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Americans Leaving Blue States for Red; New York Least Freest State of All

By John Merline | Investor's Business Daily | March 28, 2013

Americans are migrating from less-free liberal states to more-free conservative states, where they are doing better economically, according to a new study published Thursday by the George Mason University's Mercatus Center.

The "Freedom in the 50 States" study measured economic and personal freedom using a wide range of criteria, including tax rates, government spending and debt, regulatory burdens, and state laws covering land use, union organizing, gun control, education choice and more.

It found that the freest states tended to be conservative "red" states, while the least free were liberal "blue" states.

The freest state overall, the researchers concluded, was

North Dakota, followed by South Dakota, Tennessee, New Hampshire and Oklahoma. The least free state by far was New York, followed by California, New Jersey, Hawaii and Rhode Island.

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I know its bad for you guys but....

.....Here in the UK our sales tax is 20% on about 90% of everything purchased. on top of that we add duty which is between 50-60% on fuel, cigarettes and alcohol.

Add to that an income tax that starts at 22% for everything earned over £9150, 40% for earnings over £36500 and 45% on everything over £100000.

Our National insurance (your Social security equivilent) is 11% after earnings exceeding £9150. This 11% is taken by state from both employer and employee so when you are self employed you pay it twice when doing your own wages!

You guys have it easy when it comes to taxes even in your less free states.

I'm not having a go at anyone, just pointing out that other countries do have it harder than you from an economic perspective.

for two years I earned £1350 a week and every week i would have £550 of that stolen by the state!

If we compare national debts/deficits you guys win hands down. Our national debt is 1.12 trillion and our deficit is £120 billion so you beat us on that.

Don't ever come and live and work in this country if you earn big. the UK state will take it off you and give very little in return.

If it wasnt for the fact that your federal government is so authortarian/dictatorial I would have followed my parents to Illinois when they moved there to work in 2005. not anymore. The politicians in your country have made your constitution irrelevant.

I find it slightly amusing that your elected representatives swear an oath to uphold a document with no real intention of following what it says. Except maybe Ron Paul.

Our constitution and bill of rights is so old (magna carta and bill of rights) that out MPs dont pay it any attention anymore.

Both our countries are police states, yours is just slightly scarier because your state agents openly use guns where its just a veiled threat in the UK.

Im contemplating Costa Rica. No standing army since 1949 and a very small government. Must be a friendly country to not need any form of national defence.

I may be out +/- a few percent on some of the figures stated but the percentages I mention in taxes are accurate.

Beware - they always leave

Beware - they always leave the burden of their lefty states and then they ruin it wherever they head to. California sure is a different place from when I was a kid.

But here's what happens...

But here's what happens... these people then go about setting up the same systems in their new home that made the place they left unfree.

I'm leaving NY in 1 week!

Count me as part of the exodus. Young engineer sick of the insane taxes and gov't overreach. SAFE act was the spark. Can't believe I'm actually moving away from my friends and family, but just accepted a really good offer in #10 Georgia. And many of my friends are seriously considering leaving as well.

I Left NY 20 Years Ago....

Problem is that I ended up in Massachusetts. 8-( However, the New Hampshire border beckons just 56 miles away from where I live. 8-)

Ed Rombach

South Dakota is the freest of

South Dakota is the freest of all!

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." Ben Franklin

DakotaKid's picture

Close enough

...need to get rid of the illegal sobriety checks.

The New York SAFE Act will only speed the exodus

Our Governor is a king. The SAFE Act was his royal proclamation that defined me as a criminal if I don't register my rifle with the state. Meanwhile, knights of King Cuomo's round table (the active and retired police) are exempt from his laws.

Property taxes are literally the highest in the nation. A semi-nice home that costs $175,000 will cost you more than $500 PER MONTH in property taxes.

Sales tax is 8%. Income tax is 8%. Gasoline tax is the highest in the nation. A pack of cigarettes is about $9. New York also enforces a use tax. If you buy something out of state, but use it here, you are supposed to pay New York taxes on it.

Police are actively revenue generating EVERY DAY I go to work. We have the red light cameras now generating tickets as well.

They try to block every exit and turn up the heat.

We all want progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.

-C. S. Lewis

Semi-nice home for $175,000?

Here is what homes in my area valued at $380,000 look like.
http://photos3.zillow.com/p_d/ISy0vpopdlmco3.jpg
(There is a row of similar homes. Used to be military housing.)

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

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That "Use Tax" seems totally unconstitutional...

How can they tax interstate commerce?

I'd rather be a hungry patriot than a satisfied slave.

Debbie's picture

Wow!!

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Debbie

These will be the states that

These will be the states that collapse the quickest in the complete and total economic collapse.

Well if you look for a correlation

between freedom and direct and indirect taxation I'm sure you will find that the more you get taxed the less free you are. I live in New Jersey and not only do I have crazy high prop taxes there are also
crazy high

indirect taxes like:

Tolls the turnpike and Garden State Parkway have gotten out of control.
Tolls into New York City are horrendous 12 dollars just to get into the city.

Permits for everything. In New Jersey you need pretty much a permit for everything. You want to park your car on the street permit if you don't have one most towns will fine you mine the fine is 50 bucks, you want to install a fence in your yard permit, you want to own a gun permit you want do carpentry work permit you want fish permit. Soon breathing is going to require a permit. On top of that permits cost money and generate immense revenue for the towns.

Certain New Jersey counties have legal monopolies on garbage pickup or garbage disposal through quasi private governmental entities.

Almost all business districts have metered parking and a parking "authority" that will give you tickets if you dare park on the wrong side of the street or forget to put a quarter in a parking meter.

Government agents in my town like to knock on peoples door and practically force their way in to see if you have "illegal" basement apartments. If they find these apartments you get fined 500 bucks plus court costs when you have to go to a mandatory court date. Unfortunately many residents of my town don't know the law to well and allow these people in thinking it would help if they are nice to them. Wrong!

Direct taxation is another story and is practically sickening in the state of New Jersey.

Taxes on booze and cigarrettes, a pack of smokes in New Jersey cost about 9 bucks

Income tax is ridiculous especially if you work in New York City you get taxed twice.

If I want to hire a minimum wage worker he would take home 290 per week and I'd have to pay out 420. The government keeps the difference.

If you can't afford to keep an employee and you haven't had him for atleast 3 years prepare to pay his unemployment. Usually this about $5000.00

Each day this state gets worse and worse. Cops are becoming assholes one yelled at my mother the other day who is a teacher and was on her way to school because she turned into the street she works on and he was parked there. He went crazy on her telling her that she didn't respect the law and that she needed to learn a lesson.

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    Debbie's picture

    Holy cow!

    Now I understand why people complain about these states.

    Debbie

    I'm glad NY an NJ got punched

    I'm glad NY an NJ got punched in the face with Sandy. They deserved it.

    How

    exactly? Maybe the politicians suck balls but there are still people that live in these states that want the same things you want.

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    Tennessee

    two of my sisters moved to TN from upstate NY a decade ago due to high taxes, etc...and are doing much better financially there in TN. Same topography, and milder winters too! Smokies are beautiful.

    RP R3VOLution

    I live in TN for many

    I live in TN for many reasons. All my family now lives here of course, there is NO state income tax(roads are kept up with a $10 per year tire tax charged when you register your car). Its a mild climate and has great scenary. Its fairly easy to find a job.
    I used to live in upstate NY for about a year....I have lived half a dozen places over the years and upstate NY was the most miserable hopeless place I have ever lived. I searched for six months and the only job I could find was as a gas station clerk, part time. It seemed almost everyone was poor, at least the average person.NY then had the gall to have an income tax and reduce my already pathetic paycheck. It was a beautiful place to live and the housing was cheap(no one could afford it otherwise). My determination before getting the hell out of dodge was the only thing NY was good for was to visit..maybe own a cabin in the mountains for a summer getaway. I left there and went down to FL...another great place to live with no state income tax...before winding up in TN

    I'm so tired of these comments

    bashing people from "blue" states. I live in NY and not everyone is a liberal. Most of New York state would be considered "red" but because of NYC we get a bad wrap.

    Second, I find it hypocritical that these so called red staters are the biggest takers on the government dole. In NYS for every dollar we pay in federal tax only $0.79 is returned, yet in a state like North Dakota for every dollar paid they receive $1.68 back.

    So please stop with the bashing. Our country has been on a downward spiral for many years regardless of migration patterns.

    Well said! Plus, freedom

    Well said!

    Plus, freedom aside, which of these states is doing better off economically? California and New York are as blue as they come, and are two of the most prosperous states in the nation.

    Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

    Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

    Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

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    Did you just say "Freedom aside"??

    .

    I'd rather be a hungry patriot than a satisfied slave.

    "freedom" aside.

    "freedom" aside.

    Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

    Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

    Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

    The California state

    The California state government is flirting with bankruptcy, despite some of the highest taxes in the U.S. It avoided immediate disaster by foisting prison costs onto local towns and cities, which are themselves teetering near bankruptcy. You can blame decades of Democratic rule for that. And millions of illegal immigrants have put enormous burdens on schools, hospitals, the welfare system, and law enforcement, because big business likes cheap labor leading to privatized profits and socialized costs, much like what we have in our banking system. Democrats love it too, because when the children of illegal immigrants are old enough to vote they vote for Democrats, who promise to give them free stuff.

    Well, California's reputation

    Well, California's reputation as a tax-high state is overblown; they just tend to get their tax from the income tax. Other states get their tax through property, sales, and business taxes. California is overall the 41st highest-taxing state. However, there are 22 states within 2 percentage points of California.

    Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

    Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

    Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

    How much of that prosperity is from Wall Street

    vs Main Street in NY?

    RP R3VOLution

    I don't know, but the average

    I don't know, but the average New Yorker and the average Californian has a lot more diposable income than the average Georgian or South Carolinian.

    Plus, this study looks like it is exclusively looking at economic freedom. How about social freedom?

    Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

    Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

    Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

    Gilligan's picture

    Three words: Stop And Frisk.

    .

    I'd rather be a hungry patriot than a satisfied slave.

    everything is relative. they

    everything is relative. they have more disposable income, but products cost more. southerners have less money, but more land.

    Somethings cost more. Like

    Somethings cost more. Like land, rent, etc. But anything that can be imported is going to be cheaper relative to wages for Californians and New Yorkers.

    Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

    Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

    Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

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