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Daily Paul or Daily Religion?

I am religious, but that is not why I come to the Daily Paul.

I don't understand why a lot of posts lately are explaining Christianity. Fighting amongst each other. I think it's dumb. It creates division. The liberty community should be accepting. Now I may be alone voice in this argument, but may I remind you so was Dr. Ron Paul. And know his voice has been made clear.

Oh, how I miss him in Congress and questioning Ben Bernanke.




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I have to admit that I don't

I have to admit that I don't make it here as much as I did when the campaign was going on, but I haven't seen anything that would turn ME off. And I'm about as non-religious as you can get, while still believing in God. Hell man, live and let live. There are plenty of posts here about plenty of topics. Maybe you should turn the page. I consider everyone who is here in earnest an ally, but we don't have to hold hands every day.

It's gotten out of control.

Not only do we have Christians explaining their limited version of Christianty to us (and I am a Christian), now they are starting to set up their own ministries here: http://www.dailypaul.com/281834/the-will-of-god-in-chist-jes...

For the love of God, I wish they would take it elsewhere.

Ministries?

I am not trying to start up a ministry here. As far as I can tell I have a ministry where ever I am. We all do. We minister one thing or another.

Our very words minister to people everytime we open our mouths!

Agreed

I don't mind people appealing to me intellectually about any subject, but I do have a problem with aggressive shouting down, downvotes on comments which go against your religious beliefs, or attacking someone else's personal lifestyle because it is offensive to God/your church.

I simply don't know why someone who behaves this way would consider themselves "Christ like" or a fan of Dr. Paul's brand of volunteerism.

Enough mob mentality already, this is not the place!

We are in agreement.

hedonism leads to slavery--always has, always will.

I'm libertarian because you should be able to make choices. I'm a believer in Christ because you cannot choose the consequences.

You can choose to jump off a building, but you cannot choose the outcome--SPLAT!

This doesn't make me a non-freedom-lover. It makes me a truth lover.

Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

a lover of your truth.

The creation myth you have chosen. There are many creation myths. By labeling your myth the "TRUTH" I doubt your tolerance for individuals that choose a different creation myth or none at all. In your eyes, these individuals will burn in hell for not embracing your truth. This is not a solid foundation for Liberty.

It IS the Daily Religion.

I've started to feel the moronic, psychotic religious nutjobs who, despite their claims of loving liberty, are narrow-minded and intolerable to anything that tests their religious views.

Funny, really...

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This is what happens when

This is what happens when Glen Beck and his ilk are absorbed into Libertarianism. Eventually there's no Libertarianism left and you only have Neo-Neo-Cons.

and they will eat the Liberty movement

from the inside. It has happened before. Beware.

Honestly

As a minister I don't read these posts or hardly ever comment on them anymore. There is way to much wacky stuff ... If you stick to the fundementals you can't go wrong. Any group that raises their documents to that of the scripture or is needed to interpret scripture is shady.

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Ya know,

religious groups are the first to raise their documents to that of scripture. Constitutionalists stand accused of the same thing. I personally agree with you. It is the base truths and not the time-altered understanding of texts that are important.

Actually, according to the

Actually, according to the posting profile of this poster, he is a Mormon, who was just posting how aggrieved he was at the "is Mormonism Christianity" thread right before this one. That thread is a very old thread that has been running since Romney was running.

To post about how he doesn't want to hear about Christianity, on Christian Passover, of all days, after carrying on about his Mormonism is dishonest.

This thread disgusts me because of the context. Which is related above in case anyone missed it. I was online when this was first posted and saw the context.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

"he is a Mormon"

What's your point, you hateful cretin?

I said, he is a Mormon that

I said, he is a Mormon that was just posting about his Mornomism, but is complaining specifically about Christians posting about Christianity.

By the way, personal attacks like your post aren't allowed.

There is nothing hateful about my post. I'm pointing out the extreme hypocrisy here. You've got 3-4 Mormonism threads going right now, all of them attacking Christianity.

Pointing out something, hoping that people change for the better, isn't hate. It's love.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

You want to make comparisons?

Christian threads probably outnumber Mormon threads on the DP 10000:1, so you've really got no right to complain. And you'll be sadly mistaken if you think I'm going to get in trouble for calling you a hateful cretin. That's less than mild, I'm sure most would agree.

I also think you'll find that many of the Christian threads attack people for personal and/or religious practices that differentiate from their own while using out of context Bible verses to fulfill their agenda. So, who's being hypocritical?

You make some wild claims here about Mormonism, including that Joseph Smith was an "occultic witch."

I've never seen any evidence to support that.

The majority of threads you

The majority of threads you count as Christian threads are actually threads attacking Christianity with Christian posts defending it.

I've made no unusual claims about Joseph Smith being an occultic witch. It is fairly common knowledge that he was a treasure witch, used a sear stone, sometimes sacrificed animals to get information on where to dig, owned a knife with occultism symbols on it, was dragged into court different times over it, etc etc.

There is a lot of information about it online. They aren't books written years later, they are newspaper accounts and court documents from that time.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Joseph Smith, occultic witch

Joseph Smith, occultic witch search string.
https://www.google.com/search?q=joseph+smith+occultic+witch&...

I did some research on this awhile ago and collected original sources (the historical ones) for the above, which is probably better than a general search string is - requiring someone to redo the research.

If you want to discuss it later, I can dig those up. It isn't a (particular) research interest of mine - I find the same type of thing in many of the things I research.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

"I don't understand why a lot

"I don't understand why a lot of posts lately are explaining Christianity Mormonism."

There. I fixed it for the original poster. No, I don't understand how you can be talking about Mormonism, and then complain that people who talk about Christianity shouldn't be allowed to.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I thought

Being a Ron Paul Supporter means we can say what ever we want. Freedom!!! Come on people... stop the hate.. LETS UNITE!!

Being men and women capable of speech

means we can say whatever we want. ;)

Daily anything!

The freedom movement surely includes freedom of speech. The DailyPaul is the Daily anything, we won't limit your available speech and we won't even put up "free speech zones" to keep you out either.

Does Christianity, Islam or Judaism have any history

If it is a religion, it is about keeping time... we calculate time via planetary cycles.

I would have thought religious types would love to know the deeper meanings of the scriptures they adore, however as it turns out, I have much richer conversations about the history of religions, dieties and the meanings of so called holy scriptures with non-religious types.

Why is this? It's like, religious types lock up their brains right after accepting one version of time keeping.

It's hard to take religious types seriously when it comes to religion because one can't get too deep about intended meanings of scriptures and one can't venture back in history, to a time when their favorite religion was in another incarnation.

Does Christianity, Islam or Judaism have any history or roots?
Of course they do... go back far enough and you'll see they are adapted forms of the various Hindu sects.
Brahma is anagram for Abraham
hARI KRIShna is CHRISt, as in ARIan CHRIStian
Shiva kALI - Islam, the religion of ALI

Really?

"Does Christianity, Islam or Judaism have any history or roots?
Of course they do... go back far enough and you'll see they are adapted forms of the various Hindu sects."

Honestly. You cannot figure out the differences between the Monotheistic religions and the Polytheistic religions, but you are going to lecture us on " deeper meanings".

Can you guess where your language - English - stems from

Far be it from me to lecture you on the deeper meanings of religion.... however, I suppose after years of researching ancient religions, merely out of curiosity... I may have a few leads as to the origins of our current incarnation of religions.

Can you guess where your language - English - stems from?
KISS!

It's all there, you just have to be curious enough to go searching for it. Unless, you live in a religious bubble which does not allow you to view your religion in context of time, history and other religions.

Start with Manly P Hall, Secret Teachings off all Ages - awesome book with details about nearly every Eurasian belief system in the last few thousand years.

Even the founders who were deists believed in...

a Creator. As a result, the U.S.A. was founded on immutable, timeless, moral principles that meld the spiritual and political realms. The purpose of the first amendment is not to keep the Creator out of government, it's intended to keep government out of the practice of religion.

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http://www.StandUpForYourRights.me/?p=1264 (Fast and Furious hearing)

Which founders were deists?

None of the founders who signed the Declaration of Independence were deists. They were all Christians, attended various churches, the churches they attended are known, etc.

In point of fact, you had to be a Christian to hold office or be a citizen. At least half of the State constitutions of 1776 had the requirement, others in the existing laws. Pennsylvania for instance required you to believe in the Christian Bible - the old and new testament.

So name one founder (one) that was a deist, since it's hard to be one when it excluded ability to hold office and citizenship. And btw, you can't say "Thomas Paine", because - as above, he wasn't a citizen.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

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Can someone give me an answer?

Question #2.

If prostitution is legalized (Nevada) and a female prostitution is a business, does she have the right to deny service to anyone based on race, religion or age?
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Question #1.

Are we to teach that being homosexual is good, encouraging our sons to some day find a man and get married?
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Interesting

Question #1- You teach your children what you will, I will teach mine that people comes in a variety of different flavors and that despite what one's sexual orientation is they shall be treated like any human being. no worse, no better.

Question #2- Really? Yes, she has that right to deny service. If she did not then she is a sex slave. Discrimination laws do not justify Rape.

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