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If Pearl Harbor Never Happened, What Would America Be Like Today?

Declaration of War to Japan -
Day of Infamy speech by Franklin D. Roosevelt
December 8th 1941

"Yesterday, December 7, 1941 - a date which will live in infamy - the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VqQAf74fsE

As most people here already know by now, FDR and US intelligence knew what was coming days prior to Pearl Harbor. They knew of General Yamamoto's plans.

"...everything that the Japanese were planning to do was known to the United States..." ARMY BOARD, 1944

I think most of here would agree. They let the bombing of Pearl Harbor happen on purpose in order to justify the United States getting involved in another World War.

So my question is, would we all be here today if they didn't let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose as they did?

Would we, "all be speaking German?"

Another thing I think most of us here would agree upon is the fact that Germany more than likely would have won the war if America didn't intervene.

Without the United States help, the Allies would've lost to the Axis Powers. The bankers backed both sides and could care less who won, or perhaps that isn't so...they just wanted to control the outcome.

That being said, what would the world be like today if Hitler did in fact win WW2?

Would you have ever been born? No Baby Boom in America = no you, or at least a very serious reduction in the likelihood of you ever being born. If the United States didn't help win WW2, many of our parents would never have been born.

Would your autistic child be allowed to live in the 3rd and 4th Reich? Would people of, "inferior racial hygiene," exist? Would the eugenics of Nazi Germany wipe you and your family off the map to the point of non existence? Would your grandparents be allowed to live into their 90's?

Would you be allowed to own a gun or rifle in "America," today?

Hitler took away the guns...Stalin took away the guns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r7Xs6...

Would we be allowed to listen to Alex Jones?

Would the United States Constitution, and our Bill of Rights even be talked about today if Hitler won WW2, or would that great, "book," be burned too?

Would France still exist? Would England still have a Queen? Would mentally handicapped people be allowed to live? Would gay people be allowed to be gay?

Would Jews exist? Would Muslims exist? Would Asians exist today if Hitler had his way and won World War 2? Would religion be legal?

Would the NFL exist? The NBA? Major League Baseball? The NHL?

McDonald's, Burger King and KFC? Hollywood movies?

Movies with black men in leading roles?

If they didn't let it happen on purpose back in 1947...

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World War II was the last

World War II was the last good war.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Russia would have defeated

Russia would have defeated Germany...might have taken them a few years longer. Russia would now be the World's policeman and the Ruble would be the world's reserve currency. Meanwhile in the US without the massive redirection of wealth and industry America would have continued with a constitutional government(more so than now anyway) and would have become a massive technology and industrial giant. All the capital misallocated toward the MIC would still be in the private sector. Technologies we cant even imagine would have been developed and we would make the best products in the world. Our nuclear technology might have been delayed a year or two but would have been perfected sooner. The US would have a yearly trade surplus, with Russia and China as our main customers. The US dollar would retain and possibly even gain in strength. We never would have seen the need to go off the gold standard internationally. Poverty would be greatly reduced. We wouldnt be sending hundreds of billions to other countries in foreign aid. The list goes on, war is ALWAYS destructive and NEVER constructive....World War II and the resulting policeman of the world status have cost us most of what this country was under the vision off the founding fathers...if you cant see that, I dont even know what to say. It would be Russia on the verge of collapse due to over expansion...not us.

Nazi America: A Secret History

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8j8o4kxx30

WARNING: this video is quite graphic. Viewer's discretion is advised.

Who exactly do you think taught these people their racist, neo nazi ideology? Their American parents and grandparents.

A copy of Henry Ford's, "The International Jew," was placed in every glove compartment of a new Model T.

Large segments of the American population, and even members of the US Congress were supportive of the Nazis.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

"Russia would have defeated

"Russia would have defeated Germany...might have taken them a few years longer. Russia would now be the World's policeman and the Ruble would be the world's reserve currency."

I respectfully disagree on both points. Russia would not have defeated Germany, for Russia did not have people like Henry Ford, and Prescott Bush backing them. Do you know that the Nazi Party held a rally at Madison Square Garden?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrmY3QW8pqs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu4pGo0F4QI

Stalin's communist ideology was so destructive to his own society, there is no way in the world the ruble would be the world's reserve currency....based on what? The full faith and credit of Joseph Stalin and death itself?

Communism doesn't work...it's an economic tool designed to torpedo the economy of any nation. Just look at Cuba...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apEffjaipOY

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

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The Soviets could have defeated Germany alone. Sheer numbers were on the side of the Soviets and they had incredible production might and a huge population.

It is little known that it was the Soviets who drove the Japanese to surrender. They crushed the Japanese troops in Manchuria and then began an attack from the north, capturing islands from Japan that they still hold today.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were as much a message to the Soviets as they were to the Japanese. Had we not dropped nuclear bombs and chose to invade instead the Soviets may have gotten to Tokyo first.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

Germany would have never been

Germany would have never been able to successfully invade the US. On the other hand, had he been able to prevail at least in Europe, nuclear power might not exist. Reason being that the first reactor was completely unshielded and had they turned it, anyone standing nearby would have been irradiated. This would likely mean that the major scientists involved in nuclear power would all have died by observing the new 'milestone'.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

lol, no

"Another thing I think most of us here would agree upon is the fact that Germany more than likely would have won the war if America didn't intervene."

The Russians would have beet Germany without our help.

Correct

Europe would be speaking Russian and the Soviet Union would still exist.
The war would have ended in 46' instead of 45'.

The Soviet Union would be dominant. They would have been the only ones with access to German technology:

Jet engine technology
V2 missle systems
Advanced weapons design
Nuclear technology
List goes on...

Our reason for fighting in Europe was not Germany, it was to counter the Soviets.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

I completely agree...we were

I completely agree...we were in alliance with Stalin of all people, and shortly after the war ended, he was our Cold War enemy.

That picture of FDR, Stalin, and Churchill sitting together always seemed quite odd.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://fc.nbsc.org/~swur...

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Alternate Outcome

If Germany had conquered the Soviets we would have worked with the Germans.

We worked with them regardless. After the war we recruited former Abwher agents to counter the KGB and we gave thousands of Nazi's free passage to the USA. Ex: Werner VonBraun built the Apollo Program and our ICBM program.

Stalin - the greatest mass murderer of all time.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

What if Wall Street had not financed Hitler & Bolsheviks???

What if the Fed had not been involved?

WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER
By Antony C. Sutton
http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/
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WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION
By Antony C. Sutton
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/
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What if the Fed had not funded Japan?

Congressman McFadden's Speech Before the Attempts on His Life, Part 1
http://www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy28.htm

"These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this Country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this Country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in World War. They financed Trotsky's passage from New York to Russia so that he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian Revolution, and placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky's disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children. "Mr. Chairman, there should be
no partisanship in matters concerning banking and currency affairs in this Country, and I do not speak with any"....
"Why should we send our representatives to the disarmament conference at Geneva- while the Fed is making our Government pay Japanese debts to German Munitions makers?..."
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What if, What if, What if...we ask some different questions???

What would it be like?

Would we be Trillions of dollars in debt right now?

What would the US be like if nearly 1/2M Patriots had not lost their lives and had raised another generation and that generation had raised another generation and that generation had raised another generation?

How many Liberty Lovers would be alive today and what impact would they have had on the criminal element in our government?

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Not just Wall Street, the

Not just Wall Street, the Rothschild's (Bank of England) funded them too.

After WWI, the German economy totally collapsed. Their money was only good for helping to start fires, just to keep warm. But somehow, some way they were able to rebuild in less than 2 decades, and produced one of the largest, most sophisticated military machines the world has ever seen.

That's not possible without playing, "Let's make a deal," with the banking boys who like to control both sides.

The international bankers have funded both sides of every single major war since 1776....

Why do they do this? So many reasons I'm sure, but one thing really stuck out to me this past weekend after watching, "The Bloody History of Communism," on youtube.

WE KNOW they fund both sides. WE KNOW they let things happen on purpose...but why do the puppet masters do what they do?

From a strategic, military point of view I must say that the socialist/communist ideology Western bankers have helped implement in Russia, China, South America, etc. was THE most powerful weapon they could ever fund and unleash on their enemies.

Want to destroy your enemy? Give them a little Red Book. Communism spreads, and it kills. In other words, I think Western bankers funded the Nazi socialists, and the Russian communists because it was like putting a stick of dynamite in their trousers.

Why did they fund Lenin (communist) and Hitler (socialist)?

Because the ideology of Marxism is more powerful and destructive than any nuclear weapon. Marx and Engels were funded by the West...as tools of implementing an ideology of destruction.

It's a weapon...and they use it to keep their enemies weak.

Obama is a big warning sign, with a big O, and a rising sun.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.