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Paul McCartney - Glass Walls (Disturbing)

WARNING: THIS IS A VERY DISTURBING VIDEO. But I think it's a necessary video for the public to see, to help put a stop to factory farms, which is why I'm posting this.

"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian." -- Paul McCartney

Please help put the factory farms out of business by going either vegan; pescetarian; or, if you eat meat, buying Certified Humane animal products only -- and please share this video. Thanks and Happy Easter.


http://youtu.be/sTifP6idBPs

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Are you a Komodo Dragon?

Are you a Komodo Dragon? There are a lot of things we can do they cannot do. Which is why we rule the planet. I simply choose to not eat meat because I don't have to in order to live. Either do you. You can CHOOSE to eat meat, but there exists technology and food to be athletic and in shape without it. Why kill when we don't need to? Ron Paul thinks the same way regarding war. I don't see why people act like people at a Sarah Palin rally when it comes to animals on this forum, but then defend anti-war stances in all other cases.

I so agree.

As the line goes, "There are monsters among us." But most people, meat eaters and vegetarians alike, have a heart and don't want to see animals tortured, thank God. So we continue to spread the message about factory farms. Good will always prevail in the end.

Newsflash.

Ron Paul eats meat, as do a good number of people who are active in the liberty movement. There is a difference between killing for food, or executing murderers under a system of judicial law, and simply waging wars on each other based on resource distribution. The fact that you keep confusing/conflating categories of morality and automatically assume that because animals are living that they are equal to us makes me question your intelligence.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

Just curious, what do you

Just curious, what do you think is the difference between man and other animals?

Your question implies ignorance, not curiosity.

The fact that you need me to explain the difference between man and other animals speaks more loudly than any answer that I would give you, so I'm going to simply allow you to figure it out for yourself, given that it is something that is immediately obvious to anyone who hasn't had their minds scrambled by the moral equivocation between species pushed by lunatics like Peter Singer.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

Have you ever had a pet Mr

Have you ever had a pet Mr Unicorn, or raised a cow? Or had a parrot, or taken care of an injured bird?

I have, so perhaps you can tell me if I was projecting my emotions onto them or was my dog genuinely happy to see me back after a month, so even though he had taken a long run just before he ran to fetch the ball we play with.

I had fish in the back pond and would feed them every morning around 6. My mom, looking out from the balcony could see them swimming to the surface around that time even though I was still asleep.

So now will you please answer the question, rather than resorting to insults?

Whoa!

just pointing out that nature is also cruel and painful. It isn't just a man to animal thing.
Wether you eat meat or not is entirely up to you...as it should be.
But when there is blatant manipulation from the UN and it's crony activists because they have an agenda all of their own, then it gets up my nose a tad.
I am lucky that where I live we don't have factory farming (yet). Animals graze outside, on grass, and are left to behave as animals should.

To quote a line in the movie...

...the African Queen, "Nature is what we are put on this earth to rise above."

"For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." ~ Romans 1:20

Read your bible again.

"As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him." ~ Romans 14:1-3

The bible does not grant you moral superiority for abstaining from meat, as your dubiously intended quote would suggest. I'm more than happy to accommodate anyone who chooses a different diet than me, but the sort of holier than thou attitude of everyone in the vegan scene posting on here is absolutely intolerable.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

The scripture you pointed out...

...was not written to us. It was a letter to the early church in Rome BEFORE Christ fulfilled the law by destroying the temple and putting an end to animal sacrifice. When that epistle (letter) was written, animal sacrifices were still going on, thus Paul's statement about meat.

"It is finished" -- the Mosaic law was fulfilled by Christ, the true Lamb of God, who in 70 AD put an end to animal sacrifices to atone for sin.

"In that day the wolf and the lamb will live together; the leopard will lie down with the baby goat. The calf and the yearling will be safe with the lion, and a little child will lead them all." ~ Isaiah 11:16

Your exegesis is illogical.

There is no significance to the temple being destroyed and the gospel being fulfilled, it was a providential fulfillment of a prophecy that is not binding on anything apart from an abrogation of the Old Jewish Ceremonial and Judicial Laws. Christ was the temple that was destroyed and rebuilt after 3 days, and the end of ritual sacrifice has no bearing on the dietary decisions of any congregation, be it Jewish or Gentile.

You are in no position whatsoever (neither is any clergy member for that matter) to dictate anything that is not a moral teaching of the scriptures or light of nature, nor are you permitted to attempt to bind consciences by attaching religious authority to secular practices. What you are doing is heavily similar to what Legalism-based heretics have been pushing for the past 5 centuries via the Anabaptist movement.

"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." (Matthew 15:11)

Furthermore, your exegesis concerning Isaiah 11:16 reeks of a kooky fundamentalist interpretation with a slight hint of legalistic manipulation. Do you seriously believe that if you put a little child in the midst of lions, leopards and wolves that he/she won't be torn apart within minutes? And if not, you would have to concede a metaphorical interpretation, you'll need to provide a traditional basis for asserting any claim that is in harmony with Christian Orthodoxy.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

No significance?

No significance to the temple being destroyed and the gospel fulfilled???! Was that a joke?

The culmination of Scripture (the letter to the seven churches, which we know as the book of Revelation) was about the destruction of the temple, the end of animal sacrifices -- the end of the Mosaic law and the beginning of the New Jerusalem, which we inherit by faith alone. Christ's most apocalyptic pronouncement of prophecy being fulfilled, but that holds no significance to you?

Let me guess -- you've been reading Hagee and LaHaye books instead of the actual Bible; right?

Right.

Your reading comprehension isn't very strong, is it?

I stated that there is no significance to the temple being destroyed as it pertains to the Gospel being fulfilled, the Gospel is fulfilled in Christ's resurrection, the temple being destroyed only pertains to the condemnation of the Old Judaic order for their abandonment of their covenant with God.

Hagee and LaHaye are Zionists and Judaizers. The fact that you would think to associate me with them because I'm not swallowing your Anabaptist influenced Vegan nonsense is more a testimony of your ignorance than any short-comings in my exegesis.

Furthermore, you have yet to associate the practice of consuming meat with animal sacrifices, the two are not synonymous with each other except insofar as the abrogated ritual at passover is concerned. You don't eat what you sacrifice, you burn it as an offering to God. Are you really this dense or are you just trying to troll now?

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

I repeat my question

No significance??! As for the attempt to qualify your statement, as Will Rogers said, "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."

With regard to animal sacrifices and the symbolism of eating meat, if you read scripture in context instead of in a vacuum, you would understand what Paul meant -- that he obviously wasn't speaking about vegans and meat eaters!

btw, for future reference, name calling, as everyone knows, is a sign of losing an argument.

cool quote. While i'm not too

cool quote. While i'm not too religous. there is alot of stuff in the books worth learning from

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Genesis 9:3

Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

Sometimes you people really set yourselves up!

People can move. People are living. Can we eat people too?

Here's another Bible verse

"The godly care for their animals, but the wicked are always cruel." ~ Proverbs 12:10

btw, Man was vegan until the time of Noah and animal sacrifices pointing to Christ. fyi, "It is Finished!"

You should know better Mr McCartney.

before you force your and your 1st wife's opinion on us all, check out the connection between vegetarianism and breast cancer. http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.aspx?Id=2670
A woman's breast is made up of alot of fat, and we need a little animal fat in our diet to keep our breasts healthy.
Instead of using shock tactics to get people to remove an entire food group from their diet, why don't you lobby to make the slaughter industry more accountable? Or are you a UN stooge too?

Didn't watch the video, then?

Or you'd know that subject has nothing whatsoever to do with the treatment of animals in factory farms.

By the way, since you changed the subject, casein, which is in dairy, which Linda McCartney used a lot of in her recipes (she was vegetarian, not vegan) causes breast cancer and colon cancer. Guess you forgot about that or you never read the China Study.

Didn't read my post then?

No where did I mention factory farms, or Linda McCartney being a vegan.
And in the opening shots of this propaganda video, those cows hanging upside down with their throats cut, weren't being brought in for milking!
How come mankind has thrived for thousands of years on meat, milk and cheese products, but now suddenly it causes cancer?

Then why make a comment?

This thread is about the inhumane factory farms, not whether meat is good for you. And, btw, if you don't think cows are slaughtered after the dairy factories are done getting all the milk from them they can, then you don't know what's going on in these factory farms.

But since you opened the door to health, to refresh your memory of what you said about Linda McCartney, here's your quote:
"check out the connection between vegetarianism and breast cancer."

So since you opened the door on that subject, man has thrived on a plant-based diet. In fact, until the time of Noah, man was vegan. So much for the paleo theory. Even after meat was permitted, the meat-based diet was what the rich ate. The findings in mummies (the ultra-rich) showed coronary heart disease, which they didn't get from vegetables.

"Everything is permissible, but not everything is helpful. Everything is permissible, but not everything builds up." ~ Corinthians 10:23

This is just a question.

How do "we" know that mankind was vegan up until Noah?

Genesis 1 thru 9

You can read that if you'd like.

Of course, if you don't believe in the Bible, then you might not believe there was a Noah either. I do.

Like the China study. They sent out a questionnaire.

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Free includes debt-free!

Wrong.

Time to read up on the China Study, which was to find out why people in the urban areas of China were getting cancer and the people in the rural areas were not. Campbell of the China Study had his research grants pulled by government because the meat and dairy industries, WHICH SIT ON THE ADVISORY BOARD, didn't like the China Study's conclusions that meat and dairy cause cancerous tumor growth.

China Study was not a study.

It was a questionnaire collected by food propagandists who know the answer before they started.

People reject the so-called China Study because it is Junk Science.

Free includes debt-free!

Time to do some research

Don't listen to the meat and dairy industries who put out that nonsense about the China Study. Read for yourself about the China Study, if for your own health at least:

http://www.thechinastudy.com/

I refuse to feel guilty for being born a human

and for being on top of the food chain. I don't want to see any other living thing being tortured, but there is a line that is drawn, even though it is gray and depends on the prey, the predators, and the circumstances involved.

Modern industrial farming methods aren't perfect, neither were ancient farming methods...in fact, nothing that man does is perfect. But at least there's an attempt made by some if not most in the farming industry to be humane about it and to waste as little as possible. Some farms, like Polyface Farms, are more humane than others, and we can choose to approve of them with our wallets.

If one feels strongly enough about this issue, then go ahead and do something about it. I totally respect that. However, I might also suggest that you look into the inhumane treatment of plants as well while you're at it. There are some out there that would argue that plants also have feelings and a spiritual energy and that we must treat them with respect. Others will argue that our mere breathing is hurting the planet. Where does it all end?

"Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth." - George Washington

Some people will say anything...

...to justify evil. God did not give animals the capacity to feel pain, fear, and sorrow so that man could do whatever they like with them.