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Dr Ben Carson compares homosexuality to beastiality.




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Communist Goals of (1963)

Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963. The communist goals of 1963: Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”: http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
Charles W. Socarides, M.D., (1922-2005) was clinical professor of psychiatry at Albert Einstein College of Medicine/Montefiore
Medical Center in New York. Over 40 years, he treated hundreds of gays and helped about one third of them return to heterosexuality. The classic 1995 essay by the psychiatrist who pioneered the treatment of homosexuality."Normalizing" homosexuality was the first step to supplanting heterosexuality: http://henrymakow.com/2013/03/how-america-went-gay.html

jhon

as he should....

as he should....

I listened to the video

and I thought he explained his perspective very well, the title of this thread seems misleading. IMO I suggest people watch the video before commenting.

From listening to him he is against changing the definition of marriage. He is not against people with contracts and getting the same benefits as married individuals.

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I only heard the name for the first time

yesterday. My dad knows I'm into politics so he was telling me about him. I told him I don't follow who Fox News is promoting. If the Establishment like the guy, he's not going to change anything and the details like what their name is doesn't matter to me.

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OMAGERD

homosexuality is the DEVULLL

You are SINLESS, as is your brother

The self YOU made is not the son of God. Therefore, this self does not exist at all.
And anything it seems to do and think means nothing. It is neither bad nor good.
It is unreal, and nothing more than that. It has not changed creation, nor reduced
eternal sinlessness to sin, and love to hate. What power can this self you made
possess, when it would contradict the Will of God?

Your sinlessness is guaranteed by God. Over and over this must be repeated,
until it is accepted. It is true. Your sinlessness is guaranteed by God. Nothing
can touch it, or change what God created as eternal.

The self you made, evil and full of sin, is meaningless. Your sinlessness is
guaranteed by God, and light and joy and peace abide in you.
Salvation requires the acceptance of but one thought; - you are as God created
you, not what you made of yourself. Whatever evil you may think you did,
you are as God created you. Whatever mistakes you made, the truth about
you is unchanged. Creation is eternal and unalterable. Your sinlessness is
guaranteed by God. You are and will forever be exactly as you were created.
Light and joy and peace abide in you because God put them there.

I am not going to watch this

because his comments are irrelevant and I could care less about what he says.

That being said... Both are not natural and are vectors for multiple diseases due to the degrading acts contained and performed.

You can get diseases from "natural" sex too

Also, what you consider degrading, others may not. Your reasoning is ridiculous and devoid of critical thought. Diseases aren't transmitted because someone is "degreaded".

Finally, all parts of the human body are natural, so calling any use of the human body "unnatural" is equally ridiculous.

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When you judge them you will never know the good within them

"You have no idea of the tremendous release and deep peace that
comes from meeting yourself and all your brothers totally without judgment.
When you recognize what you truly are (Innocent) and what your brothers
are, you will realize that judging them in any way is without meaning.
In fact, their meaning is lost to you precisely because you are judging them.

One of the illusions from which you suffer is the belief that what you
judged against has no effect. Against the littleness you see in him you
stand as tall and stately, clean and honest, pure and unsullied, by
comparison with what you see. Nor do you understand it is yourself
that you diminish thus.

God doesn't judge his guiltless son. And all sons of God are
innocent, how could it be otherwise? In attempting to crucify your brother, you have
only nailed yourself to a cross and placed a crown of thorns upon your own head.

I wish the OP would include

I wish the OP would include at least SOME thoughts so people would know whether to vote this up or down.

Abhorrent thoughts clearly, and the comments here are why any neutral middle of the road guy like me would consider the DP forums a little homophobic.

Ron Paul is a great guy but he does seem to attract some of the most racist,homophobic and jew hating crowd. I have absolutely NO idea why and these ugly aspects seem to have emerged mostly after the primaries got over.

I think the liberty movement needs another big cause to rally behind so the unsavoury parts are relegated back to the dark alleys of the internet like stormfront etc where they belong.

i purposly left out any comments so that people would make up

their own minds.

I like Dr Carson as a person and I think he has some good ideas. But he is not someone I would support in any gov position.

What do you make of the

What do you make of the homophobia on the DP? I think the liberty movement needs to mate with the liberals when to comes to social values. Live and let live as long as you are non-black, non-jewish and straight is DPs manifesto right now.

To: godsfavson

On DP, the reason it has been successful is because it has a high toleration level for people who have differing opinions. That includes religious views.

To lambast people who do not support the sodomite push for more & more so-called rights in such a self-aggrandizing manner, well, it's no more ugly than your view of anyone else you think is "racist, homophobic, or jew-hating".

Just because many do not believe that 'men sleeping with men' is morally right, doesn't mean that they hate these people, and it doesn't mean they discriminate against them in the workplace. What it does mean is that 97% of Americans are heterosexual and don't believe in that perverse crap.

Don't kid yourself. Dr. Paul doesn't promote sodomy, are you kidding me? He & Mrs. Paul are as normal as apple pie. But, nobody here cares, including Dr. Paul, what these people do behind closed doors, but when they try to brainwash our children, enter the Boy Scouts, insert themselves into daytime TV in Hollywood & the movies, & attempt to change our cultural values by trying to water down the term "marriage", well, that's an entirely different thing! In an ideal world, we can agree as Dr. Paul does about marriage being in the church, but it's NOT ideal right now, and to just sit by and do nothing about what the EVIL ELITES are trying to do which is to wreck our culture, wreck us financially, wreck our family structure, well, I can't sit down and ignore it.

Personally, most people I know mind their own business when it comes to known homosexuals around them. So, I think your accusation is uncalled for. However, if you are a sodomite, then, I can understand your response---just full of more anger.

Haha, instead of spewing your

Haha, instead of spewing your pseudo-intellectual diarrhea and masking it in a golden mask of free speech, you could have summed up your response as

"I will say anything I want faggot, lol"

You are a child. I am not a 'sodomite' and boy am I glad. I'm also glad I'm not black or Jewish because of the hatred these communities attract. Doesn't stop me from sympathizing with them and protecting them from you and all other propagators of the most evil philosophy in history.

I am amazed Mr. Nystrom tolerates you, though I seriously wonder if even he doesn't think that such abhorrent speech, be it 'free' or otherwise has any place in a website founded on the principles of Ron Paul.

Distinction

I did not watch this, nor read the other comments, but just want to contribute something to the discussion that is often overlooked:

The "rightness" or "wrongness" of the behavior has a lot to do with who you are and why you are doing it. Straight men engaging in homosexual sex strikes me as unnatural.

What these discussions often miss is whether or not the people engaging in the behavior are straight or gay, faithful or unfaithful, loving or hating, and have a contract with each other (contracts require a meeting of minds, i.e., that both parties understand what is agreed to; no minors, drunks, coma patients, etc., and no fraud).

Literally, the thought of sex with any of the 100 people nearest to me at this moment is equally disgusting and wrong.

Hypothetically, because I'm straight, I'm repulsed by the idea of sex with my own gender, but since the bulk of men, hypothetically, aren't that appealing, either, it becomes obvious that this comes down to individuals and their relationships, and making a sweeping rule ignores our individuality.

It's time we stopped worrying about what other people are doing, and focus on our own relationships and how we conduct our own lives.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

The problem with homosexuals, or sodomites is

they will never be happy. Why? Because we all have a conscience, and so do they. They know deep down, no matter what they say, that what they are doing is WRONG. They will never, ever be able to feel 'ok' about what they are doing.

Why do you think this lobby group is constantly pushing for more & more? Because NO MATTER WHAT they try, they will never feel the validation they seek. It will never happen. The sodomites weren't ever happy, so they expelled their self-hatred by attempting to kidnap & sexually abuse innocents.

Well, we know what happened to Sodom & Gomorrah.

And, for those who seek to support this so-called perversion, this so-called 'lifestyle', had better think twice about what they are encouraging. Do you really want these people to be Boy Scout leaders? I mean, didn't we learn anything from the priest scandals that occurred due to such a lax attitude in admitting these people into the priesthood which really began full-fledge in the 60's, 70's, etc. America, as a whole, embraced these liberal attitudes. How will we know the "difference" between a pedofile and a homosexual that isn't one? That is a very dangerous game to play.

And, teaching our children that this behavior is "normal"? Are you kidding me? People here should know that the EVIL ELITES are aiming to not only destroy our cultural religious values, but also to destroy our families in the process. Think twice, before you unwittingly give in to this liberal ideology.

America embraced 'free sex', encouraged the 'pill' and abortions, established agencies (more government) to help young girls continue this free sex behavior, and ultimately to take away the moral teachings of the parents, thereby usurping the very core beliefs of our country, most beloved America.

You are absolutely right.

You are absolutely right. Completely agree. Voted up. They will indeed never be happy.

Why? Because you and your hypocritical ilk will push your own religion down their throats till they choke. You will promise them eternal flames and hell till their dreams become nightmares. You will call them 'fags' and 'faggots' and look at them as if they are less than human. You will call yourself a liberty lover and still judge what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms.

You will do this till they try desperately to change and failing that, kill themselves, at which you will shake your head and call the will and judgement of the lord.

I wish there WAS a hell. I'd make it my life's mission to give you and other religious freaks a free one way ride.

The topic is, 'Marriage'

Appeals to emotion are not productive.

I think an appeal to peoples

I think an appeal to peoples better selves is needed. And I don't know you so can't tell if it applies, but I hate it when people dress up their homophobia in cold blooded detachment and logic. We are all human beings, lets not pretend to be some kind of logic based machines please.

Well people who claim to be

Well people who claim to be so open-minded and progressive are constantly using animals as an excuse for certain human behavior. People who believe we are animals are just embracing their inner animal. And by me they will be treated rightly so. As far as marriage, let them do what they want but call out those churches who marry them as synagogues of satan.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

After Reading the Comments Below

I am starting to wonder about the mentality of some people here. Or is the site just dominated by trolls anymore?

skippy

His extensive

Medical training allowed him to come to this conclusion. RP gave the same reason ie his medical training, on a reply to a similar topic as I recall.

donvino

Sorry to Say.....

But the current media developed the culture of prolific and acceptable homosexuality. Same as the current media is responsible for developing a culture of divorce and broken families, rebelious youth, violence....etc.

They do their best to destroy the pillars of society!! So far, so good for them....

After watching this interview, I can't agree with this title

"There is no group, I wasn't equating those things, I DON'T think they're equal." He clearly explained what he intended. This seems more like people trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill and eventually a witch hunt. And no, I'm not a Dr. Carson fanboy due to his gun comments a couple of weeks back, but I do believe in fairness and honesty.

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He gave his opinion and

He gave his opinion and supplied a cogent argument. Everyone regardless or race, religion, or sexuality must be afforded property rights. I wish we could clone Carson.

At least incest involves

At least incest involves HUMANS LOL

Doesn't this include anyone

Doesn't this include anyone who's sexually active with multiple partners? And the reason gay men are whores is not because they're gay, it's because they're MEN. You don't hear about whoring lesbians haha. Okay, everything I just wrote is entirely politically correct but it's largely true.

I'm sure he will find plenty of fans here...

nothing surprises me on the Daily Paul anymore.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

I dont care if someone marries a tree.

...or falls in love with a rock. Even though I personally think a man saying he's in love with another man is queer, it just sounds goofy in my head, people are free to love whomever or whatever they want as long as it doesn't infringe on my freedom. Having said all that, buttsex and oral sex is nasty. I wouldn't ask anyone that I respect or love to perform or allow me to perform such perversions. I've seen it rationalized by the statement that "Homosex is present all over nature." Well guess what, humans have the intelligence, that animals don't, to know better than to stick their penis in someone else's rectum or mouth. That behavior is sick. I don't mean it as a religious or moral judgement. It's just physically filthy behavior.