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Proposal to limit the standing army for the country to 5,000 men.

Today I learned...

"There was a proposal at the Constitutional Convention to limit the standing army for the country to 5,000 men.

George Washington sarcastically agreed with this proposal as long as a stipulation was added that no invading army could number more than 3,000 troops!"

It's just interesting to me that the size of the army was apparently a concern. That, along with the second amendment indicates how real the threat of the government to the people was/is. And yet today our Jewish media has everyone crying treason at the very notion of the idea. Interesting.

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Maintaining a navy or having

Maintaining a navy or having a training ground and a standing army are two different things.

A standing army has standing orders - ie invade this country, search homes, have check points. It is actually doing something. They should only exist in times of war with declarations of war, and against other countries, not our own.

Contrast this to a PEACE OFFICER. A peace officer ideally should have no standing orders. He only acts on complaints from real people that someone else is harming them - ie real victims making complaints. He does not - ideally in history, have standing orders to "write out traffic tickets", "look for automobile violations", "enforce city zoning laws", etc. He only acts on actual complaints from local citizens to KEEP THE PEACE - and not on existing standing orders.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Contrast peace officer above

Contrast peace officer above with the origination of the word police - which was originally a military term. and meant policy enforcer.

police (n.)
c.1530, at first essentially the same word as policy (n.1);
...
The first force so-named in England was the Marine Police, set up 1798 to protect merchandise at the Port of London. Police state "state regulated by means of national police" first recorded 1865, with reference to Austria. Police action in the international sense of "military intervention short of war, ostensibly to correct lawlessness" is from 1933. Police officer is attested from 1800. Police station is from 1817.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Many reponses I see

on threads make Constitutional arguments for everything.

Problemm is, the criminals in charge have disdain for the Constitution.

The criminals (our elected officials) also hold any citizen that respects the Constitution as hostile and even a terrorist.

We are living in a post-Constitutional America.

Sad but true.

Hmmm.....

"Patrick Henry was elected as a delegate to the Constitutional Convention, but declined, because he “smelt a rat.”"

Reminds me of the GOP convention. The only difference was this time the rats weren't hiding.

Standing Army?

I thought the Constitution did not support a "standing army"...it allowed only for a navy (to defend the shores)...armies were to be funded only during war. Prompted by the fear of standing armies, the framers inserted the limitation that “no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years.”
That's why Congress has to appropriate military funds every "two years"...nice way to get around the Constitution and maintain a standing federal army.
The states were to provide a militia - not the federal government with a permanent army.
But perhaps I'm wrong - I'm sure a Constitutional expert could clarify.

Question is...

Will the standing army take orders to attack the militia...In other words, those of us that own guns!

That's it in a nutshell.

There was to be no standing Army.

Congress was given the power to "raise" Armies, and to "maintain" a Navy.

The language is pretty clear.