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PJTV: Racist Libertarians Have No Place in Modern Conservative Movement

Zo has strong words for neo-confederate libertarians, especially those who infiltrated the CPAC conference. He reminds viewers why some libertarians have no place in the conservative movement, and why Republicans should embrace the vision of Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass.

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Glad to see I may not have had visions.

Glad to see I may not have had visions.

I wasn't sure...

Strange dressing tastes.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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Fool

Shoots off his mouth about stuff he knows nothing about.

what is the old quote? By holding one's tongue, one is able to

By holding one's tongue, one is able to avoid everyone's knowing how ignorant one is! Opening one's mouth, often, proves how foolish one is! Let a person talk, long enough, and they can prove how uninformed, they really, are!

Zo Confuses Libertarians with Racism

Racism seeks collectivist segregation "We White, You're ___ "

libertarian-ism seeks individualist integration. "I have individual rights to life, liberty and property....and so do you."

Its really sad and unfortunate that Zo does not get that libertarians and that libertarianism has ZERO to do with guys like Terry White. By linking libertarianism with racism, Zo proves he just doesn't get libertarianism. Perhaps someone ought to send him over to sit down with professor Walter Williams for a day or two.

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Actually...

If you are on this site for long you start to notice a streak of racism. I'm mostly referring to racism against Jewish people. Though I haven't really noticed much else.

But the truth is that there are many neo-libertarians who believe in liberty only for those who agree with their ideology and philosophy. There is no room for debate and there is no room for differing opinions.
These neo-libertarians attack people claiming that only they have the holy, righteous and blessed opinions.

Just read half the comment sections on this site, you'll see what I'm talking about.

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SPLC/ADL nonsense

"Jewish" is not a race. Many Jewish people still have genetic traits that make them Semites. But, Palestinians, Syrians, and half of Jordan are Semites as well. Just like the Persians/Iranians are Ayrian and more closely linked to Germans than Palestinians - go figure...

Now, I agree there are some people here that are anti-Jewish-religion. But, they are all fundamentalist Christians with little regard for history or individualism (they are collectivist anyway, so not real libertarians).

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Oh please. Funny how you

Oh please. Funny how you don't see the overt racism against an actual ethnic group, the Arabs. The latter have been falsely associated with 9/11 and yet you see nothing wrong with that.

Of course

there is rampant racism against Arabs. I just don't think most people on this site are against Arabs. Or more precisely I mean people of Muslim faith.

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Taking the bait - Judaism is a racist religion

So zionism and judaism aren't racist political and religious beliefs?

Do you know anything about what you are talking about? Probably the most racist religion in the world is judaism.

http://theupliftingcrane.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/truth-abou...

Just a site I grabbed at random. I've researched it, read the original passages in full context, and found a lot more that usually isn't posted. I'm comfortable at being APPALLED at everything that isn't being reported.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I despise racism - and Judaism is at the corner of it

Judaism is the polar opposite of Christianity, which is what this country was founded on.

While Christianity believes in brotherly love, Judaism believes in racism.

Judaism is also the cornerstone of most of the occult in the society. The Talmud even discusses sacrificing their own children to Molech. Most occult practices, even non-Jewish, now use Jewish Kaballah.

I despise racism. Even racism that is supported by some of the richest people in the world - ie judaism.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Ew

I'd love to hear a Jewish DPer respond to you. Both of these posts feel sick.

Sacrificing children to Molech was NOT part of the Jewish faith, even if at some points some Israelites did do it. There is nothing I see in the Jewish faith itself that promotes racism, regardless of what the people have done. It's the same as any other religion: the faith itself promotes treating others fairly and justly, while the people do not live up to those ideals.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

But your wrong - the links have been posted many times

"Sacrificing children to Molech was NOT part"

Sorry, you're wrong. It's part of the Talmud, which is widely printed. And it wasn't sacrificing any children - it was sacrificing THEIR OWN CHILDREN. You can not get more vile.

Read it and research more. There is all sorts of abominations in Judaism. This is the big lie technique. "It can't possibly be true" isn't research.

In fact, I have a link to it on this thread right here:

Five examples of things covered up by false charges of racism
http://www.dailypaul.com/278944/five-examples-of-things-cove...

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

False connection?

There are anti-Jewish comments made by various posters sometimes. Usually there are some supporters, but the vast majority of comments are condemnations of such bigotry.

The anti-Jewish posters rarely (if ever) identify themselves as libertarians. Usually they identify with a branch of Christian/Conservative, if they give any indication of their political leanings at all.

On the other hand, well known libertarians on this site are very vocal in condemning racist and anti-Jewish comments.

Yet you make the connection that if there is a racist/anti-Jewish post that the poster is a libertarian?

If you have evidence of libertarian racists, please provide it. I've not seen it.

Maybe I'm wrong

But I assume most people who post on this site are libertarian or libertarian leaning.

I'm actually referring to many truthers who claim that jews are responsible for 911 and control the NWO and all that crap. Not saying I don't believe in the NWO, and not saying that there aren't people of Jewish decent involved. But making blanket statements that jews are evil is what is called racist.

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This site does not ask your affiliation

There are heated debates between 'libertarians' and 'conservatives' on this site. I've been here for several years and I know that on some threads the conservatives dominate, and on others it is the libertarians. I'd guess that the two influences are about 50/50.

From my perspective, the libertarians here are stridently non-racist and are careful to separate Jews (the religion or the ethnicity) from Zionism (the political movement). The conservatives, on the other hand, are more of a mixed bag. A small number take blatantly racist views and they are drowned out with disapprovals from the libertarians and the 'live and let live' conservatives.

I'm not aware that libertarians are any more "Truthers" than conservatives. I can guarantee that libertarians don't blame "The Jews," though they may take a strong position concerning Mossad and Zionism.

You're totally right

Collectively attacking ANY group is not just, let alone libertarian. Yes, individuals do evil things for any reason or excuse in the world. Attacking a group, or fully trusting anything designed to incite hate, is wrong.

Thumbed you up.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

I care not what type of pc mob-ness you put forward

It's hardly unusual that Christians would post against a non-Christian religion as cultic or occultic.

Yes, Judaism is a hell damned religion. And I care not what pc-ness you throw at me.

It's one of many. And like all man made religions, the more you look at it, the more you realize how sick it is, and how much lies the world is constructed on.

It's occultic. It's racists. It advocates murdering. It has pedophilia in it. It has child sacrifice.

AND PEOPLE WHO SAY IT IS WRONG ARE ATTACKED.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Not a libertarian, eh

Just to be clear, you don't consider yourself a libertarian, do you?

Having sex with babies, and more - Judaism the perverse

Here's an article published last year in the New York Post about a Rabbi giving a baby herpes.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/circumcisers_kiss_of_deat...

The rabbi was sucking on the babies bloody penis - apparently they chew off the dick to "circumcise" people into Judaism.

So add that on top of all the pro-pedophile quotes that are in the Talmud about having sex with babies.

I use to read this thinking there is no way this could be going on without being widely reported and condemned - that it must be being made up by "bigots"; but it isn't being made up - that is how the big lie technique works. Something so horrible it "couldn't" happen.

This is the New York Post, just last year. I have a collection of equally outrageous articles from just the last ten years from mainstream sources. Just because it isn't widely reported and condemned, doesn't mean it isn't going on.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/circumcisers_kiss_of_deat...

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Your comments probably don't even deserve a response

But your comments are so off the wall I guess I feel compelled. From wikipedia -

Suction, metzitzah

Hemostat (center) is used to keep the two layers of the foreskin together so that they are cut and removed as one. The guard (top center) is slid over the foreskin as close to the glans as possible to allow for maximum removal of the former without any injury to the latter. The scalpel is used to detach the foreskin, and the underlying blue bag is a sterilization pouch for the metal tools. The tube (center left) was used for metzitzah
In addition to milah (the actual circumcision) and priah, mentioned above, the Talmud (Mishnah Shabbat 19:2) mentions a third step, metzitzah (suction) as one of the steps involved in the circumcision rite. The above Talmud writes that a "Mohel (Circumciser) who does not suck, should be dismissed from practice".[14][15]
Rashi on the Talmud explains that this step is in order to squeeze some blood from deep inside the wound, and to prevent danger to the baby.[16]
There are modern antiseptic and antibiotic techniques—all used as part of the brit milah today—which many say accomplish the intended purpose of metzitzah, however, since metzitzah is one of the four steps to fulfill Mitzvah, it continues to be practiced by many Orthodox and Hassidic Jews.[17] Jewish groups such as the Conservative Rabbinical Assembly do not consider metzitzah to be required by Jewish law[citatio

Claims that this is at all a sexual act are extremely and utterly wrong.

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So what are you saying, that

So what are you saying, that Rabbis are not sucking on babies dicks and giving them Herpes?

That you justify it as ok says it all to me.

It's a total abomination.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

By the way, just because a

By the way, just because a Rabbi may have chewed your dick off as a kid, doesn't mean I hold anything against you.

You aren't responsible for something an adult does to you as a kid.

But I hope you might condemn this as much as I do. Judaism is well past the time it should be looked at as well as the catholic church was.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

ITS ONE OF THE MOST PERVERSE THINGS I EVER HEARD

And why weren't we ever told it was going on?

Because it's just made up stuff, probably by "anti-Judaism bigots".

But it isn't made up. And it goes on and on.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

There is a Manufactured Psychological War on White People

I'm White/Hispanic and don't know anyone who wants to kill all the Black professional sports stars. Nor are they even thinking about it.

This is why we want to prove to the race baiter's, racists, and haters we are sincere by starting this organization, we want black people, Jews, and Hispanics to have guns too, yes we do;

Guns for "White Jews and You" is a new organization dedicated to stamping out racism, ensuring your Constitutional Rights, and making sure segregation and holocausts in America never happen again.

The promotion of 2nd Amendment rights and responsible gun ownership, sponsorship of training, and free gun distribution are hallmarks of the organization. All ethnic group gun ownership is sponsored.

The name of the organization is causing some outrage, but is on purpose and is meant to make a point.

Exactly

Exactly. And it happens to coincide with flooding every white country around the world with non whites.

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Zo's logic of libertarian

Zo's logic of libertarian philosophy:
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libertarianism = founder's philosophy.
founders = racists.
libertarians = racists.

Zo's mistake:
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libertariasm <> founder's philosophy.

libertarianism = improved version of founder's philosophy, recognizing that human rights extend to ALL people regardless of race, ethnicity, gender.

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I believe everyone...

Has the right to be whatever they want...If someone wants to have "racist" thoughts or actions, that is their right...I refuse to watch this video but the headline got my attention...I only get upset with myself when I prejudge others based on any type of categorization (IE prejudice)...But I definitely don't get upset when I think about how prideful I am of my race or how I may be different from someone else based on any descriptive differences we have...And quite honestly, I would take David Duke over Obama...

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Oh. So he took a word. Applied it to a whole group

.... ie. "libertarian"

And then he attached a negative word defaming and insulting the entire imaginary group?

Awesome.

That's ra .... RAther interesting how he worked all that out.

This guy filmed at CPAC was

This guy filmed at CPAC was hardly a libertarian, so why does Zo call him one? i suspect it's because he misunderstands why certain politically active libertarians are proponents of nullification.

Rightly used, nullification can be a tool used to reduce tyranny imposed by the central government. That's the ONLY legitimate use of nullification. If it were to be used to empower states to impose tyranny, or to REimpose the tyranny of institutionalized racism as Zo likely fears - that would hardly be consistent with libertarian philosophy.

The founders made what is likely a fatal mistake (for liberty on this continent anytime soon) when they compromised on the issue of slavery in order to satisfy southern states and bring them into the fold. Slavery (via the civil war) killed the concept of states rights - an important leg of the concept of keeping power dispersed so as to maximize liberty.

Today, we live with the aftermath of the founders grand mistake - a federal leviathan, and because states retain so little power, they are all but powerless to stop it's growth.

That guys like Zo believe that a strong federal government is necessary to their rights being recognized is the tragic, ironic result of the founder's mistake.

Never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you. Fortune Cookie

Factoid

Wisconsin used nullification to oppose the Fugitive Slave Act. Nullification cuts both ways.