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...sorry for feeding the trolls guys. I made a BIG mistake.

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here's the whole chat log

here's the whole chat log domesticated animal is referring to. it doesn't copy user names so youll have to follow along.

2:26 PM
ur name is not something nystrom would approve. ur disrespecting his property

2:26 PM
Bill you're a communist.
Mind your own business.

2:26 PM
he just voiced concerns about how chat cant be controlled or monitored and could be used to promote terrorism

2:26 PM
why would u use that name
r u stewpid

2:26 PM
he did?

2:26 PM

2:26 PM
show me the comment?

2:26 PM
theres a whole thread for it

2:26 PM
it was a post

2:26 PM
Link it.

2:27 PM
do ur own werk
its unlawful to make others google for u
called 'does anyone use chat'
or smthn

2:28 PM
I would appreciate reading the owner's thoughts if someone would be kind enough to link it for me.

2:28 PM
stop being a moron

2:29 PM
here domestic

2:29 PM
ty Repo
This post is from before I changed the name.
it does not mention "domestic terrorist" does it?
I don't see it at first glance.

2:30 PM
are u unable to distinguish from a general concept and a specific instance

2:30 PM
No Bill I'm not able to see how your twisted mind has made this work to back up your invalid claims.

2:30 PM

So because I have a different chat name

all of the sudden NOW (not before when I was vinceableworld) now I'm going to "promote terrorist" whatever... but not before?

Twisted... and now I'm enabling you.


haha you idiot.

haha you idiot.

As many people have already

As many people have already said the name does not bother ME, your on a site where your more likely to get laughs then not, in understanding what your trying to say, but in the heights, if im not being overly paranoid, governments are on the cusp of creating a domestic terrorist threat, im already hearing whispers, i have no doubt that if they are, the only thing that stops them, is them thinking "can we get away with this"

They'll see the name, play down the joke, and tell the sheep "these are the people", portraying you as their version of terrorist, which will then reflect on all, in the generalisation they like to do........;at the same time everyone here, will know the joke for what it is

Keep the name, wear it proud with defiance, let them use it if they so choose, but remember, were all in this together, what one does, may affect all.........keep it brother if you want, i have a morbid curiosity in seing it happen, and not happen, .....weird *shrugs

Just trying to explain my reasons, my thought process, im not trying to attack you, in case you take it that way, if you do, i pre emptively apologize, this basic right is your choice, i dont think anyones argueing that HERE, just debating both sides to a.......insert debate of choice



Something to say Bill?

This is all because of a chat room?


how embarrassing when you consider 80,000 visitors came to the site today.

Histrionic personality disorder

Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriately seductive behavior, usually beginning in early adulthood. These individuals are lively, dramatic, vivacious, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. HPD affects four times as many women as men.[1] It has a prevalence of 2–3% in the general population, and 10–15% in inpatient and outpatient mental health institutions.[2]

HPD lies in the dramatic cluster of personality disorders.[3] People with HPD have a high need for attention, make loud and inappropriate appearances, exaggerate their behaviors and emotions, and crave stimulation.[3] They may exhibit sexually provocative behavior, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and can be easily influenced by others. Associated features include egocentrism, self-indulgence, continuous longing for appreciation, and persistent manipulative behavior to achieve their own needs.


People with HPD are usually high-functioning, both socially and professionally. They usually have good social skills, despite tending to use them to manipulate others into making them the center of attention.[4] HPD may also affect a person's social and/or romantic relationships, plus their abilities to cope with losses or failures. They may seek treatment for Clinical depression when romantic (or, other close personal) relationships end.

Individuals with HPD often fail to see their own personal situation realistically, instead dramatizing and exaggerating their difficulties. They may go through frequent job changes, as they become easily bored and may prefer withdrawing from frustration (instead of facing it). Because they tend to crave novelty and excitement, they may place themselves in risky situations. All of these factors may lead to greater risk of developing clinical depression.[5] Additional characteristics may include:

Exhibitionist behavior
Constant seeking of reassurance or approval
Excessive sensitivity to criticism or disapproval
Pride of own personality and unwillingness to change, viewing any change as a threat
Inappropriately seductive appearance or behavior of a sexual nature
Using somatic symptoms (of physical illness) to garner attention
A need to be the center of attention
Low tolerance for frustration or delayed gratification
Rapidly shifting emotional states that may appear superficial or exaggerated to others
Tendency to believe that relationships are more intimate than they actually are
Making rash decisions[4]
Blaming personal failures or disappointments on others
Being easily influenced by others, especially those who treat them approvingly
Being overly dramatic and emotional[6]

Some histrionics change their seduction technique into a more maternal/paternal style as they age.

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

Got a point?

Gotta love these kinds of comments where they IMPLY something but they don't wanna come right out and say it... just want others to believe it.

Another Michael

The only fear I have is that the government will try to use that name to label us all! But,...I have read that we were all considered possible domestic terrorists if we ascribed to Dr Paul's liberty message, were Christian, followed the belief that there would be a second coming of Christ, blah, blah, blah. All of this was in the memo that was sent to the Missouri State Police, a couple of years ago.

Come to think of it,I guess your name does not bother me at all!

Your DP name

I find the name offensive to You. If someone was calling you a "turd" and you knew you weren't a "turd" why would you want to go by the name "turd". If you want to keep the name that's cool but I think labeling yourself with a derogatory name isn't making the point that your trying to achieve.

The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it-Andrew Jackson

Here's how I see it.

The government takes our words... re-defines them and then SCARES us out of using them anymore. How many people are afraid to say the word "Sovereign?"

I'm sick and tired of them labeling us and then we have to sit there and defend ourselves and explain why we aren't "domestic terrorists" - so I just decided to say screw it. Why don't you either prove I'm a domestic terrorist in a court of law or do what you gotta do.

Drone bomb my arse.

Domestic terrorist doesn't mean anything. There's no such thing. There have however been some very encouraging and unexpected conversations as a result of me using this name... as a matter of fact I had a really nice long one with PauliceOfficer:


I've always thought of

I've always thought of guberment as the domestic terrorists. Are you from the guberment?

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Yes I am from the government.

In this country the government is "we the people."

No doubt, from the Department

No doubt, from the Department of Domestic Terrorists, aye...

Speak for yourself. Maybe "You the People". I do not participate. This is not my government.

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Is there some reason you can't ask Michael this privately?

...rather than once again making a thread to broadcast a quarrel with another member?

no one objected to anything

he's just annoyed his zany name hasn't received as much attention as he thought it would so now he's inventing a controversy that he hopes will garner him some more attention.

at best the guy is a crank at worst he's a trap.

Just want to say that's really depressing

that five people upvoted your wild unsubstantiated accusation.

...then people give me crap because of "conspiracy theories."

well now you know

how the people you've launched wild unsubstantiated accusations against in the past feel. Except maybe they had good reason to be hurt whereas with you it's just the truth stinging you.

That shark guy you branded a govt op etc. He obviously wasn't but you tried destroy the guy nonetheless. A guy, I might add, that I often disagreed with but someone who I think was a far more honest character than you.

I said a long time ago that you are a very suspicious guy and I stand by that. I couldn't care less if you downvote me so save yourself the bother of firing up all those browsers. The game is up. Name change 4 coming up.

i have the same thought

every time one of these pop up.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

and I guess according to the 13 upvotes on this comment

thoughts are now hard cold facts.


14 people

tired of childish behavior is what it tells me.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul




Some one is bitching about your name? When I first saw your name in the comments on some post I thought it was pretty funny because I understood that it was intended to be ironic.

::sigh:: Guess it's about time for me to take a leave from DP again and just go back to the occasional lurking. I suppose I just don't have the patience for all the pissing and moaning over trivial bullshit. :/

I'm reaching up and reaching out.
I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out.

Yeah obviously I would normally tell em to pound sand...

however everything was "Michael thinks this" or "Michael wants that" and trying to blame my DP name for the reason Michael wants to close the chat.

Obviously the ones down-voting don't want to put their DP identity behind their intolerance of free speech.

So that's two votes for free speech. Thank you. Unless Michael or one of the mods weighs in here we got the full scope of our rights. We're obviously consenting to play by DP rules by joining but for the most part they keep it pretty constitutional around here.

I've checked out the chat a

I've checked out the chat a few times and every time I did it was just a few people talking computer shit that was over my head and/or people being assholes to one another trying to see who could throw the best insults.

It's really that kind of juvenile bullshit that leads me to taking long breaks from engaging in any kind of online forums and just going to lewrockwell.com and my other staple alternative sites to check out the news. Even just reading through comments, whether here or on any other site, can be incredibly draining. I love the internet for so many reasons, but its biggest drawback for me is that people tend to forget that there is a human being behind that screen name. I don't think that means sugar coating everything or not calling people out when they are being ridiculous, but I always try not to say anything that I wouldn't say to the person if they were standing in front of me and I try to avoid personal attacks. The anonymity of the web can bring out the worst in otherwise very good people unfortunately.

I'm reaching up and reaching out.
I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.
Spiral out.

Makes no difference to me personally

Did you change your name out of defiance, because that's what some government entity decided that's what you represent? That's like agreeing with them isn't it? What about calling yourself Domestic Patriot instead? I don't know you, but since you're part of this community, I'm assuming that'd be more reflective of what you represent, no?

Personally, I have no problem with your name - but, have you considered the ramifications? For one example; Say I'm a black man in the 50's, in the South, and I decide to call myself a nigger because that's what some oppressive entity(government,society,etc.) DECIDED to label me as such. Isn't that EMPOWERING them and REINFORCING their chosen label for you? I completely understand that YOU know "who and what" you are/represent, but what are you accomplishing by doing so?

Another example; Countless new visitors come to the DP to see what it's about. What do you think their 1st impression would be if they see a name such as yours? Is it possible that they may think, "Gee, the gov't/msm was right. These people ARE extremists/dangerous/terrorists" -take your pick. And while I will add that if people are going to judge, it should be according to their content and not their name, remember that many are not completely awake yet and simply curious about what Ron/Rand/Libertarians are about.

Since you mentioned free speech, maybe your name change had nothing to do with defiance. But you should always weigh the possible consequences of those actions/words.

I wasn't one of the people that down-voted you, and by your post, I assume you already have your suspicions. But don't you think this would have been more appropriately posted in the mods section instead of making a thread about it? Or are you actually looking for people to vote on it since you mentioned respecting the communities' wishes???

Thanks for your questions.

I think a good answer to all of those questions is... as scary as it is all this demonization of us... I simply want to demonstrate that I for one... am not going to allow that fear to paralyze me.

"Fear is to warn us of the danger, not make us afraid of it." ~ Duncan McCleoud, The Highlander

"Domestic Terrorist" is an oxy-moron. There is no such thing. A domesticated animal is one that's not going to bite you every time you turn around. "domestic" basically means "docile" and "terrorist" means someone who commits violence for a political purpose.

So how can someone be "violently docile?"

It's the same thing as "sovereign citizen" - sovereign is a king, citizen is a subject. How can you be a "king subject?"

If people who are uninformed and instead eat up all the crap that SPLC/FBI/DHS - I WANT THEM TO zero right in on me and find out what all these "domestic terrorists" are all about because I will set them straight on the lunacy of just putting those two words together in the same phrase.

So that's 1 in the "free speech" column. Thank you for your response.

"Domestic" means home and

"Domestic" means home and family, the home. It has nothing to do with docile, or temperament. Domestic violence is violence that happens at home, within the family. Domestic terrorism is terrorism that happens within the home country, as opposed to terrorism from a foreign country. From where you define domestic to mean docile, must be the dictionary from between the ears...

To domesticate an animal is to tame it. But that is but one definition of domestic. Certainly not the correct definition when talking about domestic violence, or domestic terrorism.

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

I understand what you're saying and

where you're coming from, and completely agree with everything you just wrote. And in a perfect world, I would agree that that is the best approach. But, THEREIN lies the problem. The world we live in is full of people that judge a book by its cover. It's all about perception. Take some normal guy and then dress him up in your stereo-typical gang-banger outfit with saggy jeans and all, and stick him in a well-off to do neighborhood. You and I both know that the cops are going to be called for him simply walking down the street. Same goes for someone exercising their 2nd amendment rights and openly carrying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lGbrCLokcI
In both prior scenarios, no laws are being broken. But as I said before, the reality is that we don't live in a perfect world. And while I applaud your desire to change that through shock/curiosity, I think you're going to turn more people off in the process, and give the detractors more ammunition to use against us, than actually bring people in. So the bottom line question is; Are you actually doing MORE good than harm???

"If people who are uninformed and instead eat up all the crap that SPLC/FBI/DHS - "I WANT THEM TO" zero right in on me"

You're better off printing out a t-shirt with the words "I'm a Domestic Terrorist". BELIEVE ME, I ALSO "WISH" they would come up to you and say, "Hey, what's up with the shirt/name?", and then you could school them, but it's not gonna happen. Realistically, you may get some cranky old man looking for conversation, but you're not going to wake many people up. Most people will NOT come up to you for discussion/debate/enlightenment. They'll just do what most of society does and judge you(negatively) without knowing you - or even want to get to know you. As I said before, it's all about perception and this is the sad reality of the world we live in at the moment.

If you really want to wake people up, I suggest printing up a bunch of pamphlets and distributing them to as many doors as you can. A pamphlet with the title "Are YOU a Domestic Terrorist?" and information from the following articles:





All those lump Christians, gun-owners, cash-payers, flag-wavers, bumper stickers, Pro-Constitutionalists, etc.