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300 guns confiscated

An arsenal of more than 300 guns, many of them illegal, has been seized from a Long Island home around the corner from a high school, and the homeowner was arrested, authorities said Thursday.

Jay Steiner, 66, was arrested in late January after an undercover Suffolk police officer visited his Centereach home.

Steiner has been charged with criminal possession of a weapon and is free on bail.

"Wow!" said one surprised neighbor. "That's a lot of guns. It's scary."

Police were acting on a tip from a gun owner who had taken his weapon to Steiner, said Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota.

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"The guns were stored all throughout the house," said Spota, as he stood in front of a table filled with the seized weapons.

In all, 85 illegal handguns and 230 rifles and shotguns were found, as well as thousands of rounds of ammunition.

"He had more firepower than the detectives who arrested him," said Spota.

Investigators said Steiner had once held a federal gun license, permitting him to buy and sell weapons, but it expired in 2004.

Steiner maintained a business card, prosecutors said, displaying that expired license number.

Several calls to Steiner's lawyer, William Eppig of West Islip, were not returned.

It's unclear what the Centereach man was doing with all the guns.

The guns are being examined to determine whether any have been stolen or used in crimes.

Steiner had no pistol license for any of the handguns, according to Spota.

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"Illegal" because of NY's

"Illegal" because of NY's unconstitutional gun control laws? hmmm

Fill in the blank -

In Texas, a man with 300 guns is a/an __________.

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Amateur?

Amateur?

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

Long Island Home?

Or "Long Island Compound"?

What's with these newswriters, don't they know to use the correct terminology? Clearly an oversight on the part of the editor.

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Knowing of this matter directly

This was a crisis set-up. Most everything were gun parts and not the entire gun! This man did have a dealer's license and it did expire. Poor oversight, maybe. But 3 days later this raid took place. Also let it be known that Jay was the guy the local police went to as their own gunsmith! There is much more to this tale than is being told......

For those that dont know, the

For those that dont know, the guy was an ex-dealer. He use to buy and sell guns and his liscence simply expired and he didnt renew it. Assuming he didnt buy or sell anymore guns after it expired and he had the proper paper work, I have to wonder what exactly he did wrong here, unless of course he is required to renew it for a certain number?

Another thing, pointing out that its "scary" he had this many is rediculous. No person I know can use 3 guns at once, let alone 300. The number here doesnt matter diddly squat.

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You DO NOT have to be an FFL to deal in firearms

A dealer license (FFL) is only required if you intend to import or buy from the firearms distributors. If you intend to deal purely in private sales from person-to-person you do NOT need to hold an FFL.

This sounds like another case of Police State Gone Wild.

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Good investment...

It's no doubt a good investment too. You don't see the price of bullets going down. Being a dealer he knows what to put his money towards. Getting only 1% interest in some banks makes these items a good place to put some of your portfolio money. I too wonder what the problem is other than people being "scared" of a person having 300 guns.

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His crime:

...held a federal gun license, permitting him to buy and sell weapons, but it expired in 2004.

Yes, that is indeed scary, his neighbor should be so relieved.
(Ugh!)

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What is an illegal weapon?

Are you referring to unregistered guns. Since when has it been illegal to purchase an unregistered gun from a private party? What law says your guns have to be registered.

With 300 guns in his

With 300 guns in his collection he seems a bit obsessive but there was no evidence that he was an actual threat to anyone. I have a lot more books that that so I guess I'm an obsessive reader. And a country that bans guns might ban books a few decades later.

I used to live on Long Island (Nassau county, not Suffolk county). If you want a handgun there you basically have to beg the cops to please, please, please, let you have one. I now live in New Hampshire, which has less crime per capita than almost any other state and very lax gun laws. (I am not saying that the lax gun laws are the *cause* of the low crime rate but obviously lax gun laws are not causing crime here.) I am happy to put up with more snow to get a lot more freedom.

Books.

300 books can be more threatening to the status quo than 300 guns.

Suppose you were fond of books - L. Neil Smith

Naturally you were aware that books are dangerous. They give people ideas. Over the long, sad course of history, they've resulted in the slaughter of millions -- books like Uncle Tom's Cabin, Das Kapital/, Mein Kampf, the Quran, even the Bible -- but you had too much intelligence, too much regard for the right of other people to read, write, and think whatever they please, to blame the books themselves.

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Books

You are correct books can be very threatening. When an agent Raids your house they go through all the book s in your collection. They will pull out all the books that fill their need And try to use them against you

Indeed. Some of my books are

Indeed. Some of my books are very politically incorrect. Some years back congress was threatening to ban books that described how to manufacture illegal drugs. So naturally I bought every such book I could find. I have not the slightest interest in manufacturing LSD or methamphetamine, but try to convince the Thought Police of that when they see my books.

A small cache of weapons, not

A small cache of weapons, not an arsenal. Go to any gun show you'll see an arsenal of weapons.

http://www.google.com/search?q=arsenal+of+weapons+images&hl=...

"Police were acting on a tip from a gun owner..."

I wonder if the tipster will now receive his $500 reward.

http://www.dailypaul.com/279006/tip-line-rewards-new-yorkers...

Thats what I was thinking

I think the key is, don't let on about what/how many guns you have to anyone.
A post from above says this guy was a gunsmith and most of the "guns" were not even complete guns.But counting everything as a gun gets the count up. That makes sense, because when Cops raid a person growing pot, they often weigh the plant,dirt,and container to come up with the "poundage" and charge the person accordingly. So. if you use big containers for 2 plants, they might charge you with possession of 100 pounds when you might have had 2 ounces of pot.

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"Police were acting on a tip from a gun owner"

People like this are just as bad as the cops themselves, what a piece of shit.

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"Arsenal"

Don't let people get away with using such terminology when in most cases the proper term would be "collection". "Arsenal" would be more appropriate if the "large number" of firearms consisted of only one or several types of the same firearms.

The meaning of the word

The meaning of the word 'arsenal' more typically denote a place where weapons are manufactured. An 'armory' more typically denotes where they are stored. However, there has become some ambiguity between the terms, probably through misuse and misapplication of the two words.