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Confirmed: ‘Batman’ Shooter James Holmes Was On Psychotropic Drugs

Yet another mass killer on violence-causing anti-depressants

Paul Joseph Watson | Infowars.com | April 5, 2013

Newly released court documents confirm that ‘Batman’ shooter James Holmes was taking the anti-depressant drug Zoloft before he conducted his massacre in an Aurora theater last July, underscoring yet again the prevalent yet underreported connection between psychotropic drugs and mass shootings.

While it was known that prescription medication was seized during the search of Holmes’ property, the precise identity of the drug has remained unknown for nearly 9 months – until now.
During their execution of the search warrant on Holmes’ apartment, police, “found prescription medication for sertraline, a generic version of Zoloft used to treat depression, panic disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder; and Clonazepam, usually prescribed to treat anxiety and panic attacks,” reports the L.A. Times.

Zoloft is the same psychotropic drug that Columbine killer Eric Harris was taking before his rampage.
Clonazepam, also known under its brand name Klonopin, has been labeled “the world’s deadliest pill,” in that it “dramatically affects the functioning of the brain” and is highly addictive. Long term use of the drug has been linked with “violence and aggression”.

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Newsflash:

When crazy people are prescribed anti-depressants, they're still crazy!

Who'da thunk?

If these drugs caused craziness, this would be discovered in blind trials. No study has ever found that people on Zoloft or Prozac turn from normal to crazy any more than people on placebo.

This nonsense simply gives the government ammunition to deny second amendment rights to who has ever taken a pill.

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After all of the stuff that I post on here I finally made it to the front page!!!!!

Thanks Mike Nystrom!!!!!

Ha, nice.

After 5+ years as a member here, I only posted something one time that made the front page. It's rare. : )

You're missing something here...

All of the recent (past 15 years) mass murders were committed by people on these drugs. People who are not taking these drugs are not committing mass murder...just sayin'...

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
- President John F. Kennedy

You are missing something as well...

....All of the recent (past 15 years) mass murders were committed by people who use pillows to sleep on at night. People who don't use pillows at night are not committing mass murder....just sayin'

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

Debbie's picture

Have you ever read the package insert's warnings and contra-

indications for a pillow?

Debbie

Is there a pattern here?

What do mass shootings and suicide have to do with psychotropic psychiatric drugs?

"Some have been awake, Some are waking up, Some are sound asheep."
Anonymous

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

Abruptly stopping these drugs can make you go crazy

Talk to a crazy homeless person who lives under an overpass and ask them their story. It's because they went off the meds that causes them to be worse off than they originally were.

yep

i can say from my own experience this is true. if people on anti depressants do anything crazy- it's my guess they suddenly stopped their meds. that will make you WAY crazier than you ever were before you started taking them.

You're confusing correlation and causation

Blames the drugs = Blame the guns.

I thought individuals were responsible for their actions.

These drugs change the way people THINK

I am an amazingly lucky woman, I survived the suicidal thoughts. I did not have them AT ALL, I was just SAD because my mother was dying and my daughter was moving away to college. No real "depression" - just a sad time of life for me. My boss thought I should take the wonder drugs, so I did. They CHANGED THE WAY I THOUGHT. Yes, I am 100% responsible for putting the pill in my mouth, but Pharma is 100% responsible for bringing these to market KNOWING that HEALTHY PEOPLE were made suicidal by them. They did not put that warning on there voluntarily, they were FORCED to do so.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

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No, they are not equal. You will find answers to that at Dr.

Peter Breggin's site: http://peterbreggin.com/

Debbie

Here's how close to BLACK we've come...

As SOON as a public servant takes any private property there should be an instant PUBLIC record of it. That's what the law is. Private property cannot be taken without due process or just compensation.

The reason why we're where we are at is because too many people are treating servants like authorities. The servants get used to all this perceived power then when one of the REAL authorities decides to exercise a few sovereign powers the matrix has a massive convulsion and (this is a good to report - used to be a hell of a lot less) we've got a 50/50 shot of being damaged in the process.

What would be needed is to organize on one day where there's enough of us to say "What is the basis of your claimed delegated powers to do this to me, a private man (or woman)?" There needs to be so many of us that police have no choice but to become public SERVANTS again because all the people are standing up for themselves again.

The only thing you have to fear is... fear itself and if you can spread THIS information FAR and WIDE it would really go a long way towards solving the problem without ever leaving your seat :)
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Did you guys know that...

...investigators at 100% of hotel fires in the United States in the last 50 years have found one common item at the scene of all the fires?
They found Bibles.
Conclusion-Bibles cause hotel fires.

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

Here we go again with the drug blame game.

The found alcohol, sertraline, and clonazepam in his apartment.

Personally I think it is absolutely ridiculous to blame drugs for a violent crime, as people commit crimes, not drugs, but let's evaluate it from a drug standpoint...

Clonazepam is an anxiolytic. It is a drug you give to people to calm them down. They had nothing to do with this murder.

Sertraline is an anti-depressant. It's effective. If you have evil intentions, it can ease your depression and make you more ambitious to do things like violent crime if that is your agenda, but it does not cause violent thoughts. Pre-emptive mass murder is not something caused by an anti-depressant. Prisoners have their medications closely monitored, and there is no evidence of violent prisoners becoming more violent when on sertraline or the other SSRIs.

More crimes have been committed under the influence of alcohol than all other drugs combined. In fact, up to 1/3 of violent crimes involve alcohol. I'm not accusing alcohol as the cause, but if one were to pin drugs, this is the glaring front-runner.

But wait, I thought it was MK-ULTRA CIA BRAINWASHING SCOPOLAMINE ILLUMINATI? I guess now people are going back to Scientology-esque "all psychotropics are poison" arguments.

It's easier to blame the drugs than the doctors

You say prisoners have their medications highly monitored. I believe many prisoners do not get adequet mental health care, after all, it's not as if they are in a mental hospital surrounded by doctors and nurses. It could be prisoners get better health care than the general population, However, we have a crisis happening in America, where blaming the drugs is not a solution, but easirer than blaming the people who write the prescriptions.

It doesn't mean he murdered those people---

Anyone can be drugged, then set up. I'm not saying that happened. I'm just saying no one could identify James Holmes, NOBODY. Yet, more than one witness said there were more than Holmes involved, since they all witnessed a smoke bomb coming from the opposite door of the theatre from where Holmes was.

So....who cares about the drugs? Yes, it can cause people to wig out, but mass murder? Once in a blue moon, I will agree.

Many people

We have an mental health epidemic and while drugs get the blame, it goes beyond the drugs.. the mass murders are being committed all over the USA, and the military suicides, and psyhotropic drugs are a problem, but it goes beyond that.. prisons being used as hospitals for the mentally ill are also a problem, undertrained, understaffed, mismanagement, misappropriations of funds, too little to succeed govt. programs, overworked and underpaid mental health employees... People need help and seems to have to break laws to get help, (or they have adcocates with personal agenda and apron strings, or pending elections), even when they are getting help with psychotropic drugs.

Are you in the Pharma field

or something? Seem to be taking this personally.

These drugs change the way we process certain substances. Saying the drug caused it isn't what most people are saying. The point is we should have a transparent analysis of these drugs completed by someone other than the drug companies. It isnt just shooters, which have almost all taken these SSRIs, it is suicides as well.

You should be this angry every time someone suggests Americans be disarmed because of the these tragedies

I have taken 'Pins (Klonopin). Whatever they are "supposed" to do, I can attest that they contribute to violence and complete black outs.

Sorry if these pills are related to how you make your money but these pills are bad news.

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

No I'm not in the pharm field.

In fact it gets kind of irritating that people ask/accuse this every single time I defend SSRIs and the other psychotropic drugs.

I am angry every time the masses call out to disarm Americans after a tragedy.

I AM ALSO ANGRY WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO BAN AND BLAME DRUGS AFTER A TRAGEDY AS WELL.

Insanity preceded both guns and modern psychotropics by eons.

Thanks for the response...

Insanity. Do you believe 20% of Americans are insane?

Do you think it is really a legitimate need to treat insanity that is behind 100 plus million scripts for SSRIs?

For SSRIs to work can take up to three weeks. So when you mention you have experimented with all of these, do you really mean that you took a range of these, more than I have heard of, for the recommended periods?

Do you mind if I ask what made you put these serious chemicals in your body?

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

What? Man you really have set me up as a comical straw-man

How did you interpret "do you believe 20% of Americans are insane" from anything I said?

I implied that James Holmes was insane. I implied that the people committing mass murders are insane. These occurs in rates of 1 in tens of millions. There is nothing society can do to prevent this. It is not the fault of guns, or drugs, or video games, any other noun.

No, anti-depressants should be used to treat insanity, they should be used to treat people who are depressed. You can argue that anti-depressants are over-prescribed (and they might be) but this is far different than accusing them as causing mass murder.

Besides this, why are so many people so upset about the number of people on anti-depressants? There is nothing wrong with taking mind-altering drugs, whether for depression or any other reason. How many people medicate themselves with alcohol? MILLIONS. Or use coffee to get through the work day? MILLIONS.

I ingest drugs because I enjoy them. I enjoy exploring my own consciousness. I enjoy the euphoric effects they provide.

I have not taken SSRIs recreationally. No one does that. I took them when I hit a bout of crippling depression. Sertraline helped me get some sleep without having terrifying nightmares and helped me get back on track. I did not go on a killing spree.

Best Wishes !

You are reading way too much into some simple questions. I am not sure what a scarecrow has to do with any of this.

I was asking questions to try to understand. I have found it that seeking to understand the other person is the the key to then being able to be understood.

I never claimed that you said anything. I, and most don't, blame the drugs. There needs to be some research done by someone other than the drug companies. Why the thought of this makes you angry I just do not understand.

Again sorry you are taken this so personally, it really isn't about you. It was just a dialogue.

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

You're about an Ignorant Fuk

Open your eyes and ears

"You Cannot Stop An Idea Whose Time Has Come"

Cool man. Classy, intelligent response.

I study medicine and have taken these drugs and experienced them first-hand. (Plus a whole slew of other psychotropics you probably have not heard of.)I can demolish the "natural" health fear mongering scientifically and anecdotally.

But yeah, I guess I'll "open my eyes and ears" because I'm probably a sheep, right?

uh still the problem of witnesses reporting more than

one shooter, before we sentence this kid to death without a trial.

SSRIs and other money makers.

Some folks here who like to argue may want to use their not inconsiderable abilities to consider how valid taking drugs, to cure people's depressions, only a couple of decades old phenomenon, is. When these drugs destroy satisfactions in life, lead to suicides, disrupt logical processes, and otherwise tear at the foundations of civility, it is worth a rethink, before assuming doctoral drug dispensations are logical. Are Doctors infallible, and SSRIs miraculous? It is enough for me, reading comments, to believe love and kindness do more good for depressed people than these drugs and the 'doctors' who recommend them ever will. Of course to so state, takes faith in belief, and that is to logic, anathema.

Will they let him be in drugs when the execute him?

Doesn't matter - he can make all the excuses he wants before he meets his maker.

National discussion should be on drug companies not guns

The fake parents and relatives should be suing the drug companies. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. The drug was attached and altered the body. The gun was not attached or altering the body. The focus here should be on drug companies and not James Holmes.

TheSin

SSRIs kill more soldiers than the enemy

Pharma aids and abets Al Qaeda. Heck, they make Al Qaeda look like chumps when it comes to killing US soldiers.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...