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Pro-Choice Advocacy Unmasked


The pro-choice lobby is not about defending a woman's liberty, or even about over population. It's about something much uglier and you'll recognize it in this woman's honesty. It's about genocide born from Socialism.

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You want to pay for the Federal Reserve Corporation

You want to pay for the Federal Reserve Corporation constantly devaluing the money that's running up the price for everything? You want to support the Federal Government throwing money at the health care industry and the education industry that's running up the price for those through the roof?

Ayn Rand had already rationally explained

why individual liberty of the born (mother) superseeds the liberty of unborn (embrio, fetus.) Anti-abortion folks do not think about happiness of actual mother and her future children, nor their individual rights. They propogate the church dogma as pure egotistic means to enter the heaven and live for ever. Multiplying the poor and crippled does not bring freedom, happiness, or prosperity on THIS EARTH.

Rothbardian nonsense presented as "logic" by some Libertarians (Dr. Block and others) was debunked long ago (Sorry Ron Paul.)

Since any rational thought needs a clear-cut context, most countries today agee that abortions are okay until fetus is viable. After that, only OBJECTIVE threat of a grave illness or death (either to mother or fetus, established by several doctors) let the mother decide if she wants an abortion.

More BS

What in the hell does viable mean, one day, two days, because i know a newborn can't live on their own or viable .. Murder should be illegal

If viability determines someones right to live

If viability determines someones right to live, then they might as well outlaw life support systems.

If you strive for perfection

and simple formulas detached from complexity of reality, you will get a perfect sytem or a perfect society - Utopia. Free society is not a perfect or "happy" society, it is a society where government does not innitiate force within a rational context.

In theory, scientists can grow children outside of a woman womb thus bypassing magic of god. In practice, the cut-off date for fetus viability is a judicial law (established by experience) set to about 5 months or beginning of the last trimester of pregnancy.

This comment posted earlier

This comment posted earlier in relation to Life at Conception Act that Rand Paul sponsored.

This statement from Rand is simply not true.
“The Life at Conception Act legislatively declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known — that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore is entitled to legal protection,”

Here is why; Most Americans in my experience, especially those that support liberty,say just the opposite about "legal protection".
"Most Americans" actually say something more like this:
Believe what you want. Act on your beliefs in your own life but the above statement is dead wrong on the politics of abortion and the federal government. No matter what you might believe you can't force a woman the carry a fetus without using force you have no right to use. That decision is between her and her god and maybe her family if she chooses to include them only.

I will again remind those that believe they can impose their will on this abortion issue through government and claim to favor liberty, that their control must not reach into another person's body regardless of their noble intentions or their beliefs on life. That is a slope I care not to slide down and I believe most Americans(especially those in the Liberty movement)agree. I also believe Rand's politic playing is going to lose him more than he could hope to gain in the end by becoming just like those who he would claim to oppose.

“I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.”
- Thomas Jefferson

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

Complete BS

So you can't force the Mom to take care of the child after it is born, so the child has no legal protection according to you, it is between her and her god. That doesn't mean it isn't a freakin crime to Kill someone

Government is not going to solve this.

If this were a private, family issue, it could not be used as a tool for socialism and genocide. The motivation of those who engage in social engineering is not the motivation of the average human. Most of us are motivated by empathy with either the woman or the baby, and since it is a tragedy on all sides, we are NEVER going to come up with legislation that is fair to both woman and child.
Agree to disagree, if we can do it on this issue, we can break the divide and conquer game. Again, I offer common ground:
Can you meet me there?

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

It's been said time an time

It's been said time an time again...I see all over message boards and hear it every day. This is no secret. These people are seriously misguided. It's sick.

Another related article....

The Perverse Logic of the Left
It wants to protect children from infanticide by exposing them to more abortions.


The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche


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It's pretty messed up how these socialist resort to violence instead of dialogue.

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Where did my jaw go?

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