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Family's Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Son with Rifle

Police & Child Services show up...

Fox News: New Jersey police and Dept. of Children and Families officials raided the home of a firearms instructor and demanded to see his guns after he posted a Facebook photo of his 11-year-old son holding a rifle.

“Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.”

Moore was not arrested or charged.

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CorporateSellout's picture

Nappen is a great lawyer btw

I know plenty of people in NJ he's helped to get a pistol permit. Check him out if you live in state, you'll be glad you did. He's also a Free Stater!
http://www.evannappen.com/uploads/1/0/8/0/1080251/nappensgun...

Use things not People. Love People not things.

Hahaha, I was always taught

Hahaha, I was always taught to be careful of what you ask for. Showing up on someones doorstep demanding to see their firearms, well, that's a self fulfilling failure.

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Why is it that a raid is even needed, in the night non the less

Just seems like a recipe for disaster. How about just showing up around dinner time, knocking on the door and asking for a word.

You should all be very alarmed by the practice of conducting these raids or whatever you want to call them at night.

How can someone possibly say with a straight face that they are concerned about the welfare of a child, then show up in the middle of the night to scare the shit out of said child and terrorize the parents.

A few quotes from the article

“The department has a child abuse hotline for the state of New Jersey and anybody can make a call to that hotline,” spokesperson Kristen Brown said. “We are required to follow up on every single allegation that comes into the central registry.”

“In many cases we may follow up on something and we don’t find any problems....

...But the person who reported the false allegations of abuse cannot be held liable....

“You can’t be prosecuted for making an allegation of child abuse – even if it’s false....”

; )

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

I think this fellow is idiotic and irresponsible

and I don't care that what he should have foreseen was going to happen, happened.

Glad that I have no affiliation whatsoever with him.

You are already lost.

Don't you see the irony in your post on a liberty minded forum?

He's super stupid

Subjecting his family to the stress of a police attack for what?

To show off??

I don't know what your priorities are, but I admire discretion. Rednecks pulling pranks that are tantamount to saying to the police state: "Come 'n git me!" are not impressive.

????????????

"Subjecting his family to the stress of a police attack for what?"

Totally confusing!
HOW did HE subject his family to a police attack????????
Posting that picture on facebook was NOT against the law, his son holding a .22 rifle is not against the law. The clip was a 10 round clip which is not against the law there.
So, WHAT THE HELL DID HE DO THAT WAS SO BAD (in your opinion)????

Just HOW THE FUCK DID HE CAUSE THIS?

The one that should be prosecuted is the idiot woman who was so irresponsible that she wouldn't even give her name or allow any photo's to be taken of her.
Or, maybe you were her?

In today's climate, only a FOOL would post a picture

on Facebook of a child holding a gun. Kids go into school with bubble guns and the system cracks down on them with overwhelming force.

WHO doesn't know about that gap between what the law says and how the police state is enforcing its agenda?

Gun owners should be aware of the thugs and not taunt them using children.

Look Closely At Picture

What is his trigger finger doing? The kid has obviously been taught something about handling firearms safely.

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Brown told Fox News that it’s “prudent and wise to protect children.”

Because the father is insane and wants harm to come to his child.
Parents - the government cares more about your children than you do -don't you dare fight against this reality - hand them (your kids) over.

MAJOR eye rolling.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

What Do Suppose They Would Do

with THIS guy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JrJ6KDAy2w

skippy

His home wasn't raided.

His home wasn't raided. Headline should say that he successfully defended his fourth amendment rights against a nosy agent of the state.

I put a picture of my boy on Facebook after I bought several Mosin Nagant rifles and gave him one. It's in my room until he is eighteen but NV law allows him to possess it under several circumstances such as in my presence. I took the picture. I don't live in fear of the state. Besides, who is going to go after all those parents who allowed their children to be photographed during marksmanship classes in high school?

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Just saw an interview with father & son on Fox - house was

raided - he drew the line with them wanting him to open his safe to catalog his guns. Shame they let them come in the house at all.

God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. – Daniel Webster

NRA Instructor

and sports hunting family. Posting a pic like that makes perfect sense.

The direct scoop found here:

http://www.deloc.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8175

The assault on gun ownership is not just legislative, it's cultural.

Exactly,

and that is their goal, even EH says so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_ANRgcvjkk

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

if you read the story

they say there was allegations of abuse. I just want to know how you abuse the guy with the gun?

This isn't

good, and I'm sorry for this family if it's true - but Jeez, you have to be some kind of dumba$$ showoff, wannabe bada$$ for posting pictures like that on Facebook.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

I agree

That dude is a MORON.

His son had just gotten his certification

and just gotten the rifle - new just out of the box. He and his son were proud of it. And he was proud of his son, as he should be! Do you not post pictures of what you are proud of? Why, why, why is it some kind of crime to be proud of your children and boast about them?

that might be simple...

short answer, jealousy.

most people in america believe that we were attacked on 9\11 because some people in another country were jealous of our freedom. why?
is it because they, themselves, can fully understand the concept of killing or destroying other people's lives out of jealousy and spite?

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

Disagree

How is a kid holding a .22 showing off or being a wannabe? If your kid likes to play soccer, you post soccer pics. If they like to shoot, it's ok to post shooting pics. Gun owners should be standing up, not hiding.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Be careful what you post on facebook

The Internet is a surveillance state

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

YOU say it and get voted up fourteen times

Everyone else here seems to think the guy (who was NOT being careful) is some kind of hero, and down votes all us "liberty haters" who think he should have been more careful.

Well...I guess that's the kind of preferential treatment you get when you own the site... :)

It's not the messenger it's the message

If Michael posts something I disagree with I will down vote him too. In fact, I seldom look at who the poster is until after I have clicked the up or down vote.
The reason you are getting down voted is because you are blaming the father for doing something that is not illegal or immoral. It's also known as spreading fear or paranoia. This is supposed to be a free country and we are supposed to be free to express our opinions, likes, and dislikes without fear of official retaliation. But people like you are telling us to fear the establishment and double or triple think before we so much as post a photo.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the posting of a picture of his son on facebook, even if the FBI, NSA, DHS, CIA and any other alphabet soup agency you can think of, reads it daily. The problem starts with people like you that think you should control the thoughts of everyone else.

So, yes - you will get down voted!

Uh huh

The reason you are getting down voted is because you are blaming the father for doing something that is not illegal or immoral.

OK! So if someone has medical marijuana in a state where it is legal (and moral of course) to smoke it, yet they know that Obama is sending the ATF regularly into their neighborhood to confiscate these drugs, they are STILL perfectly justified in smoking a joint on their porch, even if their young children are inside and will be subjected to the trauma of having to WATCH the ATF manhandle them?

All I'm talking about is discretion and prudence in light of how the system actually works, not how it theoretically ought to work.

But people like you are telling us to fear the establishment and double or triple think before we so much as post a photo.

Do whatever you want...I NEVER in a million years would have done what this father did because to me the result was predictable. You people are acting shocked; meanwhile, he got exactly what I expected him to get.

So who's smarter? The one who can foresee the outcome and avoid it, or the one who insists that the outcome should be different, walks right into trouble with their child, and then whines about it?

Hey, it's "Fox News"

If it's on Fox it MUST be true!

I had a shotgun when I was 10

I must have had terrible parents.

When I was 12 my mom let me

take her single shot .22 and a bag of ammo out alone. It sure was fun pretending to be Daniel Boone.