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To All Patriotic Americans: Obama To Honor "Hanoi" Jane Fonda

To All Patriotic Americans: Obama To Honor "Hanoi" Jane Fonda

Barbara Walters on Jane Fonda

Jane Fonda was on 3 times this week talking about her new book. . .
and how good she feels in her 70's. . . She still does not know what she did wrong. . . Her book just may not make the bestseller list if more people knew.

Barbara Walters said:

Thank you all. Many died in Vietnam for our freedoms. I did not like Jane Fonda then and I don't like her now. She can lead her present life the way she wants and perhaps SHE can forget the past, but we DO NOT have to stand by without comment and see her "honored" as a "Woman of the Century."

(I remember this well.)

For those who served and/or died. . .

NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR. SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!!

And now President Obama wants to honor her!!!!

In Memory of Lt. C. Thomsen Wieland, who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton [infamous North Vietnam prison] --

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED.
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA.

This is for all the kids born in the 70's and after who do not remember, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."

Barbara Walters writes:
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during the Vietnam War.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison, the "Hanoi Hilton."

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "peace activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward onto the camp commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.

>From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hanoi Hilton". . . the first three of which his family only knew he was "missing in action." His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. . . At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper..
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Banme Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received. . . and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as "humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget. . . "100 Years of Great Women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer, and she needs to know that we will never forget.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt,
USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron,
Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343




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Could you please post your

Could you please post your source Emalvini? I'd like to share this but can't without a source. Thanks.

Blessings )o(

What Jane Fonda Did in North Vietnam Was Wrong

As most military conflicts go, the Vietnam War was unnecessary. This article states that Barbara Walters said, "Many died in Vietnam for our freedoms." That is a truthful statement because I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1966 to provide support to stop the spread of communism. I knew that communism denies private property ownership and claims the ultimate right to possess all things material. An ideology that is anathema to democracy.

I was 18 years old and like many of my peers back then trusted what the federal government said, "communism must not be allowed to spread in southeast Asia." Just like monetary policy, I knew nothing about the underpinnings of how economic and financial markets work. The government waved the red white and blue in my face and I joined under the pretense of "defending our freedoms."

Jane Fonda chose the worst possible way to object to the war; she consorted with the enemy. She used her popularity to protest the war but her agenda was to promote communism in America. She did that successfully but then went all Hollywood and went to North Vietnam. She took her political agenda out on U.S. army and Marine POW's; young men who were naive and believed in their government's foreign policy propaganda. Her act was self-serving and contemptible.

Many Hollywood celebrities act this way today. They have mediocre talent and pick a social cause to draw attention to themselves so that some movie producer will consider them for a leading role in a film.

Jane Fonda is ignorant about independence, personal liberty and how freedom drives a healthy economy. She believes in the State and its unbridled power to enforce the will of oligarchs under the pretense of what is best for the American people. She does not deserve any accolades or praise for her despicable actions.

You "patriotic" Americans- which was worse?

Which is worse?

- To invade and kill over 3 million Vietnamese without your
Constitutionally required war declaration?

- To obey an illegal order and fight in a war?

Or....

For a private citizen to visit any country he or she wishes and say a bunch of words?

All of the US soldiers that were over there were fighting for a lie and those that died, died in vain.

Those that were patriots and realized the war was illegal left for other parts of the world.

AMEN !

very well said, my friend

Many were BOYS caught in the middle

Parents who served in WW2, friends part of the peace movement, they just tried to do what they "had to."
Jane did not just "consort with the enemy." She deliberately back stabbed POWs. Those men were not fighting for anything but their life at that point, and what she did to them was heinous. Just because a war is more heinous than anything an individual may do, it does not excuse heinous individual acts.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

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Very Thought Provoking Questions...BUT

Most of us her at the Daily Paul know Vietnam was wrong and illegal. But, that wasn't the point in posting this...

Why is BARACK H. OBAMA honoring someone like Jane Fonda? What the hell has she done to be honored? Why doesn't he honor Ron Paul?

Jane Fonda is and was a filthy traitor.. She says she still doesn't know why people hate her...Canyou believe that..?

I wonder if Obama realizes why he is hated so much? Maybe he thinks we love his tyranny...

Obama is doing it to annoy everybody, that's all.

Just like Air Force One's fly by in NY,

(Also stunts like this get the rednecks foaming at the mouth, giving the spies more dirt to use against them in the day of judgement.)

The important thing is for us to look at the situation honestly, as SRSR suggested. Weigh everything in the balance: now that the episode is being re-hashed, are we still MORE angry about what Jane Fonda did than what our military did?

Why castigate HER without castigating the ruthless, out-of-control military?

Now that's a blast from the past..

Why am I not surprised at these two as bedfellows? Anything to besmirch our soldiers...wonder if Kissinger has any input to the 'honor' being given.

Found this: "I made one unforgivable mistake when I was in North Vietnam, and I will go to my grave with this,” Jane Fonda says on the Oprah Winfrey Network.

http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/Jane-Fonda-Unforgivable-Mi...

If I were her I would decline the 'honor'.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

And you thought Jane was just another pretty face...

I am pretty much for not re-hashing Viet Nam, to much was lost in that war. But Jane Fonda committed treason, in no uncertain terms, and Hollywood made her a celebrity for it, carefully keeping her deeds from the youth. I think the moment one traitor honors another would be a GREAT time for an arrest.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

I'm not certain

I understand "treason" to be the levying of war against any of the united States or of giving "Aid and Comfort" to their enemies. As the united States have not been at war since 1945, we have had no legitimate "enemies" in this narrow constitutional context.

Of course, my "gettin' technical" does nothing to diminish the enmity that many feel for Jane, but it is improper to call her criticism of FedGov (or its enforcers) "treason."

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You know about the notes the POWs slipped her?

Jane got to visit the POW camps. Our sons, captured by the enemy, slipped her messages. She handed those over to their captors. It is treason.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

That's

exactly what the B**ch did...and I still loathe her for it...and I am not alone...

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Jane regrets "unforgivable mistake"

http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/Jane-Fonda-Unforgivable-Mi...

There, does that make you feel better? She regrets letting her picture get taken in an unflattering situation.

Please, Lord, an asteroid on this "ceremony?" Just a little one, no "collateral damage" just a little justice? Amen.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Funny how at this point in my life

treason doesn't interest me nearly as much as equal human rights.

The Vietnamese were invaded and attacked by "our sons" who, if they had been wise, would have conscientiously objected to the draft.

If ALL "our sons" objected, the Vietnamese would have not have endured that onslaught.

WHO is the victim here? Why do the lives of our POWs matter more than, say, the countless Vietnamese civilians who died at the US military's hands? Did you know Agent Orange is STILL killing people and destroying lives over there? And treason is somehow worse than that? Only if government is your god.

Therefore she gets a pass re: passing their notes?

And the consequences of her action?

How does anyone know she passed the notes?

How does anyone know how thoroughly she was checked before leaving the prison?

Genuine questions. I don't know the full story. I just know that treason is generally a far lesser crime than pre-emptive war.

Did you read the post?

The story comes from a witness who survived: "At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper..
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day."

Is turning four men over to die less awful than multiples of four?

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Feel free to learn more about Jane:

Feel free to learn more about Jane:

http://www.26thmarines.org/janefonda.html

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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One question

that was never answered to my satisfaction is:

We all understood the North Vietnamese communists would welcome Jane Fonda, who in the United States government facilitated her travel? Even in the 1960's, it wasn't possible to walk into an airport in the United States and say to the ticket agent, "Round trip ticket to Hanoi, please."

The heroes

The heroes are those who spoke loudly against the war before Walter Cronkite did. The heroes are the young men who refused to go.

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Ms. Jane Fonda has a nice place waiting for her...

Ms. Jane Fonda has a nice place waiting for her...

... for her posterity, that is.

Her posterity will be very lucky if her name is forgotten.

That's how nice that place is.

Too bad she probably will never even bother or think to repent.

Poor Jane.

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i'm sorry i said these things

i'm sorry i said these things

lawrence

Jesus Christ, i didn't read

Jesus Christ, i didn't read your story. That's f**ked up, sorry to hear that.

But you were a part of some evil machinery, yourself.

lawrence

Is it because The Gulf of

Is it because The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a alse flag event?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

support our troops (Xiu Xiu)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtpXsNIGNYs

Did you know you were going to shoot
off the top of a four year old girl's head
And look across her car-seat down into her skull
And see into her throat and did you know
that her dad would say to you,
"Please sir, can I take her body home?"
Oh wait, you totally did know... that that would happen
Cuz you're a jock who was too stupid and too greedy
And too unmotivated to do anything else but still be
The biggest and still do what other people tell you to do
You did it to still be a winner
You shot your grenade launcher into peoples windows and
Into the doors of peoples houses
But you wanted to shoot it into someone
just to watch them blow up
why should I care if
you get killed?

lawrence

what's so wrong with jane

what's so wrong with jane fonda?

i think you guys who were duped under the guise of patriotism, after a gulf of tonkin event that never happened should be mad at yourselves and the government than some actress.

you do know the North Vietnamese were being financed by the illuminati right? How else can you explain the american trucks they were using on the Ho Chi Minh trail?

i think dropping agent orange on the vietnamese people is a more despicable act than jane fonda sitting on one of those artillery guns.

as i recall, jane fonda has never killed anyone. you are siding with the people who killed millions apparently, in the name of patriotism.

lawrence

-1

Those boys had no choice to be there, they were drafted. 60,000 of them died. Average age - 19.

Imagine you're in that Hell Hole, scared, hurt, hungry - desperate!... The beautiful young daughter of American Cinematic Icon, Henry Fonda, comes to you. Oh my God, the hope of getting a message out to your family, your country. I'm alive! Please come!

And she hands over the slips of paper to the Commandant.

Unforgivable!

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

Mohamed Ali would not fight to kill.

There were choices.

Free includes debt-free!

Did you know you were going

Did you know you were going to shoot
off the top of a four year old girl's head
And look across her car-seat down into her skull
And see into her throat and did you know
that her dad would say to you,
"Please sir, can I take her body home?"
Oh wait, you totally did know... that that would happen
Cuz you're a jock who was too stupid and too greedy
And too unmotivated to do anything else but still be
The biggest and still do what other people tell you to do
You did it to still be a winner

lawrence