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Ron Paul on The Alan Colmes Show discusses Iraq War, gay marriage, and more 3/25/2013



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Judge A Person By His Works Not Religion

Jesus was a Jew, but the Pharisees were also. Jesus was a man of his word, the Pharisees wee not..

By there fruits ye shall know them....

Take a congressman for example, how many of them say one thing and do another.

How many of them do what they say they are going to do.

As most of you know, it is a rare person who consistently acts on what he says..

Ron Paul lives the life most of us would envy, unless of course you're an exception and live your life like he does..

There are many people out there in la, la land that would could easily find fault in...

Ron Paul is not one of THEM...

Excellent dialog.

Thanks for the good post, as usual, Sailingaway..

Caio..

all governments should be out of the marriage question.

It is not a state function it is a religious function. There was a time when only churches dealt with marriage and they determined what it was. For 100 years or so ago for health reasons they claimed that the state would protect us if we knew more about our spouses and we did health testing and you had to get a license to get married

jhon

I totally agree

with your sentiment that marriage should not be by the state or federal government, or any government institution. It should definitely be handled religiously. But I really think that in this day and age, arguing over this is just being very nitpicky. Because in the end, let's say that the state governments and federal governments all of a sudden come to their senses and say "hands off the marriage question!" and allow marriage to be settled religiously.

However, the state governments are still very likely to discriminate "gay marriages" and "straight marriages." This is the very heart of the problem! Then, "gay married couples" will say "Who cares if I can call my marriage a 'marriage?' That's not the solution I was looking for. I still want to be able to visit my spouse in the ICU, have tax benefits, have a say in autopsies, have a say in my spouse's medical procedures, renew leases for my spouse if he's not here, receive family rates for all types of insurance, etc."

In my opinion, even though I believe that marriage should be handled religiously, I don't believe that this is the political solution. I think the political solution would be to still allow state governments to decide whatever they want on gay marriage, and use the existing marriage benefits to apply to gay marriages if gay marriages are allowed in that state. It is very unlikely that the state of Virginia, for example, will discriminate against "gay marriages" and rescind the "marriage rights," if the people of Virginia have already voted yes for gay marriage.

Here's a great link for marriage benefits if anybody wanted to check it out. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/marriage-rights-benef...

When the goverment is involved in the liscencing of marriage

they can now because they give the parents the license to marry take away the kids from the parents and they know more about the spouses and put that information in a database and they put the information from the health testing on you in a database. Know they put the information you gave them for your license and your license in a database. This if a very good reason for governments getting out of the marriage business. It is a privacy issue. You do not want a totalitarian government. John Stossel Interviews Ron Paul on Personal Freedom, Drugs, Prostitution and Gay Marriage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJz81lAwY0M

jhon

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Okay, all you people that pile on me when I say

there are consequences for "believing" in things that are illogical and false. RP says "probably the underlying conflict over there is a religous civil war,etc..."

When two opposing viewpoints are held based on logic (err illogic) that is impossible to prove...and the doctrine requires those people to fight to the death in support of their "faith", well, violence and death is what you will ALWAYS get.

Be individually spiritual if you must, but at least let go of ORGANIZED Religion and the mandates in those 1000's of year old doctrines.

Damn...I just realized that this comment is going to get hammered with down votes and I was just starting to recover from the last time I bashed religion. Oh well, one step forward, two steps back. Go easy on me bible thumpers. :-O

You do realize...

When you bash people belonging to organized religion, you are also bashing Ron Paul. You do realize this, right? The man has been a Baptist for decades, has been exposed to the agnosticism of friends like Murray Rothbard, and has not ceased in attending his church. So, by extension, you are saying that Ron Paul is behaving in something illogical and false (as am I and a good chunk of the people posting on here).

Your arguments are pompous and asinine simultaneously. You have more to fear from DISORGANIZED religion (ergo all of these 1 person cults like Jim Jones or various sectarian groups aligned under a small group of ideologues) than you do from people who share a common theological affinity and attend a weekly worship.

P.S. - Mao Zedong was an atheist, ergo there are consequences to being a skeptic of theology. See the problem with this line of thinking?

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

unicorn, do you believe that a man was dead and buried for

3 days and then arose from the dead? Do you believe that a virgin gave birth and remained a virgin?

Only dismiss organized

Only dismiss organized religion if you are better than all of the people in that organized religion, and you do not need any of their help in making yourself better.

Better than all the people etc?

Where did that come from?

If there is anything I've learned since "waking up" its to question and challenge the claims which authority figures offer. I can't think of anything that is more fantastic than the claims made by religion and/or the bible. I do not believe that anyone could have been buried for 3 days and then magically come back to life. Nor do I believe that a virgin can give birth. I don't beleive that an arch was filled with 2 animals from all over the globe. I don't beleive that "noah" could live for over 600 years much less live for 600 years and reproduce. The story that religion puts forward cannot be true. Its impossible.

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Not all Bible "Thumpers"

as you so eloquently (and originally) put it - embrace organized Religion.

You might consider taking your own advise so as not to fall into the exact trap of which you warn.
Ergo: Tell people to be individuals, then proceed to demean them as a group.

P.S. I still voted you up!

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Good Point robot

I do walk a fine line when it comes to that issue. I'm working on it.

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thanks

thanks

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