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Peter Schiff: "Just Blow The Place Up!" (Iran)

I've always looked up to Peter Schiff and considered him a pro-liberty, non-interventionist economist who was a spokesman for liberty-lovers and someone to be listened to.

But then I saw this:


http://youtu.be/ujF0--nZsjw

I'm a little confused by how "just blow the place up" can be considered non-interventionist and pro-liberty. Doesn't Iran have the right to deny others from their property? I thought he believed in property rights.

I'm wondering now who is Peter Schiff really is, and why do so many liberty-lovers follow such a warmonger?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me four-hundred and fifty-seven thousand times, shame on me!

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This is very old news at this

This is very old news at this point.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

This is an old video from his Senate run

He was probably trying to sound tough and pandering to the conservative electorate. In any case, Schiff is great on economics. Even if he doesn't agree with Ron Paul or the liberty movement 100%, he's still done a lot of good. In fact, it was the original "Peter Schiff was right" video that started the process of opening my eyes and my mind. Peter Schiff led me to Austrian economics, and then of course to Ron Paul and the ideas of liberty. Just because someone isn't in lockstep 100% with us, that doesn't mean that they can't be useful.

True, but

I am really sick of all the Iran bashers and war-mongers.

I am sure

This will be clarified the next time a few people ask him. Nothing to get all bent out of shape about.

donvino

I listened to this about four times

There was more than sufficient context to draw a reasonable conclusion from his remarks. In regards to weapons inspectors Schiff clearly states; Quote "If they don't let us in just blow the place up".

What part of this is so difficult to understand? It would seem that the Liberty Movement is suffering from an extreme case of cognitive dissonance, in which case we are clearly toast. Enough of the hero worship already.

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

Not changing my opinion on

Not changing my opinion on him.

same here

First, I don't know the context of the video.

Second, I don't care if Peter agrees with me on every single issue. I'm secure enough in my beliefs that I don't feel the need to live in an echo chamber.

Unlike some of the "free thinkers" here, I'm not going to label Peter as an evil neocon statist yadda yadda and demonize someone based off of a single youtube clip, or the fact that I may or may not agree with him on a single given issue. Seems an increasing amount of folks here are becoming very exclusive with the endless "2libertarian4u"-type posts that pop up every time someone voices an opinion that doesn't align with some piece of political doctrine.

Just another case of the rebels becoming the establishment...sunrise, sunset.

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Disappointed in some of you guys

I thought we knew better than to jump the gun and have an emotional knee jerk reaction before thinking. Peter is on our side. He has made the point clearly many times that he is against our wasteful wars overseas. I am disappointed in some of you

I'd like to

I'd like to see more of this video, both before and after. It seems a little short and cut to fully understand the scope of what he is talking about. You might be surprised how a few words before and after the segment can make a big difference in what he is talking about. If someone can get a hold of the whole thing, I'd like to see it.

Wow, Peter Schiff another

Wow, Peter Schiff another liar, cheat and now wannabe murderer.

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Peter Schiff out of Context ?????

One of the great spots, The Daily Paul, is that we look at context, there is none here. I was a member of Peter's meetup when he ran for office. I do not think your showing enough of this video to be running him over with the bus, just yet. This is editing, his intent is to illustrate the lake of neccessity for prolonged war. He does not promote violence, but infers that it could less time in it duration, give our capacity. His mention of needless casualties was missed by most ? Tricks to create dis-harmony I guess.....

Excuse me, but why

is Iran somehow less entitled to have nukes than Israel? If anything, Iran would seem to have at least as much need as Israel to be able to defend itself, since Israel is constantly threatening to attack Iran and not the other way around. If Israel were actually a peaceful, friendly neighbor, Iran and Israel would be friends and allies as they used to be not all that long ago.

plenty of context

In regards to weapons inspectors Schiff clearly states, "if they don't let us in just blow the place up" How much more context do you need?

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

Another one under the bus?

Starting to pile up..

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I remember when Peter

was on camera saying to vote for Romney, because he was better than Obama. I was pretty shocked then but this doesn't surprise me now.

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If having a nuke program justifies attack,

doesn't that justify anyone to attack the U.S.?

...just sayin'

Yip and

a +1 for logic, Sir/Ma'am! Don't you love how hypocritical we are to poor nations trying to give themselves energy?

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

he said

"We need to tell the Iranians, this is where we THINK the weapons are. You NEED to LET our inspectors in there. If they don't we blow the place up. BUT, we don't have to send in all these ground troops in there. We don't have to occupy countries."

is that because we can just "blow the place up"? his words, not mine.

he is talking about using drones and other means to impose sanctions instead of troops and occupation of land. "Think", "Need to let"? really, those are "probable cause"?
"cause i said so"? lol...

Cop pulls you over.
"Sir, i SUSPECT you have stuff i don't like in your car, you NEED to LET me search it, if you don't, i'm going to blow up your vehicle."

i don't know when this video was shot, but years ago i would have said to bomb everyone too... just saying... people do wake up...

it is pretty absurd to say "blow the place up" because you suspect something though, you gotta admit. it's not like he said, "they are attacking someone, so we blow the place up" ... na, he said, "IF we THINK they have something that WE don't ALLOW them to have..." which is another absurdity in and of itself. who are we to grant the "allowance" of anything? we must think we are Gods.

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I can't watch the clip now

but I suspect that it is out of context, as most clips are. Probably sarcasm i.e. "if we really think they are such a threat why don't we just blow the place up?" or something along those lines. Well, I wouldn't normally eben comment in these circumstances....but I'm bored.

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No, he is definitely not

speaking sarcastically. More like flippantly, like of course we would blow them up.

Some of his interviews indicated a more pro-war stance

that I've seen him in, and this was DURING the RP campaign, which you know he wasn't involved in this last time. At the time I couldn't believe it, because he seemed to be playing both ends of the stick at once. Peter might be an opportunist, wanting to sell his books, wanting to gain more clients (even some wealthy RP clients), but people eventually reveal what their attitudes are.

I believe he supported the sanctions against Iran.

Peter is talking about if

Iran refuses to allow inspectors into specific facilities, that we have evidence are housing nuclear weapons,to blow those specific targets up. Not all of Iran and its people.

I for one disagree with this action and Peter's statement but this dialogue of his does not make him an enemy to the Liberty movement. And he never said anything about doing it without congressional approval. This video has been taken out of context so many times....

Israel doesn't allow inspections, either.

And they definitely have nukes and constantly threaten and actually attack their neighbors (Does white phosphorus ring a bell?).

So, if we think blowing up Iran's nuclear facilities based on a hunch is justified, does that mean we get to blow up Israel's, too?

...

Fail Friday

i sense quite a bit of

i sense quite a bit of sarcasm from him in this clip.. as everyone else said it's a short clip and spun out of context. schiff i've listened to him for years now and he's someone mostly in the middle and is rather well spoken.. i'm pretty sure someone with a father locked up from our government isn't too happy about our government. stupid post.

this is old..Peter is a good guy!

watch the whole video and grow up!

You guys are becoming worse than the MSM

Just take whatever clip and spin it out of context. Sure, he's not Ron Paul, but Peter is a huge friend to liberty. What he was talking about in the video would be a 90% reduction in what we are currently doing overseas. There are liberty-minded people making real changes to people's views and injecting liberty into the discussion using very prominent platforms, and there are those who hole up and reject anyone that isn't 100% Ron Paul (or whatever their perceived version on Ron Paul is). Start helping to win people over to our side, even if only partially, and stop being someone who can't accept that people have differences of opinion.

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I agree with jurgs

Yes, he's not Ron Paul. Peter Schiff is Jewish, and like many Zionists he gets wiggy when it comes to Israel; I get that we're not going to see eye to eye on this. However, Peter Schiff has done SO MUCH, and I will always find the scales tipped in his favor - he gets it.

Remember, Ron Paul was very close to Murray Rothbard (Ron signed one of Murray's books for me), but Murray once wrote "any laws restricting abortion should be looked at as invasions of the rights of the mother", a position RP clearly does not agree with. Therefore, two giant minds can disagree, yet link arms. Can we agree to still support Peter Schiff in the same spirit?

Old video same meme.

Peter is good at explaining current economic events. Besides that he's just another neocon-lite, imo. I have never heard him say anything about the wars. He usually just bitches about life is not fair to his particular class and business. It's all about Peter.

Exactly. I never heard him

Exactly. I never heard him talk about the wars and just assumed he was a non-interventionist like Ron Paul (as he says he is). But then when you hear him talk about the war, it's the same old neocon line. Can't believe I was one of the suckers who promoted him for senate.