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When did the Daily Paul become a Christian extremist website?

What is going on? This is pathetic. Christian extremists don't give a damn about liberty for those that disagree with them. They routinely fight to strip individuals of their rights. They prance around declaring that non-believers are going to "hell" and warning the heathens are under the influence of "Satan". Why are they involved in the Liberty movement? Because they need to weaken the local and federal governments so they can push their creation myth on EVERYONE. Look out Liberty Movement. They are using you/us......

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Wow, I am clearly concerned about

fanatical Christians who believe Liberty should be enjoyed by only Christians. WE all know these folks. They are enemies of Liberty for all. I made this clear in my post YET I am being personally attacked and abused by individuals that claim they are the good Christians here. How ironic. I'm finding it hard to defend the real Liberty movement. It is being overrun by religious zealots that have no intention of allowing freedom for non-believers. It is becoming part of their personal Crusade. Keep your eyes open real Liberty activists. Fanatics will cut you from the inside.

What the hell is everyone's problem?

He's not talking about ALL Christians. He's talking about extremists! That's like someone getting on here to make a comment about neo-cons and RINOs and everyone interpreting it as a slam on libertarian-leaning republicans. CHILL OUT!!! Stop being so defensive. He's just saying that it's worrisome to think of a good movement like this being overtaken by a group of people who misinterpret the core values of it simply because we didn't have the balls or intuition to call them out on their B.S. I don't see anything wrong with his comment and I don't think calling him a troll or attacking him is any way to have a real conversation on this forum. Yeah, maybe he went a little too far with the creationist comment, but jeez! You don't hit a guy in the jugular when he's just pinched your arm ...


Thank you

Our moderate Muslim friends are having the same problem all around the world. They didn't confront the growing radical groups within their communities. NOW they are fighting for the right to NOT be fanatics. It is time to expose these groups/individuals and recognize how they threaten the Liberty Movement. They will not hide behind the Constitution any longer. We must have the courage to confront them. Let them see how popular their bigoted Crusade is when it's completely exposed.

Obvious troll thread is obvious.

The individual who put this thread together seems to enjoy getting a rise out of people. Just take a look at all his recent postings either bashing Christianity and Rand Paul, or showing solidarity embarrassing failures such as the Zeitgeist Movement and the Occupy Movement. There has been a number of response posts speculating that this guy is a former troll who has been kicked off this site before. My advice would be to down-vote this page and move on, or notify the mods so they can deal with this guy.

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” - G.K. Chesterton

Ron Paul

Is a Christian.

Not so Crazy

I'm Libertarian ( extremist) and a Christian. It is really not as crazy as you think, or even incompatible at all, in fact I think believing In the Judeo Christian worldview actually strengthens the case for liberty rather than weakens it.

As a fellow freethinker/non-theist, I say....

F-Off Troll!

A few people like PUG (PatriotUnderGod) posted some stuff that is a bit insulting, divisive, and just silly. But, don't paint everyone here with the same brush.

My entire family is very religious and I have never, and I mean never, said anything against them or to them. You know what? My parents know, they knew when I politely declined to go to church after coming home after being away after high school. They've never asked and my family never discusses religion (occasionally politics, but rare)- which makes them perhaps two of the best example-setting parents around.

Yes, there are the "extremists" that will never accept or respect us. Screw them.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

I sympathize with your

I sympathize with your comment. Born and raised Roman Catholic. Parents are very...actually that's kind of subjective. Parents practice their faith religiously, no pun intended, well maybe just a little.
Went to a Catholic grade school. I was even an altar boy for 4 years. Attended a Catholic high school for 2 years.
I too stopped attended church services regularly. I still go every once in a while on special occasions, Holidays, Weddings, etc. Parents never pressure otherwise. We discuss everything openly. Religions, politics, race issues, sexual orientation. We don't always agree but, that doesn't matter.
I respect any faith anyone wants to practice. I despise "bible thumpers" of any kind, trying to ram their religion down my throat. If you feel your faith or beliefs make you self-righteous or superior to anyone else, we'll then you're just and arrogant ass.

I just discovered my new

I just discovered my new favorite TV show. Extreme Cheapskates on TLC.



Extremism is popular.

Extremism is popular.

maybe it's a sign that everybody is so comfortable around here..

that not only can they talk politics, they can also talk religion! in a civil, cozy manner. And frequently in the nude.

That's why political people love religion???

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are naked.

But that was a long time ago which means it no longer matters or is no longer true or something...

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I don't have a problem with it.

I have noticed the lame street idiots doing the same thing lately.

They understand they have to do something to regain the people's trust (though, they never will) so this is where they are starting.

Theirs is just a white wash to fool the masses into watching again. Ours, here at the DP, is the genuine article.

If you don't like it, fine. You can stand over there in the corner with the other 1 in 10 who agrees with you. And stfu after you have had your say as the rule of law demonstrated by a Constitutional Republic founded on Christian beliefs continues to provide values that follow the golden rule.

Anything less than that would be very detrimental to your health. Capiche?
And don't be replying to my post as your 20% time has already been alotted!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
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9/11 Truth.

77% of Americans identify themselves as Christian.

Any site that had that percentage of Christians would only be representative of the U.S. Are you saying that you think this website has a higher incidence than that? Or that the Christians on this site are somehow different from the Christian population as a whole?

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

If the Christians on this

If the Christians on this site are representative of Christians as a whole, then they are annoying and I don't like them.

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Its not about like...

its about respect for personal liberty!

Nobody gives a damn if you like them, or not. Just respect their freedoms and they'll do the same for you.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
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I like your Christ

“I like your Christ, I do not like you Christians. You Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
― Mahatma Gandhi

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I can't judge everyone as a whole.

For instance, I can only tell by your reply that I don't like you as an individual.

Didn't even read the post.

Bumped down the title.

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Weary me this...

I am so weary of constant disputes of doctrine. EVERYONE has their own "special" version of "doctrine". No two people are alike. Is there only one "CORRECT" doctrine? Yes, I believe there is, however we are never going to know what it is in this life. See you in the next one...

Beware the cult of "government"...

Yes. It's called the Holy

Yes. It's called the Holy Bible. period.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.


According to bible scholars like Santos Bonacci and Bill Donahue... SALvation has got to do with 12 cell SALts that are ESSENtial to the body for proper functioning. Each SALt is related to a month of the year. Depending on which 9 months you were in the womb, you will be deficient in the 3 SALts associated with other three months you were not in the womb. SALvation through cell SALts.


Okay, so we can accept that modern day organizations deliberately cause ill health amongst the population because it impairs the peoples' ability to think and function properly. IS IT SO HARD TO BELIEVE THAT A LONG TIME AGO... the church fathers decided to keep people ignorant of the esoteric meaning of the scriptures to prevent the masses from functioning at their highest potential?

The light from the sun, planets and distant galaxies all effect living organisms on earth. In fact, Angels of Light ought to be read as Angles of Light. Specific angles of sunlight have different affects.

For instance, if you LOOK at the sun right at dawn when it is just at the horizon.... The sunlight at that angle, through the eyes, will generate a specific and rare vitamin needed in your body.

I sure do LOVE the truth.

This is really pseudoscience

This is really pseudoscience at its best/worst. While you're correct about the root of the word salvation, you must understand that in science 'salt' means the product of a reaction between an acid and a base.

The anion is supplied by the base while the cation is supplied by the acid. There are millions of these compounds around and I can't even begin to describe how simplistic and information-deficient this theory is.

It's called the world wide web

You, so called Free Thinking, Liberty Loving DPer.... Five bucks says, you didn't even check into the claims.

I can't write a book in the comment section.... I've provided two names of individuals. Both of them, have loads of information regarding the deeper meanings of biblical claims. If you are looking for information about the connection between SALVATION and SALT, go get it. It's called the world wide web.

Remember to observe yourself when some bit of information provokes you to become rude. That's telling you something.

You think, you know about some particular area of knowledge.... you got troubled when all of a sudden, there was a possibility that you may not know, as much as you thought you did. This moved you to become rude rather than diving in and see what it is all about.

Good luck with the liberty stuff.

You owe me 5 bucks =) That

You owe me 5 bucks =)

That said, I did not intend to be rude and I never attacked you personally as I have done with some other people, because your tone was polite and informative.

You must know this too, however that not all claims are worth investigating. NASA is not going to send a probe to Mars just because I told them there is green space alien playing basketball there. In fact they'd probably take the time to laugh at me and write a snide sarcastic reply back.

And both my mother and sister are gynaecologists so I know enough childbirth to know that this is pseudoscience.

Again, why not just stick to science by scientists rather than by biblical scholars or whatever? Until it is in a peer revised journal you should always question anything claiming to be science.


I'm impressed... it took me weeks to go through just a tiny portion of the video lectures produced by these two individuals... I haven't even gotten around to reading more than a few articles.

And you dove into this subject and figure it out in a few hours.


Is you retarded?

"IS IT SO HARD TO BELIEVE THAT A LONG TIME AGO... the church fathers decided to keep people ignorant of the esoteric meaning of the scriptures to prevent the masses from functioning at their highest potential?"

Many of them went to their deaths preaching the Gospel, why would they be hiding anything if they were willing to die to spread the word.

You just made my point


Before you insult people on the board.... Please think twice or maybe think half a dozen times before you actually venture to insult another person.

It's very simple rules of engagement. If you are too lazy to research the claims or not in the mood to think too deeply .. then don't bother hitting the reply button.

The many that went to their deaths left behind the Gospels...
And you think, the murderers left the Gospels and their intended meaning unscathed?

Silly and naive.