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Rand Paul Endorses Immigrant Path to Citizenship

By ERICA WERNER | Associated Press | Mar 19, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vunnml2V8RY

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky is endorsing a pathway to citizenship for the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants, a significant move for a favorite of tea party Republicans who are sometimes hostile to such an approach.

In a speech to be delivered Tuesday morning to the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, the potential 2016 presidential candidate declares, "If you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you." A copy of the speech was obtained in advance by The Associated Press.

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What a Surprise...

...you missed it (likely deliberately) by a country mile.

Keep on keeping on.

It's doubtful I missed your intent

Bigots are as easy to read as a two-page book.

So are

idiots.

LOL...

Ad hominem with zero substance, coupled with a beautiful illustration of Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

Pretty much sums up you in this instance.

Priceless....

Just because I really, really want to see you back up your ad hominem 'bigot' charge, please specify anything that I posted that you 'feel' supports your assertion.

I am waiting...again and you've shown your ass...yet again.

You just can't make this stuff up.

You appear to be grasping

Sometimes name-calling is called-for and not at all ad hominem. It is you, not I, who have yet to validate their argument regarding immigration.

Try again. Use your big-boy words if you can.

Uh, I Never MADE...

...an argument to you regarding immigration. Just so you know.

I do not desire to spend time fleshing out the salient issues related to 'illegal aliens' with you, since your position is clear and it is contrary to mine.

Do you expect to change my reasoned assessment which is based on first-hand knowledge and experience? Do you believe that I would change your 'feelings' and beliefs on the matter?

Why bother then....

This is simply another fine example of your failing to grasp what was a simple 'analogy' which succinctly illustrated the 'illegal alien' infestation, in context.

Perhaps you should go back and read over the series of posts, beginning with the initial one I made the analogy on.

It may assist you in catching up.

Now, back to the dodge you made reference your charge of bigotry.

You do know what 'ad hominem' is, right?

It's what you're attempting because you have no logical argument

It's an appeal to emotion like the one you were trying so desperately to pull off in the first place with "...ooh, I'm-a gonna bring my tribe to take over your home" scare-tactic laughability.

I had already destroyed your pathetic argument about wanting to barge into my residence with a simple "You make no sense," so things fell back to the sad excuse of "...they want to come in and take all the otherwise totally sustainable welfare benefits away from us european descendents, so I'll make some high-school caliber analogy about people trying to 'live in your home, smart guy, eating all your stuff and demanding free care' and then pretend that I'm not only on the same level but somewhat above." So I called it as it obviously is, nothing ad hominem about it.

Like a two-page book...

Maybe so...

just saying that the way this AP article presented Rand's position is extremely misleading.

All immigration is inherently legitimate

There is, on the other hand, no such thing as a citizen.

That's a load of

BS (that all immigration is legitimate and there is no such thing as a citizen.) If you believe these ideas, you are a fool.

"The piece of paper is rule of law"

"The piece of paper is rule of law because the piece of paper says so."

"Obey the piece of paper!"

"Citizen!"

"Subject!"

I'm sorry my previous comment

I'm sorry my previous comment was emotion based. I wouldn't let my family live in third world poverty. We have almost no legitimate way for impoverished people to get to this country. The laws of man are nothing in comparison to god given rights.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless,
Tempest-tossed to me
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

So this should read NO vacancy?

This is great news!!!

Play da game RAND!!!

Haters gonna hate!!!

It is right

to hate and despise freeloaders, law-breakers, immoral persons, invaders, squatters, thieves and scum.

haha. get over it. republicans like me are taking over.

BOOOOOM!!!

The Republican party is dying...

and taking you, TXcarlosTX, with it. There will be a new party before too long and my guess is you will not like the look of it. If you behave as our enemy, Carlos and similar, expect to be treated as such. By the way, the Hispanic birth rate is plummeting in the US and worldwide -- just in case you were pinning your hopes for "reconquista" on that.

With Rand

Its always one step forward and two steps back. I think the best solution is to send all illegal aliens back to the country where they came from.

Yes, send them back

to their own country. We only have our own country to call home. Illegal aliens can and must go back to their own country because they are unwelcome and are creating a lot of problems for us in our home. Foreign citizens have the choice to go home. In America, we are already home and should not be expected to be pleased about squatters taking over that home.

Or lock 'em up...

...with the pot smokers, right?

No pot and hemp should be

No pot and hemp should be legalized.

Well, then I'm confused...

A peaceful illegal, like the pot smoker, harms no one. Yet, you want to deport one while allowing another freedom.

Like smoking pot, the act of crossing some govt, arbitrarily-imposed border is a peaceful act. It harms no one.

Why do you support committing aggression (deportation) against a peaceful human being?

Yes, you ARE confused, gee blee, and

foolish. Your kind of logic is what Emerson meant when he wrote, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."

i don't think the NAP is foolish

Emerson sounds like a real hypocrite to me.

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Perhaps Rand Can Also Help Us

... open up an easier emigrant pathway to expatriation. It seems more inviting every day. (Wave to the new suckers coming in as you depart to rediscover freedom elsewhere).

Immigration

and gay issues should be put at the back burner when capitalism is restored - welfare ends, heterosexual pride parade is allowed.

Today, illegals work in an environment close to free-market capitalism. They keep all money they earn. The only disadvantage is that government regulations and subsidies make prices for education, housing and medical treatment way too high to afford. Instead of moving illegals toward corporatism, we need to move Americans toward free-market capitalism. Milton Freidman was very good at explaining this.

Rand Paul had failed twice today - on abortions and immigration. The public went ape against Rand in media chatrooms. And rightfully so.

My Family

My family came through Ellis Island for a better life! People today should be awarded the same privilege. Tell your white kid to go dig a ditch! What he won't stop playing video games?

Is your comment...

...necessary? Really? Race baiting on the dailypaul. "Tell your white kid to go dig a ditch!" I'll tell you what, ease on over to CBS, ABC, CNN, or Fox and leave your comment there. You will find the level of intelligence in the comment section of any story of any of those news outlets more to your suiting, sub-standard, lacking integrity, and slightly above that of a potato. Good day.

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Ronald Reagan made the same mistake.

He supported the Simpson Mazzoli Act which gave amnesty to approximately 3 million illegal immigrants. Without a doubt, this gave a green light to the 12 million additional illegals who've come to the U.S. And again, immigration reform is being pushed under the guise of compassion. But was it compassionate for Simpson Mazzoli to encourage 12 million more illegals to come here and live in legal limbo? And how many thousands have died crossing deserts and oceans because they too thought amnesty was possible? Is it compassionate to use amnesty, or any path to permanent residency in the U.S., to encourage actions that lead to death? The only compassionate option is to enforce existing law, thereby discouraging potentially fatal choices.

And lets be clear, globalization is all about creating a new world order by destroying the sovereignty of nation states, this includes immigration reform which is a direct attack on the rule of law, U.S. sovereignty, the integrity of citizenship, and solvency of the U.S. government. So it's no surprise that globalists at the Wall Street Journal have for years, editorialized in favor of illegal immigration. You can find a post on immigration reform by clicking on the link to "Resist gun control".

http://www.dailypaul.com/277342 (Rand Paul: One person can make a difference)
http://www.StandUpForYourRights.me/?p=1264 (Fast and Furious hearing)

The Libertarian "Blue Card Solution" is best

Its time that RAND PAUL come out for the "BLUE CARD" with Mexico and any-other participating countries.

Recall, the Blue Card is not the Green-Card, It does not make you a US-citizen or any citizen. With a Blue Card you get to keep your citizenship, yet work and live in another country. US Citizens need exactly that BLUE CARD when they work and live in say Hong Kong, or Singapore or Mexico, or anywhere in the world.

Recall also that the number of BLUE CARDS is tied to the number from the participating country. Say one million US Citizens who want to live and work in Mexico so then Mexico issues these US citizens Blue Cards to live there. (believe it or not there is over a million US citizens who live in Mexico, many retires. There are thousands and thousands of US citizens living in Cost Rica for example.) And because one million US Citizens are living in Mexico with a BLUE CARD, so the INS issues out 1 million Blue Cards to Mexicans who want to live and work in the USA.

The Blue Card is a middle way. It allows for relatively free emigration and immigration. It allows people to live and work and yet at the same time is stops "over immigration" whereby a flood of foreign people overwhelm the host country. For example, if China, with 1.5 billion people strong has just 1% of its people wanting to come to the USA that would be 15 million Chinese. Now that is not an unreasonable guess at the number of Chinese that would both want to come to the USA and have the funds to do so. Today, there are over 1 million Chinese millionaires. The USA,with its 350 million people, would feel the "invasion". And that is just talking China. Then there are the billion plus in India. And lets not forget the rest of the world's countries.

So the really Big Question is, "How can countries balance both the outflow and the inflow of people, without feeling invaded? That answer is the BLUE CARD.

Its time for Rand Paul and others to start championing the libertarian BLUE-CARD idea.

For discussion, can you imagine the benefits and good positive spin-off results this can bring?

Say a country is undesirable to US citizens, yet that country has plenty that want to come to the USA. The pressure on that country grows and tries to become desirable to US citizens. Yes, all countries around the world will feel this pressure created by the BLUE-CARD System. And in the end, that is a good thing for peace and trade and harmony amongst the countries of the world.

And is the BLUE CARD the 'best' solution or the 'final solution' to "illegal immigration"? No.... but its a start. More over lets not forget, many immigrants DO NOT WANT TO BECOME US CITIZENS but are infact forced to seek citizenship inorder to work and live. That is crazy. If your son took a 10 year job in Beijing China, should he be forced to "become Chinese citizen" in order to live and work in China? No. So while Rand Paul is talking about the "10 million Mexican illegals" let us keep in mind the fact that many, if not most, do not want to "become" US Citizens, but are rather forced to do so in order to live and work here.

Treg

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Here. http://www.politico.com

Here.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/rand-paul-immigration-...

While it has been widely reported that Paul backed a pathway to citizenship, the Kentucky Republican never used the word “citizenship” in his speech. Instead, he argued for a solution besides “amnesty or deportation” and said conservative Republicans should start by “acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.”

In a statement, Paul spokeswoman Eleanor May said Paul’s plan was not a path to citizenship.