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Teen gets 30 months in Federal Prison for Laser Pointer



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Wow, I did not know a laser would do that either...

Great post. I have never used a laser but I am grateful for this video so that I can inform my children of the dangers of lasers to aircraft. I would never have thought a laser so far away would be so bright.

Thank you again for posting this video.

A Different Warning

Instead of warning your children about the danger of a laser to aircraft, there is also the option of warning them about being shortsighted: If such a simple mechanism can pose a risk to an aircraft, then it is the aircraft that needs to be redesigned.

Obviously, throwing 19-year olds in jail isn't going to solve the problems of 3,600+ laser incidents that occurred in 2011.

How about the problem of birds flying into airplane propellers?
When we redesign aircraft so propellers aren't used, this isn't a problem anymore, and no more birds have to go to jail (jailbirds).

Images enhanced for our viewing pleasure?

How do pilots managed the strobe lights that line runways? Don't pilots fly IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) at night.

They have those strobes on the Mailmen's trucks and police cars. They are annoying.

I tend to this this is much to do about nothing but to beware the heavy boot of government will come after anyone that crosses us.

I would tell my kids not to to be annoying. That's what government are for.

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Jury Duty

Children should not be tried as adults. That means, don't arrest 8 year olds for assault, don't lock 16 year olds up for life for drug dealing, and all the other things the politically-motivated DA's and other elected officials are known to do.

It's obvious looking at a two-year-old that they don't have the brain development to behave in a socially acceptable way in all situations. The same is true of many children until their mid-twenties.

However, even with older adults, shouldn't the punishment serve to teach the perpetrator so that they are safe to return to society?

If I were on a jury, I would never convict a child as an adult. It's unconstitutional to make an act a crime, ex post facto. A juvenile perpetrator can't be turned into an adult by edict.

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There also shouldn't just be

There also shouldn't just be some arbitrary line for adulthood called 18 years old. It's moronic. Most people who are in their 30s now are not as mature and able to run their lives as 15 year old people only 50 years ago. It's just so subjective and adulthood should be decided for every case like this. For example, there is no reason why some 12 year old thug asshole should not be locked up for life for killing someone for gang-related reasons/initiations. It's obvious that their mind is not child-like because they've had to do their own thing their whole life to survive.

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They're making an example...

perhaps some kind of precedent for drone interference.

I hope he can appeal and get the sentence reduced...he is stupid but does not deserve his life ruined by being sent to hell for almost three years.

Who on DP has teenage boys at home?
I rest my case...

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

It looks like proportionality just got tossed out the window.

Whats next?

55 years in prison for selling plants?

Oh wait.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weldon_Angelos_case

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

for anyone claiming "no harm"

Look up green lasers on YouTube and check this site out: http://www.wickedlasers.com.hk/index.php?sub=wickedlasers.com

Now I'm not saying the punishment fit the crime but if anyone really thinks no harm can be done needs to do a little research.

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Would take the most powerful model a minute to boil 19mg H20

Trick is if you see laser light look away quickly. Don't stare.

Welding flash is more damaging, but has to be at close range for seconds.

Anybody find any peer-reviewed journal articles describing actual damage.

Why are teacher's allowed to have them in classrooms? They could shoot shooter's eyes out.

The danger is the laser-guided munitions.

The laser becomes the mark of death.

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How many stupid things have you done?

Hi DPer's,

I see these cases and I say that was a stupid thing. Put him in a jail for a couple of days. That should set him straight. Even a 1 hours visit might do it. If he wanted a plane to fall out of the sky, he would of made it happen. No killer uses a laser pointer to kill people or cause something to malfunction. It's a prank or curiosity. I wonder if I can hit that plane with this laser from down here? Bored perhaps? There is quite a bit of things to consider. Judgement to harsh, most likely, unless he has a criminal background on violence that we don't know of or has done this thing before. Now if he does, perhaps 2 years or more is fine, but if not, too harsh of a punishment.

Now with that said, how many things have you done that was stupid?

When I was a kid, I remember doing quite a bit of stupid things. Putting toys in the street, so cars would run them over. Climbing a giant building for a good view. Climbing into dark tunnels. Driving backwards down roads for practice on how to drive backwards. Driving 60mph on a curvy 30mph, just see if I could do it without crashing. I found out that I can. I'm kind of a dare devil. Driving down one way streets by accident. Picking the wrong girl. You get the picture.

We all do stupid things as kids and we grow out of it. Doing stupid things is what humans do. I have kids and they do stupid things all the time, it's how we learn. Humans are dumb.

If DPers were on the jury...

looks to be a hung one. What I would like to know is,was the the DEFENSE competent? I say no. The sentence does NOT fit the crime in my opinion.The kid is dumb though.

What if it's one of us role playing a Star Wars battle out at...

night? What then? Intent plays a big role.

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Green Lazers

Question:

HOw many accidents and/or deaths have occurred from lazzzer pointers? FRICKIN LAZERBEAMs attached....sorry. So how many? Take a guess.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

How many people have been

How many people have been killed by drones in the United States. Take a guess, yeah it's zero so far... that doesn't mean they're not potential dangerous. If we take the story on it's face, the individual was an adult 19 years old. He didn't have a consumer grade laser, it was in fact a commercial grade which implies it was fairly powerful. I'm pretty sure if you talk to any pilot he's going to tell you that having a powerful laser come into the cockpit during the landing sequence creates an extremely unsafe condition. So yeah not much else to add except duh.

who the f are the people posting below

justifying putting a teenager in prison for 3 years for pointing a laser pointer.

and with lots of upvotes too

who are you people?

I'll be damned if I know. I

I'll be damned if I know. I guess that's what we get for working within the party. LOL

Wow...

30 months in prison??? How about 1 month in prison. If you've ever been to a jail cell you'de know that for most things it doesn't take a day for most to get the message across about not fucking with the law, especially for a kid. They probably want to make an example of him which to me is immoral.

Well said. What one deserves

Well said. What one deserves should take precedence over setting an example.

Ditto

3 years is 2.9 too many. Two nights in the pokey is all it took to cool my jets.

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I'm shocked at the comments

I'm shocked at the comments below. 2 1/2 YEARS for a stupid stunt, in which nobody was hurt, and some of you think thats fair? Despicable.

So you are saying that if

So you are saying that if someone shoots at you with a rifle and misses that he should not be punished because there was no harm done?

A rifle is not a laser. A

A rifle is not a laser. A laser is not a rifle.

Without provable injury, the

Without provable injury, the kid should have kept his mouth shut. This ruling is out of line for this particular case. Actually, devices using INCOHERENT light are rapidly becoming so powerful that even flashlights pose the possibility of temporary blindness over distances of several hundred feet. Maybe, the government will eventually try to regulate sunlight. Hmmmmmmmmm... Maybe, the government already IS trying to regulate the sun. Maybe, the government should attempt to ban or regulate lightning as well. This case illustrates the absurdity of the government's response to a foolish and immature act.

All's well that ends well I say.

Apparently nobody died and they nabbed the idiot who could have caused multiple deaths by his deliberate actions. Sure, he most likely never imagined the potentially tragic consequences and it was an unthinking, mischievous indiscretion. He might also come out of prison a bitter, hostile person. But throwing the book at him may reach millions of other Americans and convince them that temporarily blinding someone with a laser is an enormously BAD IDEA.

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Hell, why stop there. They

Hell, why stop there. They should've just shot the SOB right then and there.

I was driving down a 2 lane

I was driving down a 2 lane country road coming home from work one night and someone in the trees about 100 yards from the road was lighting up all the cars windshields with a green laser pointer. He hit the car in front of me and then he hit me, right in the eyes, as I was cresting a hill at about 45 mph. That laser in your eyes hurts and is blinding! That idiot could've caused multiple wrecks. I pulled over and went looking for the person with the pointer. Luckily for him I didn't find him because I was pissed and would've shoved that pointer up that guys ass had I found him.

Yes, pointing a laser at

Yes, pointing a laser at someone's face is immature and potentially dangerous. If such an immature act leads to injury, then a case for judgment exists. Eye glasses are made to protect from specific wavelengths, but one never knows what wavelength will be employed at any given time. Furthermore, one would require several pair to cover the more popular wavelengths. Protecting oneself against lasers is possible, but cumbersome at best. One can even buy lasers in the IR range where the eye fails to blink which can be particularly hazardous. Just like guns, personally, I have no problem with lasers as they're potentially a very effective weapon with mature use. I'm tired of all the regulation because of a few immature people. We're regulating ourselves to death based on small probabilities. Take some action. If you live, you risk losing life at ANY time. Identify the few immature people and remove their ability to cause damage while leaving more mature people free to employ lasers where appropriate as a weapon or otherwise. The government certainly will employ lasers, even ones powerful enough to vaporize a person on contact.

Any one verify a claim of injury?

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What do you mean?

Having someone shine one of those green lasers at your face while you're driving at night is like someone punching you in the face. It's painfully bright and will blind you for a couple seconds. You can't really block it because the point of light is so fine, as I found out that night.

I would have no problem with beating someone up to the point they need the hospital if I catch someone pointing one of those lasers in my eyes, especially while I was driving.

And anyone that equates the laser in supermarket scanners to the green laser pointers is as ignorant as they come.