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I need some help making a choice, How do I know which one is the correct choice?

I am thinking about joining a religion, How do I go about choosing the right one? How do I pick the correct one? It's like playing Black Jack by appearance so perhaps someone has a better method. Here is what I have found:

There are about 21 major world religions today.

1. Christianity
2. Islam
3. Secular/Irreligious/Agnostic/Atheist
4. Hinduism
5. Chinese traditional religion
6. Buddhism (see also buddhism by country)
7. Primal indigenous
8. African traditional and diasporic
9. Sikhism
10. Juche
11. Spiritism
12. Judaism
13. Bahá'í Faith
14. Jainism
15. Shinto
16. Cao Dai
17. Zoroastrianism
18. Tenrikyo
19. Neopaganism
20. Unitarian Universalism
21. Rastafari movement

Of these 21, How do I know which one is right?

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For the record, I am not seeking I only ask to invite people to think about the argument of religion. What makes one the right religion and another the wrong? Then Ask yourself, why religion at all? Religion is the basis for many wars and arguments through out the test of time.



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I would say everyone is missing your point. Thanks for the post though.

skippy

i see that you missed my

i see that you missed my point because my suggestion wasn't on the list.

lawrence

you left out the Cathars. and

you left out the Cathars.

and oh, i guess you wouldn't list that because they were all killed by the Roman Catholic Church.

too bad, wish you knew what they were about, as do i ....

because i would have recommended the 12th century Cathars to initiate you into their religion.

God Bless

lawrence

Choosing religion?

I was raised in a Christian home. Not a HUGE Christian home, like church every sundays and whatnot, but the prevailing religion in my household was Christianity.

I had a hard time as a young man, wrapping my head around the idea of some dude in the clouds looking down on us. I tried to be religious for a while, but eventually I became an Athiest.

After a couple of years, Athiesm turned to Agnosticism, because I had realized that just because I can not see, touch, or feel something, doesn't mean it isn't there. I am referring to "God" here. I became open to the idea that there WAS a God, but I was like Missouri, the Show-Me state. Prove he exists, and I'll believe.

High School ended and I joined the Military. In Basic I started attending Catholic Mass and started reading the Bible again. In reality, I probably only went to church during Basic Training to get away from the Barracks for an hour or two. I wasn't completely into it, but it was a nice escape and I did participate. I even gave a speech at my final Sunday mass before Graduation.

After graduation, I didn't attend church again. Once again, I couldn't wrap my mind around it. So I talked to my dad about it one night in the hot tub. He recommended that I look into Buddhism. So I did. I'm not a buddhist, but studying buddhism has led me to study other religions; hinduism, taoism, christianity, islam, and even (not a religion) Ancient Astronaut Theory. I came to the conclusion that most religions are essentially the same.

To make a long story short, I would now consider myself "spiritual" instead of "religious". I do believe in an afterlife, but I don't necessarily believe that one needs an "institution of religion" to experience it. God is within each and every one of us, and even Jesus said, "Do not worship me. Worship GOD through me." IMO, most religions are individual boxes of understanding for Consciousness and Spirituality. Instead of looking at a single religion, I expanded my studies to multiple religions. In the end, I found a message that resignated with my own individual perception of the world and I am happy with my conclusions.

Doesn't mean I have found truth though... It just means I found MY truth.

Anyways, I don't know where I'm going with this anymore so I'll end it here.

Good luck, my friend!

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Thank you for sharing Mike

My journey of faith, or quest for truth if you will, began very much like your own. And while you and I have arrived at very different conclusions, at least in so far as we have presently progressed, I am glad to hear your thoughts on this matter.

I trust and pray that your journey will one day bring you full circle. That what you now call "MY Truth" will eventually grow into a reliable knowledge and dependancy upon The Truth, or as I call Him, Jesus Christ.

In the mean time, wouldn't it be great if we could all just hold to and operate within the amount of truth that we now posess, with love and gracious acceptance and commonality of purpose?

Being completely honest, I do not expect the Liberty Movement will succeed, this present system of government being too well entrenched, not to mention armed. I have no faith in political movements, as even those with the purest of beginnings are soon corrupted and over run by what I can only call "followers", or those who have not embraced the movement on principle but because it's fashionable or expedient. I also have others reasons for thinking this way but I would rather not offend anyone, at least not at this juncture.

There is much work left to be done, even if it should come to nothing, my hope and faith in God, and my love for my fellow man requires that I do my part. Differences aside, I'm glad to know that there are thoughtful, spiritual people like yourself working together in this cause.

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

Choose strife for conscience and truth instead

There are no 69 ways about it.

Belief and/or faith mean taking something for granted. Like an irrefutable argument. I'm not protecting Wittgenstein's argument here, rather merely pointing that religion gives answers and stops its followers from ever really testing them.

Anyone remembers the movie 'Interstate 60'? There was a particular scene there with card test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTC3XkC7XYY

Some things people would never notice because they are conditioned not to. Religion, intently or not, serves the same purpose. Of course religion is not the only way that goal is achieved, but nevertheless - whole religious premise is about this.

Religion has nothing to do with truth. Nothing to do with logic. And lastly - nothing to do with freedom.

Sad. But there you go.

Only as high as i reach can i grow
Only as far as i seek can i go
Only as deep as i look can i see
Only as much as i dream can i be

Just Try To Avoid #22

"Statism"

Start by watching this 4 1/2

Start by watching this 4 1/2 hour video;
Vortex Based Mathematics - Marko Rodin

Why Religion?

Religion is man's futile attempt to define the infinite.

Have a relationship instead.

Read the words of Jesus, and the words of those who knew Him.

Such as these from John, his friend and disciple

"He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God."

Pray, be still, listen, learn.

Be sincere, be willing to change, be ready to grow.

Joyfully follow the path laid out before you.

Love God with all your heart and mind and soul and strength.

Love your neighbor as yourself.

Repent. Believe. Rejoice.

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

I was with you to the second to last word.

Delete "believe" and perhaps replace it with "always leave room to learn truth" and I am with you. Blind faith kills truth.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Faith need not be blind

The New Testament is a very well documented bit of history. Only the seriously uninformed or agenda driven individual could deny it's validity as a historical document. The texts, which number in the thousands, can be studied in their original languages with confidence, as I have done for years.

Someone may choose not to put their faith in these ancient writings because they do not agree with what has been written there, as there are indeed some very difficult things to embrace. Most will never bother to give the writings a serious look at all, an act of willful ignorance. Others may venture a glance, but only through the eyes of skepticism, seeking not to find but to refute. But for the honest individual of reasonable intellect, who actually bothers to investigate the matter, the historicity of the life of Christ is beyond disputation.

My faith is not blind Fishy, but actually a very well thought out choice that I have made, based upon the preponderance of the evidence, as well as my personal experience.

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

You either operate on facts, or on faith.

Choosing to believe that your faith is the same as a fact is how you blind yourself.
I have "faith" in things, but the key is I know it is my belief, and if I am offered facts that conflict with my belief, I will take the facts, every time. Christians, when confronted with facts that go against indoctrinated faith, will pick the faith, and pat themselves on the back for it all day long.
Have a nice day, and watch your step.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Have a nice day, and watch your step?

Have a very nice day yourself.

You know Fishy, you and I have had several pleasant exchanges since I became a member here. I enjoy very much most of your posted material, and while I don't always agree with your comments or conclusions you clearly seem to be a very kind and thoughtful person. So why have you waited until today to be dismissive and insulting? Have a nice day, and "...watch your step.", what does this even mean? Sounds rather Ceasarian. Is there something I should be made aware of, are they starving the lions as we speak, has my name been moved to some special list that the rest of us have not already been added to? Would that be the list that also includes the name of Dr. Paul, he is after all a professing Christian, and from all appearance a quite devout one?

You stated above, "You either operate on facts, or on faith". With the utmost respect for your viewpoint as well as your person, I must challenge this statement, as it is "in fact", patently absurd.

Matter and gravity are well established facts, and while we may not understand either to the fullest degree, most of us have a sufficient understanding of what is meant by both. When I enter a tall building, I trust that the atoms which make up the block and steel and stone that hold it all together will not quickly evaporate and send the building crashing down around me, I put my faith in what I know of the structure of things. Likewise, when I arrive at the top of this tall building, I do not cast myself over the side expecting to hover in the air, for I have an understanding of the simple law of gravity, and to ignore this "fact" would surely lead to most unpleasant consequences. So here we clearly see faith and fact working together, not at all mutually exclusive but dependent, one upon the other. Facts on their own serve little purpose, it is only when we choose to put our trust in them that they manifest their value.

My faith is not blind. True, when my beliefs were new, they relied a great deal upon a spiritual experience which was received and embraced by faith, and little else. And perhaps, that is enough for some people, maybe those folks who need nothing more than faith are better off for it, I cannot say. But for myself, being a thinking person, it was not enough for me. I put a great deal of time and research into discovering the factual evidence that my ethereal experience required. As it has been written, "study to show yourself approved" and "faith without works is dead." At no point in my studies have I ever encountered evidence, historical, textual, emperical or otherwise that has caused me to doubt my faith.

Many things have challenged my faith through the years, none have confounded it. Among those challenges, not the least have come from people who presume to know something that they had not properly researched or could not verify. It has been my experience that those who offer such objections, usually do not hang around for the response. Either they are so certain of their own beliefs that they do not find it necessary, or their beliefs are so flimsy and unfounded that they simply can't defend them. I suggest to you, that to cling tightly to a preconceived notion that was not the product of personal discovery, but in most cases hearsay, which thereby cannot be intellectually defended, or to cling to a belief that one simply chooses not to defend, requires much greater faith than I have exhibited here.

I must confess, many of my "brethren" make it quite difficult on themselves and others who share our profession, by acting in the precise manner which I just described, but please Fishy, do not lump us all together into one big group of unthinking, unreasonable zealots. There are many of us who are quite intelligent and have put a considerable amount of time and effort into understanding the physical universe, science, history, archeology etc, only to have our faith increased.

I try very hard not to be dismissive or insulting in my dealings with others who do not agree with me, and I seldom mention things like hell fire or damnation, if at all, it's not the way I'm wired. I occasionally fail in this regard and always regret it when I do. I am genuinely interested in your point of view and finding the common ground upon which we may all, strive together to advance the cause of Liberty, whatever that may mean going forward. There is a bit of contrarian in each of us or we would not be here, and I consider this a net plus for the liberty community, I hold diversity in the same regard.

However, when my views run contrary to the norm, am I expected to pretend as though they are not my views. Is it a requirement to be a member of the Liberty Club, that I disavow, or cease to practice a faith, that while clearly metaphysical in it's origination, has been greatly increased through years of physical investigation? It would seem so, which is somewhat of a surprise, considering the Patriarch of the modern Liberty Movement is himself a Christian. Would there even be a modern Liberty Movement without Ron Paul and his Christian faith? Not very likely.

I have personally supported Dr. Paul since I first heard him speak in 1988, and first registered Libertarian in 1996. Who else could this movement have galvanized around besides Ron Paul, and why has it done so? Because, in Ron Paul we saw a man of character, vision and integrity, far surpassing that of his peers, and we embraced it. Where does all this character come from that we see in Dr. Paul? The obvious logical conclusion, is his personal faith. Knowing what I know of Dr. Paul through observation, reading and listening to what the man himself has said, his faith is far from blind, but well researched, thoroughly investigated and practiced as reliable.

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

I was being as kind as I could

and still trying to say "I don't want to argue this point."
Agreeing to disagree is the best we can do sometimes, sorry if it offends.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Hinduism is not a religion

"The characteristic of comprehensive tolerance to differences in belief, and Hinduism's openness, makes it difficult to define as a religion according to traditional Western conceptions.[61] To its adherents, Hinduism is the traditional way of life,[62] and because of the wide range of traditions and ideas incorporated within or covered by it, arriving at a comprehensive definition of the term is problematic.[56] While sometimes referred to as a religion, Hinduism is more often defined as a religious tradition.[2] It is therefore described as both the oldest of the world's religions, and the most diverse."

Do your best have no expectations

Find the areas where they overlap

And learn about the basic principles upon which they were all constructed.

If you're really interested in this subject, look up Ken Wilber:
http://www.amazon.com/Integral-Spirituality-Startling-Religi...

I'm not a big follower of "Integral Theory" per se, but this guy does a great job of showing what the foundational principles of spirituality are by showing all the things most religions have in common, and stripping away the dogma.

Don't get me wrong, I am not proselytizing. Ken Wilber is not my guru. But there was a time when I was struggling with these kids of questions myself, and his theories really helped me make sense of things.

edit: replaced link with a better option.

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none of the above

but pick the truth out of each one,leave the other nonsense alone
it will just bog you down and slow you up
the truth from an "QS" hits closer to home with me,as most
is what i have come to believe from research
But i don't think you are really looking for a relgion
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

My research

has bought me to consider Ancient Aliens. I think the Bible is a history book and all religions had interactions with our ancient ancestors.

If you were one of our ancestors and had NO knowledge of current technology how would you describe what you saw. There are some excellent books, documentaries etc. That can be helpful if your interested.

I believe there are some who have access to this ancient forbidden knowledge. It may also explain why the Vatican has one of the largest interplanetary telescopes on earth.

Why so many of our ancient monuments all line up to Orion and the Pleiades? There is more that I don't know than know, but I don't dismiss what I do not understand.

If that is not crazy enough for you, I also am considering other dimensions that interact with our own, how this all works I do not know and may never but I do not rule it out.

Just crazy thoughts from and old woman.

Love Not War

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

Crazy thoughts from an old woman

Are there any other kind?

Joke.

Some days I am glad

to have any thoughts. LOL

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

Just keep 'em coming, please

And thank you for maintaining the good humor.

They are all 10%

They are all 10% right.

investigate all and think for yourself

Be an Omnist

Questions, questions

Gimme no answers
All they ever give me
Questions, questions

- Spandau Ballet

"...why religion at all?

"...why religion at all? Religion is the basis for many wars and arguments through out the test of time."

Why do you say it is the basis for wars?
Is this not the same argument for blaming guns when someone is murdered with a gun?

Religions don't kill people; people kill people.

How do you know?

Regardless of religion, Archeology, Biology, Astronomy, Meteorology, and Law have proved the Hebrew Scripture over and over again.

"And when the higher critics ask the questions that they should prove and can't, or don't, or won't, then when Archeology proves it they slink away into their holes and they shut up. They don't answer the questions, then they come to us and say 'Ha, well how come you aren't answering?'"


http://youtu.be/6ube48f2aWs


http://youtu.be/cLYQT9eYdK8

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Hear, O Israel: YHUH our God YHUH one. And thou shalt love YHUH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

You have no choice.

You have no choice.

13 No servant can serve two masters; for either he shall hate the one, and love the other, or else he shall lean to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and riches. - Luke 16

ha ha ha

funny joke

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

Here's a Perscription - Works for Me

Choose a religion or a spirituality that:
1. doesn't force you to follow the laws of any Man to be a respected participant,
2. believes that you have the same relationship to God as anyone else,
3. believes that God speaks equally to, and through you as to anyone, and you to Him,
4. doesn't have a liturgical hierarchy,
5. doesn't worship idols,
6. doesn't canonize sacrifice or martyrs,
7. professes no saints,
8. doesn't believe in an angry vengeful God that asks for anything more from you than your love and marvel for the world and your fellow Man; for if God is Omnipotent and all knowing, he would have no need for "worshiping slaves," and if he is not, then he is not God, and finally
9. encourages you to find happiness and transcendence in the peaceful pursuit of your life as you choose to live it.

~ Engage in the war of attrition: http://pacalliance.us/redamendment/

I'd give Zoroastrianism a

I'd give Zoroastrianism a real long look for sure.

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Satanism for sure!

You'll get the throw the goat! Plus I hear the chicks are hot.

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