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Did the Roman citizens know before the fall?...

... would they have ever BELIEVED...their Empire was going to collapse...up until the moment it did...I doubt it.

The question is: where in America, could a patriotic Christian attend worship services, where the majority of the congregation and pastoral staff & deacons would not be hostile to my conviction that the questions posed by architects, engineers, firefighters, and pilots regarding the physics of 9/11 are legit in a Boston Massacre/Declaration of Independence spirit?

Our insurmountable debt, all the financial promises that will be broken; yet not announced in so many locations...it's all public knowledge. Americans just DO NOT believe; nor will they investigate it, nor will they fight against our DOMESTIC terrorists whom they've been conditioned to trust, place their hope in, or blindly think they can outflank or control!

9/11, a crime so intolerable, so severe, it's worthy of coast-to-coast coverage of the public executions upon conviction of the willful planners. And of the PAID deceivers, and their payors, who covered for them while the communist dictatorship was installed "peacefully"(that they thought would favor them, hire them, preserve them and their prodigy); revocation of citizenship and deportation & banishment to wherever the hated may receive enough sustenance to die in rejection, reflection, and repentance if they have enough humility to recognize how damnable greed, envy, and willful self-serving deceit towards your fellow man is abominable in the eyes of man's Creator, is also a fair sentence,

Foolish people, all of them who let America fall; they trusted in RICHES, not God....we've all "pierced ourselves through with MANY sorrows" because of the LOVE of money, we're all scarred from our experiences...but now, even if we caught ourselves and reversed course personally in recent years, as we have seen the evil cement, secure, and fortify itself in political power; let it be accepted, our enemies are steadfast, ever-present - our captivity is at hand, but do not think for a moment this escapes God's notice!

How does anyone NOT believe our oppressors, all masked in Judeo-Christian external association and ethical jargon, are God's choice instrument, moved against us, to prove to each and every one that we(as a nation) don't KNOW Him, His laws, acknowledge our sinful standing before Him, and do not understand that we simply have exhausted His longsuffering offer of forgiveness and restoration!...and it only took the master counterfeiter two generations to pull this off, because he knows the scriptures better than we do; he quoted them right to Christ's face once Jesus was baptized and began His public ministry.

Oh wealthy and prosperous America, we've employed EVERY excuse under the Sun to reject & dismiss the power of the Word of God; we've rationalized all our sins and all our compromises, while yet clearly seeing the net sweeping us away from freedom, towards bondage to tyrants, moving ever closer with the infusion of every last dollar into this consumption-based economy, printed out of thin air(backed by NOTHING); yet we lacked the spine to sacrifice our own lives, fortunes, and sacred honor despite the clear proclamations of both current and historical data, patriotic sentiments of our wise founders and other Statesmen; but above all, the preaching of the TRUTH by God's remnant, that is just as convicting, unpopular, and difficult to accept as it was in the days of the Old Testament prophets and the New Testament martyrs(who were stoned to death, killed by violent means, convicted and sentenced by rogue unrestrained potentates and their scared and deceived citizenry without proper debate).

These juvenile adults are now using the propaganda of unknown, unfounded, inconclusive tragedies to disarm us now; they're using God-hating, family-destroying homosexuals and trophy-collecting abortionists to divide and conquer the party defined by its reputation of morality and conservative principles...who thinks for a moment, that anyone existing(by force) under this Federal Reserve System will be able to form an organized, credible, palatable, popular resistance; powerful enough, wealthy enough, moral enough in arms, resources, and favorable in the eyes of the Amighty to SCARE the powers that be into leaving their posts voluntarily BEFORE bloodshed befalls our nation IF this Republic is indeed, truly, the LAST stand on Earth for freedom & Liberty?

My heart and hope for America, patriotically speaking, is the SAME as yours reader; and so is our call to duty in this late hour...I just shudder to think that we've become so proud as a nation, in the face and inclusion of all this evil we now condone, excuse, and employ for our own benefit and self-preservation; that we still prefer to tell God "we've got this one", because the jury is still out as to whether or not He exists, He created, or, that His mercy has run out insomuch as I know He is just, He is holy, He visits His enemies, and so a time of purging has come upon us because we say "surely God would not allow..." - and yet He has!!!

Our loss of Liberty is a direct result of our lost sense of His governing authority over our personal lives. Such is the fate of every last world empire that professes a form of godliness, but denies the power thereof.

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Attend church at your

own kitchen table. That's what we do - a congregation of 4 - it's wonderful.

And remember - don't mix up true faith with nationalism - they are not the same thing. Hitler did that with success. Shame.

This is not our home...we are citizens of heaven.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

ecorob's picture

8 of 10 Americans agree with you.

I am one of them.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

The Pax Romana would never fail - EVER

so they thought as the Gemanic hordes crossed the frozen river and invaded. Even as the countryside was ravaged the fools were blinded by the belief in Pax Romana and the original "too big to fail" mentality.
They paid the price for their arrogance, as we shall too.

And to answer your question as to where to go to worship? There in lies the problem - if you truly believe in Christianity and bothered to study a little - you would soon realize that Christ would never approve of all these churches and places to attend "services". You are supposed to worship every minute of every day and live as a christian. You are NOT supposed to show up on Sunday for an hour or two and think you are some good person - that just makes you a hypocrite - as are most of the people you are sitting next to at that point. So the real question is - why do you CARE what they think.
Did these people stand up and denounce the Catholic church as pure evil for allowing child molesting pieces of shit to find safe harbor within its walls?
Do these people stand up and decry ALL murder - or just the murder of good old WASPS?

Dont forget - it was the Roman Empire that built up Christianity - and the power structure it created - as a means to control the populace.

Oh, baby - lay some truth down!

I came to this silly conclusion: The teachings of Christ are one thing, the Christian Church is something else. I do my best to LIVE the way Christ recommended. I do my best to avoid churches. "By their fruits ye shall know them" and the churches have torn apart my family at the personal level, and been the impetus behind millennia of war at the macro level. I do not think Christ would be pleased with the Christian churches, and I refuse to describe myself as a "Christian." If I had a nickel for every time I was told by a Christian that I was going to hell for not being a Christian, I'd have enough tilapia to feed everyone on food stamps. (If any of you Christians want to donate a nickel with your insults, I'll use them to feed the poor! lol!)

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

robot999's picture

Thanks for that

just one correction. "You are NOT supposed to show up on SATURDAY for an hour or two...". Goes along with that studying thing you mentioned before and the actual words written by the finger of God to Moses on the mountain. Thanks.

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

LOL- Just one correction

Moses didn't speak or write in English so not sure how he is quoted in English all the time.

I think then is would actually say "you are NOT supposed to show up on (שבת) for an hour or two"

ecorob's picture

Mathew 6:6 tells me all I need to know about worship.

I have no concern for organized charters!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

the Romans knew their empire

the Romans knew their empire was going to fall. That's why they indulged in debauchery and put their kids in public schools


In The Meantime, You Can Try to Make the Best Of It

I totally understand your desire to attend a church that recognizes the hypocrisy of supporting a mob that blatantly ignores the Bible.

We all need to fellowship with those we feel comfortable with, at least, once in a while.

However, until you find such a place - and they exist - you can use your current place of worship to "go out into the world and preach...".

The fact that fellow church members do not agree with you might be a good reason to kindly point out the truth to them. How can they argue with "Thou Shalt Not Murder" or "Love is the Greatest Commandment"? What would they say if you asked them why they apply the Bible to individuals but there is no Bible preaching against those same individuals when they become members of a mob?

If you can afford it, get Tim Baldwin's book on Romans 13. It will give you a lot of Christian arguments that you can use with those who want you to support their ways of error.

"God does not support the devil unless the devil acts in the name of a democratic mob"

Gene Louis
Supporting a Needed Tool for Government Feedback:
A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

I'm glad all this 9/11 talk is dominating the DP this week!

I have been listening to a lot of Christian talk radio, and sermonaudio this week and last; they're right on their gun concerns, debt concerns, and DHS arming itself to the hilt concerns...I wish they'd "go for it!"...then I'd be confident in a revolution, regime change of Statesmen taking place on 2014 and beyond...but, I'm afraid our once Bible-preaching pulpits are resigned to let us go the way of Europe....

Cold, spiritually dead, rotting , socialist-subsidized, government-obedient, watered-down, dark assemblies where false fire is a profitable business is where we're headed if these preachers don't STAND UP and STEP OUT!!!

Without the professing Christian church in America, demonstrating a "truth above all" attitude, no hope exists for Liberty to be achieved; because the courage necessary to put satan in his place is hidden...this is getting both repulsive and depressing on a daily basis for me...I need this outlet!

where did this come from???

...this video linked yesterday, which I've never seen before, did it for me...


It's been 11 1/2 YEARS...how long after we're disarmed, will it take, before Americans scratch their heads and say "hmmmm....even that Sandy Hook thing was lacking credibility and provable evidence that the official story was accurate"...

Does anyone feel what I'm feeling?...MORE BOLDNESS