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What kind of girls are attracted to libertarian guys?

All the girls I meet either seem to be liberal or conservative, and they both seem to misunderstand me. I find myself attracted to more of the liberal ones but it never works out. I have never met a libertarian girl, but I probably wouldn't like them because I am not attracted to someone like myself. The liberal ones I like, because the conservative ones are too prudish, boring, and uptight. Does anyone else have the same situation?




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No.7's picture

Now that's exactly what makes girls like you so awesome

It's usually the other way around. I'll have her eating out of my hand until I say something political or serious. Then her eyes glaze over while a look of frustrated boredom takes over her face.... Guess we'll talk about horses or your sorority then.... (sigh). You're right, it is boring.

I've always been taught that a gentleman never talks politics or religion. I think that rule is only for idiots who can't hold their composure. Why couldn't two gentlemen discuss the two subjects peacefully?

If I'm itching for a date I'm usually asking questions in order to build common ground. Like biggie lol, "Ask you what your interests are, who you be with? things that make you smile? What numbers to dial?"

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

jrd3820's picture

Well...

I just told Lysiandad that it is just as hard for girls to find guys interested in talking about things like silver markets, drone policies, ending the fed, off grid living, and conspiracy theories. At least guys in my general age range.

It's a cruel world for people who have no idea what the latest TV shows and movies are about and who won what reality show and so on and so forth.

No.7's picture

It truly is a cruel world for critical thinkers

God's greatest gift to us is our ability to think. This is what separates us from the other animals. Yet, for some reason most people today do everything they can to avoid using their brains. It's unreal

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Cyril's picture

Maybe I'm wrong but

Maybe I'm wrong but I took it he implied "... preferably not at the first date".

LOL, that makes me wonder (since I didn't take such chance), btw:

what's "scarier" as a first date topic (from either side)? Politics, kids, or marriage?

But now I'm not sure if we're helping the OP ! ;)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

As a general rule,

I don't talk to women about politics or religion. If you can't think of other things to talk about, you got problems :)

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Cyril's picture

Dunno. But Math worked for me. And fantasy worlds worked for her

Dunno. But Math worked for me. And fantasy worlds worked for her. ;)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

jrd3820's picture

Ahh, good ? Lysiandad

I think marriage is scarier as a 1st date topic, because I am horrified of the thought of being married because I love my personal freedom so much.

I would love to talk about silver markets, conspiracy theories, drone policies, and ending the fed on a 1st date... I would be hate to discuss marriage lol

PS, OP, it is just as hard for girls to find a guy that wants to talk about the things I mentioned above, at least guys within my general age range.

Cyril's picture

Wise you :) Bah, like Michael said

Wise you :)

Bah, like Michael said, I believe it's not going to help to classify anyway. Feelings and intellect are about individuals, first, if anything.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

No.7's picture

If we talk about silver markets, conspiracy theories

drone policies and ending the fed all on the first date I would propose marriage lol

Then we'd go down to the tattoo shop and get our rings.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Cyril's picture

LOL. Probably wiser.

LOL. Probably wiser.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Definitely not lesbians.

Definitely not lesbians.

They're more into the Janet Napolitano/Janet Reno look.

Girls that are attracted to libertarian guys? That's like trying to find a small diamond in a mountain of hay.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

A libertarian objectivist

I was politically ignorant when I met a libertarian objectivist who turned me on to libertarianism et al back before Harry Browne ran for president. If you can hold on to one, they are the most amazing thing in the world. Just be aware that you have to have something real to offer and a sense of self akin to Howard Roarke.

In bed with

When a former chairman of the Libertarian Party was accused of "being in bed with the Left" his response was:

"I'm in bed with the Left because they're a better lay."

Last chance - take it or leave it -

http://www.numberslady.com/num.cfm

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

ryno, Have you ever had one

ryno,

Have you ever had one of those magic conversations with someone? You know the kind. You get excited. The thoughts you brought into the discussion quadruple, and you hopscotch beyond what you were thinking into something you're even more excited about. Challenged. Excited. Panting for more of whatever THAT was. Where the two brains rubbing, create something immensely more exciting than either of you brought on your own.

Look for that. It really doesn't matter so much about the outside layer -- political agreement, the right terminology, the same patterns of speech. The girl brain can disagree with your premises; she can long for different results; she can speak in phrases that feel off to you. It doesn't matter. The ability to leap-flog with someone else's brain is the magic.

When you find someone you can do this with, it will be of little consequence when you go through stages where one of you goes all agnostic and the other is re-discovering their childhood Christianity. Or one goes liberal while the other goes anarchist. Thinking people will go through all sorts of meandering stages. Thinking people in intimate relationships need each other to sound out and play off each others' minds. That's the magic. Not situational agreement -- this political label or that set of ideas, but the deeper level of loving the vibe of how the other mind works with yours for the whole trip.

We should grow; we should change each other in intimate relationships. Look for someone who excites you intellectually, whose mind you like to rub against and change with.

You wrote that both conservative and liberal women "misunderstand" you. Sound to me that you're just expressing the age-old gender gap. Women misunderstand you. Nothing political or ideological about that. Sex differences are our most in-your-face opportunity to take in the "other."

Your concern here is about women misunderstanding you. What if you flipped that? What if, rather than getting with a woman and saying a bunch of stuff that she could misunderstand, you claimed the power and focused on understanding her? (You do realize that the person in a relationship with the most need to be understood is, by definition, the taking a weak position, asking for more from the other person?) Flip it. Exert a powerful mind, more interested in understanding than being understood. I'm betting you'll find far more interesting set of women than when you put off a I-need-to-be-understood vibe.

By the way, when you say the conservative women you date are "prudish, boring, and uptight," you are most likely speaking about how they are around you. People -- yes, even women -- are many things and exhibit different parts of themselves depending on who they're with. I've never met a woman who longs to be prudish, boring or uptight. I've been in discussions with many women who talked about being with a guy who provoked such characteristics. If you stare at her boobs and she's not a floozy, she's going start acting prudish. If you are boring, she's not going to try to upstage you with the best of her cutting-edge ideas. If you're an uptight guy seeking to be understood, you're not going to provoke a let-it-all-hang vibe in the woman with you.

As several previous posters have said, the thing is to BE the kind of GUY who attracts the kind of GIRL who lights your fire. And don't make that fire be all about some set of beliefs. The most-intimate man-woman thing is deeper, more profound, and lasting than any of the ways we try to work out a social/political system that best serves us -- here and now, for where we are here and now.

And ultimately, as my mother always told me, it come down to sex. We commit to the other because we're different enough to be excited and provoked by, and because of, the seemingly absurd fit. You have to want that woman. You want her even when you disagree about everything else. You want the physical, and the physical, I believe, bonds us across all sorts of meandering intellectual/political/spiritual quests. If the sex is good, as my mom says, everything else is fodder for a secure and seeking mind.

Drat, I'm thinking I'm going to be completely horrified by posting this. I'm thinking I'll delete when my senses retake me. I'm also thinking that I've been married to a man who's provoked me and been a constant source of the kind of discussions that make my ideas more, and all the changes we've been through intellectually separately and all the times we've disagreed and fought and trusted each other anyway. All all the times it hardly mattered that we believed entirely different -- politically, about some friend's circumstance, or about God's being or purpose -- because we wanted each other physically.

A woman who provokes you to think in ways that excite you. A woman you want physically, not matter what she says or you said. That's really all there is to it.

hey Wistful,

What are you wearing?

“...taxes are not raised to carry on wars, but that wars are raised to carry on taxes”
Thomas Paine, Rights of Man

Thigh-high chore boots, a

Thigh-high chore boots, a Carhartt bustier and a condom.

this kind :D

im no racist

But I would never date a green person.

A green girl was good enough

A green girl was good enough for James T. Kirk.

good point.. ^retracted

But she's also french. Green and french is a dealbreaker

(No subject)

For myself,

I don't bother wasting my time placing people into categories or groups and judging them based upon inaccurate labeling. Perhaps try to go deeper than their political affiliation and get to know the essence of what they truly are. I think a majority of people are Libertarians at heart but they may not realize it. Maybe once you build some trust with her you could potentially guide her to express her inner freedom-lover. Just remember that the true person is not contained within the words and definitions, so maybe it's better not to reject them before you have the opportunity to realize their potential.

Great topic... when we are

Great topic... when we are done here, we can discuss Kim Kardashian

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

I think they

took her out with a drone strike. Sorry.

haha

haha

lawrence

Women don't care about politics

Especially the ones who would be libertarian. I mean, it's not a rule, the opposite is out there and on this forum, but really, if you're sick of being single get your ass to the gym and start eating protein. If your abs are nice enough, the plus one will vote anyway you like.

Keep searching, brah.

When There Aren't Enought Real Men Around, Women Rise Up

to come to the rescue of their republic...Problem is many of these women are liberals and cause great mischief in public office. I'm willing to bet Diane Feinstein's husbands is a big condescending wimp.DiFi wears the pants in that family. I have found the worst type of female creature on earth is a lawyer, which she was or is.

Many men have been so emasulated these days, (too much mama and not enought papa) they grow up being involved in meaningless persuits, such as butt f@c^ing..They're never going to have children from that end. But, they keep a trying...

Haha... too much

Haha... too much

Liberal

Girls are the worst and they are stupid too. At least the ones I have dated. But I do live in New Jersey and Jersey really sucks when it comes to people.