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Are You Proud To Be An American?

Thank God I'm an American blessed to live in this great country with a Constitution designed to protect my God given Rights. People often complain about their country here but I stand by the best country in the world, my country, America.

Some outsiders have tried to label Libertarians as people who hate their country but that couldn't be farther from the truth in my case. I love this country; Who else loves their country?

Are you proud to be an American?

EDIT: I found good insight in this quote,

"The patriot says, 'I love my country,' works for its good, and defends it if necessary – against enemies within and without. He strives and prays not primarily that God will bless his country, but that his country will bless God. The nationalist, meanwhile, says, 'My country is better than yours.' 'My country is the greatest there has ever been.' 'The greatest nation on God’s green earth.' 'They hate my country because it is so good.' -- Historian John J. Dwyer"

http://the-classic-liberal.com/love-country-fear-government/



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If Great Grandpa hadn't lobbied for the Federal Reserve

If Great Grandpa hadn't lobbied for the Federal Reserve then there would have been no financing of these two pointless wars.

John Denson. Those whow would say No to War.

Free includes debt-free!

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Stopping Wilhelm and Hitler was pointless????

Surely there was some merit in stopping the Nazis. Maybe not for dropping the bombs on Japan but I would think stopping Hitler would be a good reason for anyone go to war.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

The Federal Reserve loaned the gold that made Japan and Germany

When the 20 year note came due the US sent in the repo men.

War is a Racket. Major General Smedley Butler USMC, 1933.

War replaces the rule of law with the law of the jungle. How can good come it it, ever?

Free includes debt-free!

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Absolutely nothing

Except the American Revolution, but that was a defense war and the MIC didn't exist yet.

Thanks for the truth bombs, about to hit up Amazon and do me some book ordering.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Yes, the Revolutionary War was defensive.

The biggest mistake was borrowing foreign funds to finance the war.

But the Dutch banker's representative was New York banker Robert Morris.

Morris recommended Alexander Hamilton to George Washington for Secretary of Treasury.

Hamilton convinced Washington of the need for the First Bank of the US. The Charter expired in 1811 under Madison. Congress then levied war hoping to loot Canada. The Revolutionary War debt and War of 1812 debt and no loot led to the establishment of the Second Bank of the United States in 1816. By 1819 Bank machinations had plunged the US economy into Panic.

In 1835 Jackson paid off the Revolutionary and 1812 war debts to foreigners. In 1837 the back's charter expired. And as promised the banker's crashed the economy creating the Panic of 1837.

In 1837 Jackson issued the Specie Circular as an Executive Order demanding that federal lands were only for sale for Gold or Silver specie. Many Wildcat banks went out of business as depositors went to withdraw funds for gold or silver when President Van Buren enforced the Specie Circular. Wildcat Banks were bankrupt. Enforcing the Constitution uncovered many banking frauds.

The Old Republic burdened by War debt.
The New Republic was debt free at first.
The Federal Union replaced the Republic.
The Federal Union went bankrupt around 1872. Congress passed the 14th Amendment in 1868 so Bankers would loan Congress money. "Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, shall not be questioned."

National Socialism replaced the Union in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act. The Federal Reserve is a giant sponge sopping up the wealth of my countrymen for 100 years.

On the one hand I am proud of my countrymen who in good faith moved this country forward. On the other hand I wish they would reject central banking once and for all.

Tom Wood tells of men who understood the machinations of the US Banks.
http://mises.org/media/6545/Economic-Cycles-Before-the-Fed

Free includes debt-free!

My family is an old one on

My family is an old one on this continent. My ancestors fought in the revolution and the civil war. I am proud of living the benefits of those achievements. Today, I am proud of my own achievements and that of my friends and family. But my pride in my country is waning. It's about like being proud to be male or proud to be white. Dubious. Meaningless. I feel like a chump for giving almost half my income in all sorts of taxes and fees to a government that does not represent me at all. I watch a depraved population spend that money on promoting freedom from responsibility rather than the freedom of man. I like the idea of being proud of my country. One day I hope I can be again. But I am proud of your handle. Jack Daniels is the finest whiskey ever made, in Tennessee or anywhere.

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Likewise, I feel much the same way

It's getting harder, but this is America darn it.

It is like being proud of being white and that's a shame. It's also a shame I can't say I'm proud to be white. Guess what? I am proud to be white. I'm not racist or hateful but I'm proud of my heritage. I refuse to be hateful of my own heritage because of what is politically correct.

Thanks for sharing your opinion, that's a great comment.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Seriously? Proud of being

Seriously? Proud of being white?

I can understand being proud of your parents, or your grandparents, or your heritage, whatever, but proud of the color of your skin?

Proud?

Okay, what does the color of your skin have to do with your character?

(I can't believe I have to have these conversations on the DP, I thought we were a bit more enlightened here.)

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

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I thought we weren't indoctrinated to political correctness

but to each their own.

Yes, I have white skin and I'm not ashamed of it. If gays, blacks, hispanics, and anyone else can hold a "gay pride parade" or a "black pride march" than I should be able to say I'm proud to be white without any flack for it. Yet, you seem to think it's wrong to be white.

I'm proud of my heritage, which reflects my skin color. I still think all the other skin colors are equal.

Why can people of only certain ethnicities and nationalities be proud of who they are?

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

So if one of your parents or

So if one of your parents or grandparents were black you would be less proud of your heritage?

Skin color, gender, sexual preference - these are meaningless.

Character is what counts.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

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Not at all

Honestly I don't know exactly what I am. I come from German and English names, but there are a lot of different sounding names in my family tree.

If I were black I would be proud to be black. If I were Hispanic I would be proud to be Hispanic. If I were born in another country I would be proud to be from that country.

Why does saying I'm proud to be white somehow mean that I would be less proud to be black? Must white pride be tied to white supremacy?

I'm proud to be a creation of God, and I'm proud of the temple(my body) I was given.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

America is exceptional for its Constitution, Bill of Rights ..

.. and many of the entrepreneurs, inventors and scientists that have changed the world.

Without that - this country becomes nothing special.

And we shouldn't be proud or ignorant of the destruction of all of that that is happening right in front of our faces every day.

I'm not.

...and I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm

free...err...nix that last part. :-(

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The flag still stands for freedom, and they can't take that away

I'll sing it with you!

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Not even a little bit...

The last time I traveled abroad, I used English very little as I didn't want to be noticed as American. My government and its policies have made me feel this way. I simply cannot imagine ANYONE being proud to be American anymore...proud of what? Torture? Wars? Disease? Famine? Forced innoculations? Murder? Yeah...those things sound great.

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No.7

Am I proud to be an American? Well, I am not ashamed to be an American. When I travel abroad I am not one of the Americans that tell people they are from Canada (which I don't think is wrong if that is what people want to do). I often read articles or hear people talking about how hated America is by the rest of the world. But what I think gets lost in the shuffle is that our government is hated, not us individually at least according to the people I talk to in my travels. That is just my vantage point from the experiences I have had in life. So, there is no need for me (personally) to feel ashamed about being an American.

That being said, I am still not sure ‘proud’ is the word though because the things in this life that I am proud of have little to do with where I was born. The world is made up of people. Individual people; not American people or European people. Not Asian people or African people. Just people. So it does not matter if I am American or not, again the things I am proud of in my life have little to do with being American or not.

A few comments below you state that we have the best people in the world…. How do you measure that?
Also… our history is interesting, but we have such a short history (which again… can be fun to study) but how does that qualify as the best history in the world when there is so little of it to begin with?

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Collectively, We Are The Best and I'm Proud of That

Our Grandfathers and Great Grandfathers made America back to back World War Champs. We invented the train, airplane, car, electricity, TV, computer, and almost everything else important. America produces over 1/5 of the world's GDP. We've won more gold medals than most other countries combined and we frigging played golf on the moon. Nothing beats golf on the moon....

As far as history goes, the dinosaurs, Romans, Greeks, Vikings, Ancient Chinese, and many others might have richer and greater histories than America. However out of all the present day countries that exist I lucked out getting America. This was more of a "best in the league" question than a "best of all time" question.

While not all Americans are superior to the rest of the world. Most Americans have had far superior opportunities to make themselves better. America is a lang full of exceptional people, a rich history, and a flag that stands for freedom in a Constitutional Republic. Despite all that's wrong with America, I'm still damn proud to be an American and fly old glory.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

We're no better than those

We're no better than those who live in other countries.

We happen to live in a country where a group of men, two hundred plus years ago, tried to create a government where power would be dispersed, hoping that this creation would live on and insure freedom for posterity.

But their creation has been so eroded that it no longer resembles their original intent.

This is no reason to think that we are exceptional.

Now, if those alive today were able to restore the original intent of the forefathers, then THAT would be reason to think of ourselves as exceptional.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

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Again

"Our Grandfathers and Great Grandfathers made America back to back World War Champs. We invented the train, airplane, car, electricity, TV, computer, and almost everything else important. America produces over 1/5 of the world's GDP. We've won more gold medals than most other countries combined and we frigging played golf on the moon. Nothing beats golf on the moon...."

That makes us exceptional, and I was just being funny.

Go ahead, name a better country collectively.

China sends hundreds of thousands of kids to be educated here in a system that we all think is a joke. We give more charity than any other country in the world. Believe it or not, we are the free-est citizens in the world too. Is that something to be proud of?

It's not about me an you being exceptional individuals, it's about America as a country being an exceptional country. Are you proud of the good things your country has done?

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

My country hasn't done

My country hasn't done squat.

Like I said, two hundred plus years ago a group of enlightened oligarchs tried to create a limited government that would insure freedom for subsequent generations. They had limited success. That's no reason to think of myself or of any of my present day countrymen as "exceptional".

There are exceptional people in this world, but the country into which they were born has little to do with it.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

I am proud

of America but embarrassed by my government.

I no longer believe we are exceptional...we have become too much like all the rest. Freedom, individual liberty, and the rule of law are no longer practiced here and so we are no longer exceptional.

what is an american?

someone born inside an imaginary line drawn up by a small group of people to define their sphere of coercion.

nationalism is a divisive tool used to control people.

not saying your wrong to be proud of the spirit and philosophy. you should covet the knowledge and insight of the founders. there's no reason you can't continue their work.

if america is anything, it's the individual and NOT the government. which should be regarded with nothing other than contempt.

so am i proud to be an american, no.
does that make me an american? probably.

I'd like to know who's actually an American.

If you check most online forums, you'll find a wave of hate coming from the UK, Canada, and Australia. What I'd REALLY like to know is, are these same people free to post here at the DP while masquerading as Americans?

Boy, that's a loaded one....

I am in awe of the *intention* of our forefathers/mothers to try to set up a free and just system / society. To say I am proud would be to take credit, which I cannot.

I am grateful for the Constitution, and for the best components of the States' Constitutions and the whole difficult processes through which we were given the Constitution, which may be one of the greatest gifts to humanity.

The reeking failures are legion, however. And the hypocrisy. From the very beginning. Oh, and the visitation of the most brutal, sustained, and devastating genocide on Native Cultures. Theft. Rape. Murder. Betrayal. All makes slavery look like Disneyland in comparison.

Our history /legacy / tradition of destruction reaches far and wide throughout the world. Is it "ours" / we the people's? We don't even know half of it. But it is OURS, and on our heads be it, as we've allowed it to continue, even while often cheering it on. We've been duped by a relative few. Easiest slaves to manage are slaves who believe they are free, yaddah yaddah.... I suppose a "free" country was always going to be more easily taken over by thieves / tyrants with money.

FACT: We have much for which to atone. Our "country's" karma is in the direst condition of health. Bloody hands. Too much evil perpetrated in the name of good. If we are--as too many people want to believe--a Christian nation, then we are the WORST collection of so-called Christians that has perhaps ever been.

Buck up, folks. We deserve some serious rough times, and if we can come out the other end in a better civic condition (ie: in truer adherence to Constitutional values) and even some state of Spiritual Enlightenment (NOT religious / Christian / Hindu / Judaic / etc., but truly *Spiritual*) then perhaps we will have earned the privilege to try to set up a Free Country again. I hope we can.

What would the Founders do?

I am proud of individualism

and I am proud of an individual man, no matter what country he or she resides, who achieved something in his life rather than whining, b[i]tching or preying on taxpayers money. I am proud about Chinese engineers who build awesome bridges and proud about African doctors who work in dreadful conditions rather than building a survival storage, buying more guns, and hoarding few silver coins.

I am proud of my country's

I am proud of my country's constitution. I am ashamed that scarcely anyone in congress or the presidential branch wants to uphold it, and ashamed of my countrymen for voting for them. I am also astonished at the things the Supreme Court finds in the Constitution that aren't there. Who knew that congress can force us to do anything it wants just by imposing a tax if we don't? We now "know" that that is one of congress' enumerated powers, thanks to Justice Roberts.

Are you an American?

Like I mentioned above, I'd like to know who's actually an American, and since you're saying that you're "ashamed of my countrymen", you're implying that you're an American.

Yet, when I look at your posted articles there's no image of a state represented? Am I missing some tab so that I can figure out if you are what you say you are?

I think it would cut down on the confusion and disinformation @ the DP by making a persons state of origin clear. Sorry if you're an American. It's not meant to be an attack and I can understand your shame, but you should be able to understand my confusion.

I'm a Washingtonian. (Yep. It's legal) It's fertile ground to sew the seeds of liberty.

EDIT: Sorry, I found an image associated with your article.

http://www.dailypaul.com/217109/a-smart-11-year-old

MA in the house?

Yes, I am an American. I

Yes, I am an American. I don't see why the state I live in is relevant to this discussion. Anywhere you live in this country the odds are that most of the other people in your state will vote for the usual statists, of either party. We Ron Paul advocates have been painted as oddballs and freaks (if not downright "dangerous") whether we're in a red state or a blue one.

You missed the point I was trying to make.

How can I tell if somebody is even an American?

Do foreigners post here masquerading as Americans? If you look around the web, you'll notice a wave of hate coming from Canada, the UK, and Australia.

I welcome the posts, but I say they should be put into context since what we're talking about is American politics, especially when there are people advocating revolt and violence.

They should be held to account.

Dude, check a map. Canada is

Dude, check a map. Canada is in North America, just like the US.

I'm a citizen of the US, a Virginian to be precise, but it irks me to no end to see other US citizens refer to only those living in the US as "Americans".

Perhaps you missed the third grade. Assuming so, here's a qick geography lesson.

There's North America, Central America and South Ametica. All persons living on any of these land masses are just as right to refer to themselves as Americans as is your sorry ass.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein