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A warning about raw vegetables - Careful when buying those pre-washed salads(organic or not)

Is there anything safe left to eat??? I mean other than growing your own food, it seems like you can't take anything for granted. How many people innocently take a packaged "PRE-WASHED" salad and just dig in? I'm sure that millions do. The "experts" solution? Irradiate and/or cook(effectively killing all the nutrients)!:

"Salad labelled as "ready-to-eat" is more dangerous than beefburgers, one of Britain`s top food experts has said, following a spate of Cryptosporidium infections linked to the product.

Certain types of bacteria found in the pre-cut salad bags can be almost impossible to kill, Professor Hugh Pennington said, unless the leaves are irradiated – a process the public would oppose. "Vegetables are fine and safe if they are cooked in the traditional British way of boiling them to death. The only danger comes when you eat them raw."

His claim follows a Health Protection Agency investigation into an outbreak of salad-linked Cryptosporidium infections that affected around 300 people in England and Scotland in May. Professor Pennington also pointed out that a bean sprout farm in northern Germany was identified as the most likely source of many of the infections in the E. coli outbreak that left 22 people dead in 2011.

The farm, located in Uelzen, south of Hamburg, was the epicentre of the outbreak that has also made more than 2,000 people ill.

"These bugs are very good at clinging on to salad and the risk from cryptosporidium, salmonella and listeria is very real."I would advise people to thoroughly wash salad even when it says it has been washed and is ready to eat."

"My understanding is that this farm in Germany was an organic one and there are more risks with organic food. For example organic chicken has more bugs than non-organic because they spend longer in the field and have wild bird droppings on them etc.
Vegetables are fine and safe if they are cooked in the traditional British way of boiling them to death. The only danger comes when you eat them raw."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/994...

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I wash the prewashed

...stuff even more just because it says prewashed :)

donvino

Food grade Peroxide...

I spray all my fruits and vegetables with it, Bacteria cannot survive it. Works on solid meats too and it stores much longer!

Never heard of it

but will definitely be looking into it. Thanks!

PS. Have you or family members ever noticed any side effects or difference of taste in foods after using it?

Edited to add that the only thing I can find is 35% food grade "hydrogen" peroxide. Is that what you use?

Yes 35%

Dilute it down and rinse after use and no it doesn't effect the taste.

I'll give it a go. Thanks Perry!

BTW - According to this link: http://www.gorgeouslygreen.com/2012/03/clean-up-your-food/

using vinegar as well is also helpful:

"Hydrogen peroxide is 100% effective at removing all contaminants, including E. coli and Salmonella. Vinegar also works well to remove waxes and pesticides. Remember cooking a piece of food well will deal with most of these contaminants, but when you are eating raw food, such as salad, you are very susceptible to these poisons."

I have no idea when this came out

But I think you'll find it informative. http://mightylib.mit.edu/Course%20Materials/22.01/Fall%20200...

Quick Quiz: When you drink Tropicana apple juice

these days, you are drinking juice made from concentrates from how many different countries? ___

1) ONE: The United States, primarily from the six states of Washington, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Michigan, and California
2) TWO: The United States and China
3) FOUR: The United States, Argentina, Chile, and Brazil
4) SIX: The United States, Germany, Austria, Italy, Hungary, and Turkey
5) TEN: Germany, Austria, Italy, Hungary, Argentina, Chile, Turkey, Brazil, China, and the United States

Answer: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6ni5d...

"Growing international trade in food products" is one of the three major reasons for the trend in IRRADIATED FOOD. How about in the name of NUTRITION & FOOD SAFETY, JOBS FOR AMERICANS, and NATIONAL SECURITY, America adopt a goal to become self-sufficient.

(((Granger))) Thanks for the article!

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

"As close to the grove as you can get!"

How long can the higher-priced, "premium" not-from-concentrate juice from "fresh-picked" oranges be stored in million-gallon tanks before being packaged and shipped? ___

1) Up to three days
2) Up to a week
3) Up to a month
4) Up to three months
5) UP TO A YEAR?!

Hey thanks, ecard71, for the good news about orange juice to go along with my discovery about Tropicana Apple Juice.

Well, at least with the apple juice coming from ten countries on four continents, if there's a food safety problem... it should be easy enough to trace it back to the source!

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Think about Tropicana's claim of 16 oranges in every carton -

I've juiced 16 oranges. You get about 1.5 to 2 glasses full of juice - no where near a carton. I've also added water to those 16 oranges to fill up a carton, and the result is pretty watered down juice - Blech!

Taken from the previous link:
"Some products, as Natural News has reported, are labeled "100 percent pomegranate juice," but in fact are filled mostly with other fruit juices or sugar water.
Beverage giant Coca-Cola was recently able to dodge a federal claim of false advertising on one of its "pomegranate" drinks - but just barely. Minute Maid, which is a subsidiary of Coca-Cola, can continue to label one of its drinks "Pomegranate Blueberry," even though it is almost entirely made of apple and grape juices, and contains a paltry 0.3 percent pomegranate juice and 0.2 percent blueberry juice."

Now all we have to wonder is "how much" of that 0.2% juice is "actually" "real" juice? And people STILL want a government nanny state to take care of them. Mind blowing isn't it?

Wealth of info Grange - Thank you

How can I tell if food is irradiated?
"The FDA requires that the radura symbol (a stylized flower shown on
opposite page) along with a written warning of radiation treatment be
placed on any whole foods that have been irradiated, such as chickens or fresh tomatoes. However, if those same items are used as ingredients no label is required. That means that any prepackaged or processed food containing more than one ingredient
could be irradiated. And neither delicatessens nor restaurants are required to reveal whether their ingredients have been irradiated."

my guess

If the food is coming from abroad it has got the treatment.

Not all because ther is just too much but I strive to buy local. Mexican produce, I stay away from.

donvino

Funny thing is

for most of my life I stayed away from produce made in other countries due to the "fact" that USA had better standards and had a "superior" product. If it came from Mexico, Chile, etc., and it was the only option at the time, I simply would not buy it.

Fast forward to a few years ago when I started learning about the USDA/FDA, due to cancer research, vaccines, GMO's, and now chemtrails,.....
Well now all I can say is that I've lost COMPLETE and total faith in that my "superior" government was not like the rest. My country was no longer looking out for MY best interest and health, but simply looking for profit - regardless at the cost(Americans health/Agenda 21). It's been part of my "waking up", and having been a proud patriot, it was a very hard pill to swallow.

The irony is that it has turned a consumer into someone that now LOOKS for imported produce and stays away from USA made products. My thinking is that I'd rather "be able" to wash away any natural contaminants, than eat something that's been modified/processed/poisoned that can't "simply be washed away". I try to buy at farmer's markets, but other than taking the business's word for it, even that's not guaranteed GMO free.

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I'm sorry but growing it

yourself is the ONLY answer. I have been trying for 10 years to educate and help others understand this. Amazing as it is , it has only been since Ron Paul that I and my ideas have caught on.

Ask many old timers here at the DP and they will tell you that growing and being careful, sharing seed and helping others is the only security you have.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

"growing and being careful, sharing seed and helping others"

I couldn't agree more with that statement. My concern lies with the millions of consumers that are thinking they're doing the right thing by trying to eat healthy, and buying these "pre-washed" packages, and simply dumping their contents on their families plates. I never bought in to that "pre-washed" claim as being "enough". I also applaud any article that tries to shed some light on it. I just wish they would have gone a little further and mentioned gardening. Who's to say they didn't and the editor-in-chief overruled?

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I completely agree!

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1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Fear Mongering

If you are really concerned, throw it under some water for a second and drain. Modern day germ-phobia is at ridiculous level. Some greens and carrots with some dirt in it will kill you but a nice sterile Diet Pepsi with aspartame and phosphoric acid is safe and refreshing. Of course.

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Very dismissive - NOT about "dirt", but "bacteria"

"If you are really concerned, throw it under some water for a second and drain." -dasohio

"These bugs are very good at clinging on to salad and the risk from cryptosporidium, salmonella and listeria is very real.
I would advise people to thoroughly wash salad even when it says it has been washed and is ready to eat." -Professor Pennington

What I find very interesting is that the public is told to wash their hands very thoroughly with anti-bacterial soap after handling foods such as meats that may contain salmonella, yet you seem to think that "running under some water for a second" is sufficient?

I'm guessing that the deaths, or the thousands of people that have gotten ill could have avoided all that by simply rinsing under water for a second? Your "expertise"?

"Diet Pepsi with aspartame and phosphoric acid is safe and refreshing"
No one here, or in the article ever mentioned that. Nice try at giving relevance to your comments though.

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ecard71, this person has no clue

what this post is about. There are many here at the DP that have become very proficient in raising their own veggies. You can do it in such a small space. I grow my winter garden in just a couple of 55 gallon drums and my Spring garden on a 1/2 acre with an additional 3 raised beds. I supply enough for 4 families and give away the rest.

If you want adice, just ask. If you need seed, just ask. Just do not rely on the CRAP you get in the market. It will kill you.

If you can grow your own, then you can teach others just as I try to accomplish. Lol! I get such joy watching people getting excited about the path they are beginning. Once this becomes prevelant then learning about LIBERTY is only a couple of steps away.

It is ALL about the belly!

Jim

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Thank you for the offer Jim

Any advice in maintaining a garden in a small space is very much appreciated. I can certainly google all day, but I find that many times, people have a wealth of knowledge and experience that you simply can't get from "googling". It's definitely something I'd like to be able to do and pass on to others as well. By all means point the way, and show me the light :-)

BTW - this is up on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MjY3C...

Is that similar to what you do for winter? Anything to add or take away from it?

"Once this becomes prevelant then learning about LIBERTY is only a couple of steps away."
Absolutely it's part of waking up! You won't have to rely on da gubmint, or da GMO korporation, and you'll start questioning why you ever did in the 1st place.