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It Finally Occurred To Me. XIII ! 1913 ! 2013 ! All Of The 14th Amendment And Others On, Have Failed The USA !

I was naively, although TOTALLY wrong.

I used to believe in the legitimacy of some provisions of the 14th Amendment.

I have NO DOUBTS any more:

this is ALL WRONG.

The abortion of the American idea started with the 14th Amendment. The process only continued and amplified itself after that one.

The U.S. Constitution ought to have remained with ONLY the first 13 amendments.

We CAN NOW SEE every new day that the installment of the 14th Amendment and a central Federal government HAVE FAILED liberty and the American idea.

The United States of America LOST THEIR UNIQUENESS with the 14th Amendment.

I am so UTTERLY sorry for YOU, America, now that I can still see it, even in BLINDING LIGHT !


This was / is THE DISGRACE !

What we are experiencing today IS NO DIFFERENT OF WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERY SINGLE OTHER country and its People...

... before the founders' AMERICA.

Our fight is actually about bringing back the United States of America to... XIII !

The golden number of the United States of America's foundations.

The abandon of this number HAS BEEN AND STILL IS the root of all evil towards America's DOOM if the People cannot reinstate it !

If the USA are to be born again, one day, this WILL HAVE TO BE WITHOUT any Federal government.

WITHOUT anything but the first XIII Amendments.

X I I I !

Just sharing my BELIEF.

This realization took 4 years to your Frenchman, here.

Bear with me.


The most powerful lines ever written for liberty, justice, and prosperity, after the U.S. Constitution's articles, and to which NOTHING should have ever been added :

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.


Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

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Doesn't Matter

We are all forced subjects to the queen of England anyway. Lower case or not. Never really won the war of independence. What a joke.


Bruce Ray Riggs

Has done an incredibly vast amount of work exposing the 14th amendment and also pacinlaw.org put out a book many years ago, an entire book called the "Red Amendment" that pulled apart every sentence and detailed what every combination of words really means.

Your post agrees with my research... one thing though... as the commenter below spoke of... there's actually a constitution and a set of corporate by-laws that looks like the constitution.

The constitution has 13 amendments (still).

The corporate by-laws (counterfeit constitution basically) has 27.

which constitution

the Constitution for the united States of America



Cyril's picture

Maybe I'm confused,

Maybe I'm confused, but I usually refer to the country as the "United States of America" and to the constitution as the "U.S. Constitution" or the "United States Constitution". And that's it.

Now, as a fresh immigrant, I more than welcome anyone, citizen knowing better than I do, who'd be kind enough to fix my misunderstanding(s).

I confess it took me a while to understand by which process the Article 1, Section 10, for instance, is by now practically disregarded/ignored by the People's representatives and the government - in all three branches - themselves.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius


the second line does not include "Of America" - it is the "Constitution of the United States"

Additionally - if you look up the actual constitution in the archives you will find out that the "U" is actually capitalized on the original constitution. The lower case "u" appears to be some disinformation that was put out but nobody bothered to actually go look up the document to see if it was true.

Yes. I ~ X. Maybe XI & XII. Probably the original XIII .

The original XIII, Titles of Nobility. It commonly cited & referenced in law books & legal references for decades leading up to the Civil War of the USA; yet, near the time of the Civil Wary of the USA, this amedmet disappear from many referrences. It was soon replace by another, completely differenct XIII Amendment. Much debate has spun around this amendment. It still swirls today. Titles of Nobility Act (TONA) was the original amendemnt cited for some 50 years in school text books & legal references:

      The Original Thirteenth Article of Amendment
      To The Constitution For The United States

    "If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them." [ Journal of the Senate]

No emperor, king, prince or foreign power... shall hold any office of trust of profit under them... No dual citizen.

On March 12, 1819 the State of Virginia, with the enactment and publication of the laws of Virginia, became the 13th and FINAL state required to ratify the above article of amendment to the Constitution For The United States, thus making it the Law Of The Land. With the enactment of Act No. 280, March 12, 1819, which was Voted, En Bloc, and publication of the Revised Code, the State of Virginia notified the Department of State, the Congress, the Library of Congress, and the President of their action by issuing to each a copy of the Laws of Virginia. [See VA 1819 Images] . In fact, the Journal of the Virginia Senate; Tuesday, May 1st, 1810 (Pages 511-512 shows that the resolution to amend was properly enrolled and ratified on that date by the Virginia House and Senate, to be laid before the President of the United States, therefore the first state to ratify.

This Article of Amendment is intimately connected to questions of loyalty, honesty, war and national defense. It is designed to combat internal subversion and discord sowed by people who are adhering to powers foreign to the Congress of the United States without stepping across the bold Constitutional line of treason. The authors of the TONA wrote it after some additional experience with how the British Empire, as well as other European nations, actually conduct their affairs. It is a corrective and supplemental measure to go along with Constitutional treason.

This Article of Amendment added an enforceable strict penalty, i.e., inability to hold office and loss of citizenship, for violations of the already existing constitutional prohibition in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 on titles of nobility and other conflicts of citizenship interest, such as accepting emoluments of any kind for services or favors rendered or to be rendered, and is particularly applicable today in the 21st Century as government is increasingly FOR SALE to the highest bidder, as foreign nations and multinational corporations and individuals compete to line the pockets of politicians and political parties to accommodate and purchase protection or privilege for their special interests, i.e. with honors, such as money or allowing dual-citizenship.

"Titles of Nobility" Did not ratify? [A sympathic, but opposing view.] The following argues that it fell one state short. (State of Maryland conferred titles of nobility. Amendment may have fallen one state short. Decades of citations were mistaken): The "Missing Thirteenth Amendment": Constitutional Nonsense and Titles of Nobility
http://www.thirdamendment.com/missing.html (Scholarly written & referenced):

    The Federalist, Alexander Hamilton wrote:
    Nothing need be said to illustrate the importance of the prohibition of titles of nobility. This may truly be denominated the corner stone of republican government; for so long as they are excluded, there can never be serious danger that the government will be any other than that of the people.(4)

The Constitution prohibited the federal government(5) and the states(6) from granting titles, and persons holding any office of profit or trust from accepting a foreign title without the consent of Congress.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Keep in mind that

US citizens are government employees. A citizen OF the United States is someone bound by OATH or AFFIRMATION to the constitution.

The thirteenth basically re-stated and elaborated on Article 1 section 10 clause 7 which can be used for the same purposes.

Government would have you believe all sorts of conflicting tales

In their narrations, they cast themselves with nearly all the speaking parts. What I keep in mind is highly variable. And diminishing.

    When I was younger I could remember anything, whether it happened or not; but my faculties are decaying, now, & soon I shall be so I cannot remember any but the latter. It is sad to go to pieces like this, but we all have to do it. - original manuscript in the Mark Twain Papers as reprinted in Quotable Mark Twain by R. Kent Rasmussen

Cherished memories include much of the former.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul