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Southern Poverty Law Center Urges Government to Investigate Libertarians.

The SPLC recommends homeland security investigate Alex Jones and Chuck Baldwin while training police officers to recognize their followers and the threats they pose.
The SPLC regularly works with the state and federal establishment to train police officers to identify and oppress its political enemies (1). On March 5, 2013 the SPLC ratcheted up the pressure and sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, warning them to investigate the 'Patriot Movement' as they are planning new terrorist and 'racist' attacks (2,3). In their 2012 report, the SPLC identifies the top 30 leaders of this 'Patriot Movement' as including libertarians Chuck Baldwin and Alex Jones (4).

The SPLC identifies the types of threats posed by this pair and their followers are summarized in their recent report, "Terror from the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages since Oklahoma City (2013)".(5)

(1) http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism/law-e...
(2) http://www.splcenter.org/home/splc-report-antigovernment-pat...
(3) http://www.splcenter.org/home/splc-letter-to-DOJ-DHS%20
(4) http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/br...
(5) http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-fr...

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SPLC is the implementation

SPLC is the implementation mechanism of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

I tried to head this off at the pass and FAILED

For years I cultivated a contact in SPLC and hoped that I could get us talking to each other instead of about each other. I still have the contact but I don't know how to cut through this wall of mistrust and fear.


Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

I used to think they were an interesting bunch

When I was in high school (in the 90s) I thought they were anti-racist. I just kept getting confused why they reported on tax revolts. Once their racism issue wasn't a fund raiser any more they started unabashedly pushing a purely political line.

I admire your willingness to reach out,

but the SPLC is beyond all sanity. Just walk away. You are disrespecting your time by wasting it on these hate-filled lunatics.

"All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind." - Khalil Gibran
"The Perfect Man has no self; the Holy Man has no merit; the Sage has no fame." - Chuang Tzu

Have you heard the interview linked below?

Ernest talks about his former alliance with a woman named Heidi (forget her last name at the moment), and how she cancelled future interviews after the Potok interview. I think we know who wears the pants in that organization.

Hey Mark Potok

You got your @$$ handed to you by Ernest Hancock, and now you're coming back for more? You fool!



urge the people to INVESTIGATE the racketeering going on between SPLC, the BAR association, DHS, the OBAMA administration and the CROWN CORPORATION in the CITY of LONDON.

Any time the "commander and chief" in the "war on terror" needs an "expert" on "domestic terrorists" he always calls up the SPLC. Isn't it STRANGE that there is only ONE PLACE to get this information about "domestic terrorists?"

These organizations are obviously terrified because we are aware of their crimes and are studying up on how to bring them to justice. We'll give them the due process they do not wish to afford us.


you can't go to war against everyone all at once because that is how the SPLC will use the power of the different government agencies against us. What you do is write very lucid detailed letters from US against the SPLC to investigate them. Dig up dirt on them, file lawsuits for libel and slander, and that is how you get this crazy group from having the political influence it has. Once the agencies like DHS sees that their are both groups that are powerful, and use expert opinion with well written documentation it will neutralize the threat that SPLC poses to the liberty movement. Right now even though they are tiny, SPLC has all the street cred, and since we usually flail our arms in a disorganized fashion instead of attacking them legally we are danger of actually being ivnestigated by DHS.

Their street cred comes from

Their work against racism and nazis. That's passé they have had a major race case in years now their high press moments come from targeting pundits. Now they keep an "eye on the radical right"

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Maybe we should compose a

Maybe we should compose a letter to DHS about the SPLC being a hate group. Good grief.

Make sure you click on the link below (drhifive). It has a lot of good information.

It won't work. The fix is

It won't work. The fix is in. The CEO of the SPLC consults with the DHS fusion centers. That is how we got the infamous MIAC report, which read like it came straight out of the SPLC's Intelligence Report.

it will work

if the SPLC is attacked legally from many different angles. If there are 20 pending lawsuits against potok for slander he will most likely shut up. We need people to file separate suits, restraining orders, civil suits, etc. etc. Let them drown in the paperwork.

Chuck Baldwin is no

Chuck Baldwin is no Libertarian. Do words have ANY meaning anymore?

Fair criticism

Maybe I should have said liberty movement and peleocoservatives? Although maybe a somewhat wider meaning is useful for politicking?

Chuck Baldwin

is generally considered a Paleoconservative.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Anonymous

Velveeta, for once . . .

I agree with you. Baldwin is a 'constitutionalist' (self-proclaimed), and I, too, am concerned that words no longer have meaning or that . . . the integrity of language is in deep peril--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

He was also proclaimed by Ron

He was also proclaimed by Ron Paul as the best choice in 2008 for president, because Dr. Paul endorsed Baldwin.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Not the first time I found

Not the first time I found myself in vocal opposition with the good doctor, but there were bigger fish to fry back then.

Yes, and Chuck Baldwin was

Yes, and Chuck Baldwin was one of first to endorse Ron Paul in 2008.

By the way, the Constitution Party, which nominated Chuck Baldwin for president in 2008, is itself listed as a hate group by the SPLC. I read the Constitution Party platform, and while I didn't agree with all of it, there was nothing there I would classify as "hate". I think the SPLC just hates the Constitution.

The Confused Bunch: SPLC

Well, a person who hates freedom hates himself. So, SPLC people hate themselves. SPLC folks are one confuuuuused people.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

"SPLC has become the propaganda wing of the widely reviled DHS


Must Read.

Found via zero hedge, as usual lots of food for thought in the comments.

On Morning Joe

Everyone on the panel dismissed those who feel the second amendment protects the people's right to arm themselves against government as crazy. The blonde daughter of the devil even went so far to say, "No one will be going door to door grabbing guns, we have drones now."

There is definitely a msm libertarian smear campaign occuring.

"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good."
Thomas Paine

Maybe if they investigate libertarians

They'll learn something.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

SPLC should be classified as a hate group

Their intolerance never ceases to amaze me!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Anonymous

add the ADL

dont forget to add the ADL , "anti-defamation league" with good ol ratface ABE FOXMAN!

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

They are 100% a hate group ...

the entire mission of the SPLC is advocating government force against people they hate.

This is old news

Ron Paul and support was on the watch list in the 08 campaign. The Libertarian Party been on that list for awile now. I just want the facts right from what I know Alex Jones might be a register libertarian but I dont think he is a dues paying libertarian member. I never seen that blow hard at any of our coventions. AS far as Chuck he is a member and the 08 Presidential Candidate for the Constittution Party. The Person the wrote this artical should get their facts right. As far as being on the watch list i wear it as a badge of honor!

In Liberty
Matt Schutter
Libertarian Candidate Penn Forest Supervisor

The new part is the letter to DHS to investigate

And the SPLC has developed a new category over the last couple years: Patriot Movement.
As many people tell me there are little 'L' libertarians and there are big 'L' libertarians.

That's interesting

I just took their 6 hour law enforcement course two weeks ago. Didn't hear anything about people who support Ron Paul or listen to Alex Jones during that time though.

I told their representative that I am both those things and she didn't seem to have a problem with it.

Keep on them though and never give anyone a free pass if what they say is incorrect.

Did they address the Patriot Movement?

SPLC talk on what they are invited to talk about. In the eighties it was racism. It would be interesting to hear their Patriot Movement talk. Did they bring up that or sovereign citizens at your talk?