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It's Time to Put This 9/11 Conspiracy Thing in the Right Place

I want to begin by thanking bloatedtoad for his DP original, "It's Time to Put This 9/11 Conspiracy Thing to Rest Once and For All". It's well written and very thought provoking.

It's not really very important what I think happened that day. There are much bigger and more important questions. Whenever I start talking to someone about the topic of the attacks on 9/11, I detect a lot of cognitive dissonance from my fellow countrymen. I can't even begin to hint at the numbers 9 and 11 before people think I'm a lunatic. Most people don't WANT to go down the rabbit hole.

So I ask, "Do you agree that the attacks on 9/11/01 have been used as an excuse to strip us of our constitutional rights?"

Everyone always pauses and then answers, "Well, definitely yes."

Then I ask, "And can we agree that the attacks were inspired by the fact that we've had our military occupying other nations?"

So far, I've always gotten a "yes" to this one as well.

"And have we been distracted by fake threats of terrorism, while the government goes off and spends our money with reckless abandon?"

"Are we in fact now allowing our government to go to war everywhere with impunity, even though practically none of our current wars have anything to do with the attacks on 9/11?"

"Have we all been blinded to the fact that Bush and Obama have the same foreign policy since 9/11?"

"Has the US not started kidnapping, torturing, and murdering US citizens without due process, such as in Gitmo?"

I ask all of these down-to-earth questions, and when I see the nausea start to set in, I ask, "Knowing all of these things, do the conspiracy theories really seem so far fetched anymore? In fact, do they even matter anymore?"

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Unsolved mass-murder of 2,790 Americans

... evidence points to PNAC, CIA, Mossad, Saudi Arabia, with outernationalists mercenaries with CFR grand chessboard players... this was a massive operation. The perps are still walking free ... and they are planning a new larger false-flag operation very soon . . . . . tic tok tic tok

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I take issue with everyone on the planet...who derides Truthers

To be a Truther, means that we want the truth, once and for all, no matter how far the rabbit hole it may lead us, and no matter how many people that we may have supported in the past, are implicated. How is credibility destroyed by that??? ANSWER: IT IS NOT.

The only alternative to being a Truther (one who wants the Truth)...is to be a Lieser. Who in their right mind would be content believing lies.

Heck, I voted for George Bush not once but twice, but now it is plainly evident that he and his administration, needs to be tried for war crimes.

The evidence is there. Incontrovertible. Undeniable. Beyond a shadow of any reasonable doubt.

My suggestion though, is to change the laws for such treason. No, don't feed the Prison Industrial Complex with these cats, who are not a violent threat to society, but just war criminals nonetheless.

Their punishment, when found guilty after grand jury trials, is that most of their wealth is confiscated and used to pay back the victim's families of 9/11, and the troops we have lost because of that day, and the victims in Afghanistan and Iraq. And these individuals...Dick Cheney...Donald Rumsfelt, etc...have to travel the world for the rest of their lives, lecturing and apologizing to the world on how wrong they were.

This ex-neocon is a Truther...and damn proud of it. Justice will be served....someday. A critical mass is being reached.

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

It is the exact correct way to approach this question.

By being either a "truther" or a "anti-truther" you immediately destroy your credibility. By drilling down to the causes and effects, and putting the "whodunnit" qestions in their proper place you can have more effect at waking people up by sidesteppign the controversy entirely.

Josh Brueggen
Jack of all Trades
Precinct Commiteeman Precinct 5 Rock Island Co Illinois

Why this itch will never go away.....

Everything happening today, War on Terror, NDAA, Patriot Act, acceptence of drones surveillance in America, torture, preemptive war, is happening in context of what happen on 9/11. The problem with many is they view historical events with tunnel vision and not in context of the entire picture in view.
In our country the lie (9/11) has become not just a moral category (right to preempt war), but a pillar of the State i.e. (War on Terror). For people of conscience the best thing to do is not to participate in fomenting the big lie, when truth is replaced by silence.
When the criminal are allowed to get away with murderous treason and put up on pedestal as our heroes and people to be respected, and nothing is done about it, eventually it will get to you, it will effect you personally - in the passing of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), Patriot Act and many other civil liberties limiting policies to stifle political dissent.

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Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

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Great questions. Thank you for posting

As an ex neo-con who voted the previous president/traitor into office 2 times (but did NOT vote for the current president/traitor)....ha I guess two wrongs don't make a right LOL.

Anyway...as an ex-neocon I can roundly and forthrightly say THIS about conspiracy theories:

The REAL conspiracy is the official government "story" about how 19 slightly-built muslim men from halfway around the world, armed only with just box cutters, managed to overwhelm bobby-builder pilots and passengers, hijack and penetrate the most heavily guarded airspace in the world, not once, but with four jetliners, and expertly fly them into buildings by men who failed their piloting exams...and how just two of those planes somehow managed to bring down in complete destruction two of the strongest and most massive office skyscrapers in the world...and then bring down a THIRD skyscraper that day...that was not even hit by a jet.

...and why the 99% of the steel from the three buildings was quickly removed from the crime scene and sent on barges to be (destruction of evidence) recycled in China.

...and why the Bush Administration resisted vehemently to even INVESTIGATE the worst mass murder event in American history for a FULL year...until families of the victims PRESSED and FORCED the Bush Administration to bring about the 9-11 Commission.

...and why the 9-11 Commission report completely DID NOT MENTION in its 800-page report, the destruction of WTC7 that day, a heavily fortified and guarded 47-story skyscraper that had tenants such as the CIA, the FBI, Secret Service, and many other government tenants that would seem to be significant and of interest...and a structure that was not hit by a jet...yet "collapsed" into its own footprint.

...and why the 10,000 page NIST report in 2008 $22,000,000 of taxpayer money later...completely IGNORED the prolific NYC firefighter testimony of seeing molten metal in the basements of all three of the buildings before their collapses...as well as significant videographic and photographic evidence of the same in the rubble piles...

We are living in a Matrix reality insofar as the official state-sponsored Bush-Cheney Conspiracy Theory is concerned.

Justice, however, is not far away.

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

This from Judicial Watch:

"These types of obstacles don’t stop JW from rooting out government corruption, however. When it comes to 9/11 JW has been a leader in exposing much of what the mainstream media has failed to report. Earlier this year, for instance, JW obtained documents from the State Department indicating that the FBI knew days after the 9/11 attacks that Anwar al-Aulaqi, assassinated by a U.S. drone in Yemen in 2011, had purchased airplane tickets for three of the terrorist hijackers.

This is relevant because al-Aulaqi, who was born in the U.S., was detained and released by authorities at least twice and had been invited to dine at the Pentagon. Yet the feds knew he had purchased airline tickets for the following 9/11 hijackers: Mohammed Atta, America West Airlines, 08/13/2001, for a flight from Washington, DC, to Las Vegas, Nevada, to Miami, Florida; S. Suqami, Southwest Airlines, 07/10/2001, for a flight from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, to Orlando, Florida; Al-Sheri, National Airlines, 08/01/2001, for a flight from San Francisco, California, to Las Vegas, Nevada, to Miami, Florida."