goal of the movie would be to have the viewer "UNDERSTAND" the man, why it is he says and does the things he says/does, and ULTIMATELY, wake people up in the process.

The movie would be based on his entire life up to the present. Starting with early childhood and his separate jobs, paying for college, the moment in medical school where he reinforced his pro-life belief, his military service, his free/payment plan medical service, his political life specifically pointing out why he voted "no" on several "controversial" bills, the "newsletters", the predictions, the presidential runs, the MASSIVE rallies, the booing in SC at the Golden Rule, the troop support and eventual march on the White House, the msm blackouts, the election fraud, the blatant GOP support of Romney throughout the primaries, Ron Paul's convention and the GOP convention, and what he's been doing since he's left office.

I'm thinking the movie could contain experts of speeches(with links to them in the credits), everything either factually verified and/or strongly suspected/obvious(election fraud). It should obviously also contain anything he's fought against in the past (Patriot Act, NDAA, SOPA/PIPA, raw milk regulation, etc.).

I'm hoping some people here with the skills/equipment/resources like this idea and either pursue it, or knows people that may like to pursue it. We could all contribute in some way or another. Money, ideas, research/sources, script writing, promotion, and eventually a cast/crew.

To add;
Ben Carson recently said at CPAC that it's OUR responsibility (churches for example) - not the governments - to take care of our own. He said that to massive applause. Remember how Ron Paul was booed after a moderator implied that he would just let someone die if they didn't have healthcare? So now that the same words are coming from someone else, they're okay as long as it's not Ron Paul? Or are people starting to wake up?

Again, the ultimate goal is to wake people up, have them realize the division of the fake left/right paradigm that forces us to choose between the "lesser of two evils" election after election, and destroy the misinformation that's out there. With so many examples surrounding Dr. Paul's life, I think this movie would be a perfect way to get someone that normally doesn't like Dr. Paul, to suddenly experience an epiphany or two and possibly even realize they've been duped. After watching the film, it's my hopes that they will more than likely stop COMPLETELY believing the tv propaganda, and begin questioning more in the future.

I'm sure many of you would be interested in seeing a movie like this. How many of you would or could help make it a reality?

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It could be called "The last American Standing"

or is that too depressing?

I do have hopes for the generation he inspired.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

The best way to do something

The best way to do something these days is to find a professional support team and put together a Kickstarter to get your funding.

Yes, but if a professional support team is not

available, do you simply give up, or do you make due with what you have? A pretty good movie is usually made only after a book has been published, or an inferior movie was made, and thus Hollywood saw the interest it garnered and looked at it as an opportunity to make it better. Aside from making money off it, they would also like the recognition for a groundbreaking movie.

At this point, I'm simply trying to gauge interest and commitment.

You gauge interest by

You gauge interest by presenting your idea after determining your costs and creating a Kickstarter. For example, if you live in the sticks and determine you will need to move to Hollywood, hire a screenwriter, director, producer, rent a RED camera, hire a sound and lighting crew, catering, location scout, post-production facility, a casting agency, actors or voice-over talent, composers for the soundtrack, licensing fees for a few pop songs, line up a distribution partner, attend some film festivals for promotion, etc., etc.... All of these things have been done before and there are many online and offline sources for determining these figures. Add it all up, give yourself a little extra for margin of error and Kickstarter it. In just the past week I've seen the Veronica Mars movie raise millions of dollars, and that's for an old TV series with limited appeal!

Well as I mentioned in some of my other comments,

I'm trying to gauge interest and commitment. I'm not about to start asking for funds when people haven't even committed. If no one steps up, then I, MYSELF, will undertake the writing of the script - and I'll be the FIRST to admit the I consider my own writing ATROCIOUS. However, I will not be letting that stop me. I WILL TRY, and once completed, WILL seek more experienced help, and IF necessary, meaning that no one steps up out of pure love for the project, ask for funds.

There seems to be a misunderstanding here Velveeta. I agree with your advice if the interest I'm "presently" trying to gauge is "Hollywood's". That's FAR OFF at this point in time. The interest that I'm "presently" trying to gauge is from people here on the DP as far as contributing their skills/talents/time to the project. Once the project is somewhat close to complete(or at the very least started), then will I go the kickstarter route. Thanks again for the advice though.

PS. Wasn't planning on licensing any pop songs, but hoping to rely on indie artists generosity/contributions such as Golden State, Jordan Page, Aimee Allen, and John Popper. Realistically speaking, from the response I've received so far, it's probably going to be very low-budget piece, and once that's completed, I'll have to gauge interest for financial support as opposed to the "creation" of it. We'll see how it plays out.

We don't have time for nostalgia.

That being said, if your video were to include support for the americanherofund project in some way I would definitely be interested in throwing my support to it.

There's a billion ron paul/libertarian videos on the internet already. What we need is ACTION NOW because if we don't win this thing soon then it will be TOO LATE.

In fact why don't we promote a whole ton of activist organizations in the movie while we're at it? We need people to get up get out and get loud... we can't have them just being entertained in front of their computer monitor.

It's NOT about nostalgia - did you read the whole post?

It's about getting people to wake up. If we don't get them to stop believing everything msm tells them and wake them up, we're not going to get all those activists you're talking about. This movie is NOT about nostalgia, or a "cheerleader" movie for Ron. It's about REACHING that ELUSIVE audience through measures that have NOT been tried. Go ahead and point me to a Ron Paul biopic where the viewer isn't force-fed fact after fact like many of the youtube videos. The movie is intended to draw the viewer in, develop a bond with the character(Ron and/or the Libertarian viewpoint), and have the viewer start questioning everything they once thought to be fact, and see things in a whole new light/perspective. I encourage you to read the other conversations in this thread to get a better understanding.

I agree. Ron Paul is catnip, or the Pied Piper (except leading

to liberty not to lock you under a mountain.)

His life, his votes and message being the same make him and his story an amazing way to engage others, imho. But I may be biased because of how well it worked for me...

but everyone here saw the university crowds. Ron wakes people up.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

Exactly! He's a messenger,

as ALL of us CAN be. If anything, with today's communication technology(internet) we are able to do MORE on a global scale. I think this movie could inspire anyone out there to believe that if a simple, humble man like Dr. Paul could stick to his principles, and not "play by the politicians rules", THEY could be inspired themselves to make a difference, by becoming activists, running for office, or simply spreading the message. But we have to wake them up first, and in order to do that, we have to show them the truth and squash the lies they've been lead to believe their entire lives.

BTW - I laughed at the term "catnip" - never heard that one before.

'how to herd cats....'

Yeah, I'd love to see this project take off.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul


Yes, it looks like I'll be herding elsewhere - lol. I'll post "whenever" it gets finished(at least the screenplay).

To be honest

I would really like to see a movie of the rEVOLution, the Liberty Movement, the people who lead CPAC. the guys who own RonPaul.com.. Richard Gilbert, Nystrom... people who have come gone, come, gome, come back, gone, come back again.. It always facinated me to see people at conventions.. GOP, Libertarian.. to see those who Ron Paul cured their apathy and see how far they are.. those who were elected into GOP offices.. I'd like to hear their perspectives on Ron Paul, their stories..

I think what would also make a neat movie is Dail Paul.. through the years, the money bombs, campaign, censorship of RP in the media, the times when there was over 100,000 people here.. to interview Nystrom, the mods, the has been mods, the advertizers.. the whole movie should be like looking at the conputer screen of DP, and the mouse browzes the subjects, ot topics and opens the window to the thread where people were freaking about Ron Paul being gone.. and then Ron Paul comes back. and then Ron Paul's picture is gone.. for a good editor it could be fun.

Grang - ALL of what you just mentioned should be added IMO

Great input.

"for a good editor it could be fun."

And that's just the idea behind this - a labor of love by the people. Make people see the LOVE in "rEVOLution", and get a TRUE understanding of Ron Paul and his "crazy" followers and why they're such a passionate bunch, while at the same time holding msm accountable in the eyes of the viewer as they wake up.

A movie is like a business

A movie is like a business startup. It requires a small group of singleminded individuals committed for years of time at a stretch. It's not for dilettantes.

Which is, as I replied in other comments, that I was gauging

interest and "commitment". Haven't seen much, but that's alright. That hasn't stopped dedicated individuals from achieving their goals before. It'll just take longer and it won't be the "high quality" I would have liked. Hopefully after a first rough "draft" is completed, others will want to join.

I'm not trying to slow you

I'm not trying to slow you down or stop you with my suggestions, I'm just offering ideas. Obviously, the heavy lifting comes down to your level of commitment.

Also, it might interest you to know that a first time screenwriter should expect to write and rewrite their first script as much as 10 or 20 times to get it to production quality.

I know you're not!? Not sure what gave you that idea???

On the contrary, all of your suggestions are very helpful and I was already fully aware of what was in store if I undertook this kind of project.

I was simply hoping that I'd get more of a "let me know when you're ready to start and count on me with helping with (editing, writing, directing, finance, marketing, etc)" - whatever people are good with or have experience in.

With my atrocious writing skills, I'm sure not looking forward to it, but as I stated before, it's a labor of love(one that I wanted to share with DP's here) and if the outcome is what I expect it to be, I feel it's the least I can do and well worth the time and effort.



Adding my two cents here

first you have to have any introduction of his contemporaries in the thought of libertinism. May do something like this. Show all the people that influenced him…….Locke, Nock, Jefferson, Rand, von Mises, Rothbard………I don’t know all of the people that influenced him……those are the ones the influenced me that I can think of off the top of my head. Have pictures and their names cross the screen during an introduction playing this song. From the 5 min mark to the 7:30 min mark…….with RP getting the last 30 seconds of pictures throughout his life.
Remember this would be an intro……5:00 to 7:30

"Before we can ever ask how things might go wrong; we must first explain how they could ever go right"


I appreciate your 2 cents

I definitely agree with including his influences as well as mentioning G. Edward Griffin, and Barry Goldwater.

As for the introduction, I was thinking more along the lines of controversial moments in order to draw the viewer in. Something like having angry people at the beginning of the film calling him crazy, dangerous, racist.
Something similar to this opening:

That clip includes controversy and speech. It could include Carol telling Ron, "You know Ron, what if you actually win? Then what?" Then the movie starts.

Or also opening the movie with a couple of quotes flashing on the screen:
"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.", "An Idea Whose Time Has Come, Cannot Be Stopped By Any Army Or Any Government", "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad.", or "Those willing to give up liberty for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both".

Just tossing ideas for now.

ok but

wouldn't you rather get people confortable with theidea that there are other well known men from the past that had the same views as RP, so that his ideas don't seems so radical.You could put qoutes such as give me liberty of give me death.....something from each person.....i wouldn'r use goldwater.....if i am not mistaken he was at start of the neo con movement.


it's free to read

"Before we can ever ask how things might go wrong; we must first explain how they could ever go right"


Ummm......Didn't I just suggest that very thing?

Those quotes are not from Ron Paul, but from Benjamin, Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Victor Hugo, and James Madison. So I'm not exactly sure what it is you're talking about regarding your comment; "other well known men from the past that had the same views as RP"???

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I think its a great idea

I think its a great idea ecard. But it is SO much work. I just put videos and pics together for a family member (along with music) and the 53 minute video took me nearly 40 hours of work.

I never said it would be easy - Something worth fighting for

rarely is. Some here are more skilled than others at certain things. Some could tackle collection of data/research, others help develop ideas, others writing(we have some really talented writers here), and obviously others in the actual film making process. All this work could be divided and intertwined if we all pulled in our collective talents and did this as a "labor of love" with the agenda of furthering the "cause" and waking people up. When I hear "I'm not talented" or "That's too much work", - I'm hearing "I'm giving up before I even try" and "why bother". And I don't mean that in the way of calling you guys quitters, but more in the way of you guys selling yourselves short. Just imagine Ron Paul back in the 70's and actually "trying". He didn't have experience as a politician, and he also realized he was fighting an uphill battle, much less thinking he would ever win. If no one ever starts or takes that first step, we'll never finish or accomplish anything.

Obviously talent is preferred, specially at the end stage of polishing and editing the final piece. However, everyone can input "anything", even if it's just one single idea that maybe hasn't crossed anyone's mind yet. We're at the beginning stages and all ideas/help are welcome. Remember, "There are no stupid questions". Sure it would take some time, but I also think that if we started now, we would have a major head start for the 2016 elections. What's the point of pursuing something important if we're just going to complain that it's too hard? Forget that, and let's just pool all of our resources/talents/ideas, and take it for what it is. Something really big could come out of this, but we'll never know if we don't try.

As I stated before, this needs to be a labor of love before anything else if we plan on seeing this through to reality. Right now, my purpose of this post was to gauge interest and support in participation of the actual creation of this project.

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Sorry. I meant to be

Sorry. I meant to be encouraging Ecard, by saying it was a great idea. I was just making the point that the detail involved is immense. I'm very interested, and would consider helping in some way. Research is sort of my area. I'm also pretty good at conceptualizing ideas.

Not to be a Debbie Downer, BUT just a word of advice. Usually there are tons of people up front who are "excited to help." Most of them won't show up when work is involved.

For example, I applied for $300,000 grant from the Department of Justice (my pre-libertarian days). The project was time consuming, laborious, and difficult. I had six people tell me they were "in." Once the work started, no one showed. I applied for the grant and got it without them.

If you are determined, don't let anyone stop you.

No apology necessary - you were simply warning me of a FACT -

and it's very appreciated. I realize what's to expect as far as how much work and time is involved. I also appreciate the "heads up" regarding the "commitment" from people as I know what you mean. It's kind of like having friends only to later find out that they're not "REAL" friends(when you need them), but more like acquaintances - lol.

I'm not going in to this blindly, only to give up because I didn't know how much work and time consuming it would be. And it certainly would be a lot easier and quicker with experienced people on board to handle different projects they're good at. Other than sharing this project with others here, it's part of the reason why I offered and asked for participation. Again, I thank you for the warning and I'll keep your offer in mind when this project begins.

It is a wonderful idea! i just have no talent....

but I'd love to see it!

A children's book on Ron's life just came out, it isn't on amazon yet, though, you have to get it through the publisher for about a month. They are hoping people will donate them to schools...

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul


The publisher of the book called me on Friday with an offer to turn the book into a screenplay and submit it to a list of Hollywood producers. The price to do so is pretty steep and there is no guarantee. I can not afford to put in any more money but if as a group we could raise the money I would be happy to use this connection.

Get your Ron Paul biography for kids here... http://lionsofliberty.com/meetronpaul/

Don't bother. Go straight to

Don't bother. Go straight to 'the people' with a Kickstarter campaign. You'll keep all the rights yourself and you can sell the end product directly to people or through iTunes, or Amazon.com, or even YouTube will soon offer for-pay options.

Though enticing - my fear of hollywood is that they will

distort and/or sensationalize facts. I don't think Ron Paul deserves that. Otherwise, I'd love it and wish you luck.