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Is home-birthing as "chique" as homeschooling?

There's now and for some time been such a developed, multi-faceted, and refined movement for homeschooling, complete with state law support. Most people dream of having the means for staying at home to school their kids.

However, why isn't home-birthing as hot of a concept? If a woman was likely to have a vaginal birth and a midwife and other medical friends were available, having a child outside of a hospital has the advantages of absolutely no unwanted inoculations, no blood taken at birth for state purposes, no quasi-legal interactions between hospital staff and law enforcement (I'm talking about informal welfare checks and record keeping that the hospital does on the parents). None of that.

Is it simply too unsafe and therefore no one wants to do it? I can understand pregnancies where the parents already know beforehand that it's going to be a potentially complicated birth. But what about the other cases?



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After 8 hospital births, my last baby was a water birth at home!

I always had my babies in the hospital because I liked my food brought on a platter and I liked the three days of people taking care of me - or so I thought!

For the last few deliveries I started to feel increasingly uncomfortable with my decision on hospital births because of the vaccine issue and because I was not happy about being treated like a second-class pregnant woman because of all of my VBACs (my last was my 7th VBAC)- being called "old" or "high risk" by THEIR standards!

I found a midwife when I discovered I was pregnant with my last child. It was a great decision! It was the BEST birth that I had. No one told me what to do. No one hooked me up to stuff. No one tried to vaccinate my baby when I wasn't looking. I was in charge. It was wonderful and the most natural birth that I had. I'm glad I decided to take the plunge and do something different!

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Only on the DP - talking about home-births...

I love this site. No where on the web will you find such engaging conversation on so many varied topics. Truth transcends all boundaries. Ok, on the topic. 8 kids, 1 very controlled hospital birth (the first, that WE controlled), and 7 home-births.

We've had the most wonderful midwife for the past 6 - Robin Lavis, of Blessings of the Womb midwifery, in Elk Rapids, Michigan. I highly recommend this lady - she's the best!

Getting ready for the first, I read in the Fireman's Emergency Book on Childbirth that the average birth could be attended by an 8 years old in the back of a cab with a 90% positive outcome. We've not had one problem - in fact I'd deliver my own child, if I had to, before going to a hospital.

Speaking about birth, Dr. Paul's delivered a few babies in his time. And after having 6 of my own, I had a few minutes of time with him in 2007, and asked him this question. "Dr. Paul, you're a non-interventionist when it comes to foreign policy. So I've just got to ask you this question - as an OB, what was your c-section rate?"

Since many c-sections today are the by-product of non-essential interventions, I thought that was a fair question. Guess what he said.

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Dr. Paul probably said less

Dr. Paul probably said less than 10 percent.

There is actually more risk in a hospital

birth than a home birth with a knowledgeable midwife. Hospitals want to get it done quick. They want to deliver the baby according to the doctors time line instead of the natural timeline of the pregnancy. "Doctor says the baby is due so he/she is going to induce." What a crock. No wonder there are so many sickly children.

Not to mention that giving birth is a natural occurrence and in a vast majority of births the baby will be born with or without help and be in fine shape. Yet people have been brainwashed into believing that if they don't pay a hospital thousands of dollars then there baby will be in danger.

Some states outlaw home births such as Louisiana where it is illegal to home birth with a midwife yet almost every pregnancy you hear about in that state ends in caesarian or at the very least induced. The medical establishment is a con and the number one avenue of our enslavement in this country.

“We had all our babies at home…just to make you uncomfortable."


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My wife and I enjoyed that! Thanks!

Why not?

I think the most likely answer is fear and pain relief.

Additionally, it's not "normal" to do that anymore. Pregnancy is treated more like a disease than a natural (beautiful) part of human life.

IF, when I had my first, I had known what I know now, and had been married to my current husband, I like to think I would have given it a shot. Instead, I ended up having an emergency C/S due to having my water broken (by my OB after inducing labor) before my daughters head was low enough allowing her hand to slide down into the birth canal. It was years later before I realized that would have most likely been avoided had my doctor not been in such a hurry. After that my (new) OB convinced me that I had to deliver all of my children via c/s since the original scar increases the chances of uterine rupture. At that piont in my life I never questioned my doctors with one exception... vaccinations.

Despite 4 hospital deliveries I never allowed innoculations. With my 3rd (who was 6 weeks early) that caused the asshole NICU doctor to call DHR on my so I was visited by a social worker. The same doctor insisted I formula feed because there was this majical formula designed specifically for premature babies. Had that been my first I would have done it but since it was my third I refused and camped out in the NICU to make sure they didn't give it to her anyway. He insisted she wasn't mature enough to breastfeed so I insisted I had plenty of experience so I would teach her. It was extremely difficult but I am extremely stubborn so I did exactly that however I did not sleep more that 2-3 hours total over the course of 5 days.

Hopefully home-birthing will become more common over the next few decades. I would bet that it increases significantly as the growing number of children who are being homeschooled reach child bearing age.

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Very well said.

Very well said.

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I found this to be informative

Documentary about home births - The Business of Being Born.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdOUUHN8ipw

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Do what you feel is best for you and baby, but...

before hospital births became the "norm", giving birth was an activity fraught with danger. Many, many women and babies did not survive the experience.

B.S.

You watch to much TV and/or are brainwashed by the medical establishment.

And you should learn

some history!
As for big phama, I treat it with the contempt it deserves.
If it wasn't for the brilliant work of a highly skilled team of doctors I would have lost my 1st child. But that does not mean that I advocate hospital births for everyone.
http://www.faqs.org/childhood/In-Ke/Infant-Mortality.html

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Or "before fractional reserve banking became the 'norm', banking was an activity fraught with danger." See the fallacy?

If you look at statistics comparing birth from the same time period, home/birth center births have the same or better safety rates compared to hospitals.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/womens-he...

http://www.nct.org.uk/birth/home-birth-safe

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Homeschooling

permeates a family's day-to-day lifestyle for decades.

Homebirth is an event or a series of events in a family, but makes up very little of a family's lifestyle overall.

The players with prolonged involvement in homeschooling are the parents and children. The players with prolonged involvement in homebirthing are the midwives, if the family even used a midwife.

Homebirthers don't even always know who each other are because the chances of that coming up in conversation, especially if your children are older are low. The elements just weren't there to form a vibrant community around the issue pre-internet.

That's changing since the internet is available. The internet allows people seeking others who are involved in a minority activity to find each other easily. Eventually, it might not be a minority activity anymore, but the internet is what's allowing it to grow. I still don't see it ever having the kind of political power or community involvement homeschooling does because it's an event, not a lifestyle.

At least it was for me. I know some women talk about their births for years, but I consider myself done.

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Had my first child in the hospital. Experience was so awful

I had my second one at home, my husband delivered it. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better to have the child at home. No midwife, nobody around but me, him and my mother in law. However, I have a family history of uncomplicated deliveries and had a normal, healthy pregnancy.
In general, truth is it is harder to stop a woman from having a baby than it is to help her have one.

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Agree!

My wife and I had our first 3 in the hospital, and they were horrible experiences. Our last 5 have been born at home. Our first homebirth we had help from a medically trained midwife. The 2nd one we had help from a lay midwife in the middle of the Arizona high country. The 3rd was unassisted in a cabin without electricity or running water in Kentucky. The 4th was delivered by my wife, as I didn't get home in time. Our last one was a 10lb 11oz. girl that we delivered 3 months ago.

There is a place for hospital births, but the vast majority of births can be done safely at home. Our Mexican lay midwife also taught us how to use herbs to assist in the birth and control bleeding, which has been a great help to us. There is really no comparison between hospital births and homebirths. One is cold, clinical, and controlling. The other is warm, loving, peaceful, and spiritual. I'm glad that I have a wife that opened up my eyes to this alternative, and who has inspired so many other women to educate and empower themselves to take control of their births.

love this!!

it is harder to stop a woman from having a baby than it is to help her have one.

:-)