Ron Paul would be considered an evangelical.
"I will not submit to authority of man. I'm alive, I'm awake, this is more than I can take." -Jordan Page
Only difference is that Ron Paul doesn't slam and judge other people's religions like you all do. He is a real libertarian unlike you guys.
"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
because you were too butthurt about the mormon thread ?
What happened, decided to further fuel the utterly pointless religious debate? I guess, you just couldn't let go huh...lol
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an
Common' stop fighting about mental concepts and classifications. If you want to know a real christian look at this post from another DPauler. I do not even know the 'religion' of this guy - maybe he is atheist - but his words show that he is a real christian.
Even US Soldiers are Waking up to the New World Order
Submitted by clynbrit on Mon, 04/08/2013 - 07:39
in Daily Paul Liberty Forum
If you want to see another real christian look at Dr. Paul.
All of the different sub categories of Christianity are just labels that attempt to specify certain beliefs or issues that those groups hold dear. That said, being a Christian has nothing to do with which group or denomination you subscribe to. These terms have led people to believe that there are different definitions of Christianity. The powers that be love to divide and conquer. The more they try to categorize and classify Christianity, the less obvious the truth becomes. The only thing that defines Christianity is the belief and faith in Jesus Christ and his teachings. Period. There are plenty of evangelicals, catholics, baptists, orthodox, and mormons that claim Christianity, but miss the point completely. There are also plenty of people who don't subscribe to any of these labels, but have a real relationship with Christ.
To the original poster, I don't believe that any evangelical or christian hates you. Even though you present yourself as an enemy of their faith elsewhere on this site, The Bible teaches to love ones enemies.
do Ron Paul supporters classify people into groups that over generalize and label them?
"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul
i downvoted you for causing trouble with off topic religious post.
you're looking for attention and playing into the elites divide and conquer plan. i know the religious folks do it but you should not sink to their level.
if you weren't starved for attention you would just google it instead of causing trouble here.
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So tired of these BS posts......
religious post belong somewhere else. if it's Easter or something current or relevant then i get it, but off topic religious post (pro or con) only serve to divide.
"They hate everyone who is not like them."
This is not true. Please stop spreading misinformation. Collectivism is not a good thing. Grouping all evangelicals together and claiming they all hate everyone who is not like them is almost parallel to grouping all members of a race together and claiming they all listen to the same type of music, dress the same, have the same beliefs, or eat the same foods.
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be a cointelpro agent, or an Obama organizing for America paid internet disinfo operative? Judging his posted content would leave me to believe he is here on a twofold mission, to cause divisiveness for one and the more apparent is to identify people by mining for information from daily Paul members. The former could be too match real life individuals to daily Paul entities or to assist the PTB in identyfying general characteristics of people involved in the liberty movement and we could further speculate on the purpose of such a task.
Are Christians Christians?
Jesus did not come to judge, he came to teach and he taught us to follow the ten commandments. Not really difficult.
...it is impossible to keep them all 100%, that's why we needed Him to do what He did. It is also only easier to keep them as much as possible only with His help. Perhaps that is what you really meant in the 1st place.=)
You were leaving because we are "not libertarian" and are "intolerant hypocrites ."
All because you got pissed off about 10 month old post...
Instead you decided to stick around and contribute to the divisiveness?
There are good AND bad people in EVERY religion, political party, neighborhood, etc.
That's life. It's an unintended consequence of liberty. You don't have to agree with everyone else NOR do they have to agree with you.
Regardless, each person (ESPECIALLY LIBERTARIANS) needs to learn to accept this and tolerate each other DESPITE their differences. The name calling and bickering between us, particularly that which is due to religion, is childish and ridiculous.
Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie
Some of the most "Christian" behavior often comes from non-believers.
Free includes debt-free!
...the cares of this life. Ugh, I think many get caught up in the craziness of these times much too often and we all have our battles with different weaknesses. The testing is only getting started in this country.
...they are blood-washed saints, they were justified when they came directly to Jesus Christ in repentance and faith.
Christians bare Christian fruit during the sanctification process, as they grow in knowledge and obedience to Him.
Repentance is one of those fruits, so is discernment of evil, as well as putting off childish things.
Christians fellowship with Christ through the study and personal application of the scriptures, they also enjoy fellowship with fellow believers; where their spirit bears witness with His Spirit.
Few enter the narrow gate alone, forsaking their worldly baggage and selfish lusts for temporary pleasures and possessions; and even few stay on the narrow path where the lusts of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life are rejected and diffused by the Word of God springing up from within the transformed believer who loves the Lord with all his heart, soul, mind, and strength.
Satan is the master counterfeiter, and he has successfully blinded and distracted a great many who heard the Gospel message; the parable of the seed and the sower explains that the seed falls on 4 types of soil, but only ONE takes.
The soil must be broken up, turned up, and prepared to receive the good seed; that means offenses WILL come when truth is preached! Christ came not to bring peace, but a sword; and a man MUST be born again, of the Spirit of God, if he is to be deemed a TRUE child of God....a Christian!
Christians are instructed...addressed as "beloved" below...to indeed be suspect, testing, cautious of others professing Christians...it's not for unbelievers to judge, those "outside the camp" must FIRST render a response to the Gospel of Jesus Christ...Did Jesus Christ come to Earth from Heaven, born of a virgin, and live a perfect sinless life? Did he fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament with a 1000% batting average? Did He die, bearing the wrath of God upon Himself alone for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD, and did He rise from the dead victorious over death to PROVE His deity?
If you believe this is TRUTH, if you understand that all mankind has violated God's laws and are deserved of eternal separation from our Holy Creator as just punishment; then you need your sins forgiven, and your sin debt paid by a SUBSTITUTE who died in your place! Turn from your sins in repentance and faith to Christ TODAY, and ask that His shed blood be applied to your account for the remission of your sins...then...begin studying the Scriptures so that you can joyfully fellowship with Him and receive His divine guidance and protection as you begin a journey to "know all things", rather than wander and be bounced about by every wind of doctrine that spreads doubt and confusion in order to keep you from being used mightily of Him to advance the Kingdom by increasing its numbers.
But again, back to the overarching point: "who are the Christians":...only the God who saves them knows, and only TRUE believers can discern...1 John 4:1-3 addresses this quite handily...it reads, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.(2) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:(3) and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
That's my sermon for today...
Satan can quote scripture in order to deceive. Think about it.
The flip side of that coin is that we also have to be careful not to be overzealous in suspecting every difference of opinion on theology as 'Satan at work'. Some matters are secondary to the core Gospel mentioned above, such as the various schools of thought on the timing and order of events in the last days, the meaning of the reconciliation of all things in the context of eternity, the exact nature of the bread and the wine in the Lord's Supper (just symbols or something more), etc. These matters will all be cleared up eventually, when the Truth is more clearly known; but there are many things like this which people disagree strongly over but should not be viewed as an excuse for going overboard with divisive witch hunts and labelling everyone who interprets Scripture differently on anything as 'heretical.' (I'm not commenting on anyone here in these forums when I say this...just talking in generalities. :) )
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Westboro Baptist Church probably isn't actually Christian, but all the evangelicals I know are very good people who are very involved in their communities.
Don't forget, Jesus also said that He was the only way to the Father. Loving everyone does not mean agreeing with everyone's actions.
Would Jesus accept gay people? What about Muslims, buddists, or Mormons? Do they get in heaven or are they all going to hell?
...that there will be people of every conceivable label who find themselves in outer darkness, having to face up to the fact that they were not really pursuing a relationship with Light and Love in their lives, but were denying it even existed, or acting as if they could be self-sufficient apart from it, or distorting it for their own ulterior motives.
Some Christians will disagree with me, but the good news from my perspective (and the Apostle Paul's in Col 1) is that ALL created things, whether in heaven or on earth, will be reconciled to God through the peace of Christ, established by His blood on the cross. This means that God's Love will not give up on anyone or anything, even in the outer darkness, and that all, when truly overturning their unpardonable sin of unrepentance, will find their eternal sentences commuted by Him who holds the keys to hell -- and hell will empty out until every last prodigal will find their way back to their heavenly Father, who will yet greet their redeemed, reconciled selves with open arms. And all shall be well.
BUT...I would implore everyone to seek Him in this life while He may yet be found, and avoid the misery of the second death in the outer darkness altogether.
I don't think people can help being homosexual; however, they can choose whether or not to engage in perverse acts. Jesus accepts all those who repent and turn to Him, according to the Bible.
As far as other religions, no. They made a conscious decision not to follow Jesus. I won't dance around it. If, however, they accept Jesus and renounce their religion, then they, too, are accepted.
I also have to add, it's a very personal issue; sometimes, someone can claim they've converted while not really meaning it, and vice versa.
In regards to babies and the "noble savage" who's never heard of Jesus, at that point the decision is up to God, Him being the Judge of the universe and all.
So you are saying an innocent newborn dies, never hearing about Jesus, he wouldn't automatically go to heaven? There is still a chance that baby will go to hell?
Unlike some people, I am in fact capable of acknowledging where I'm ignorant. I've heard some pretty convincing arguments that, as another person posted, there is an "age of accountability," but I can't say for sure, not being a theologian.
...is considered to be 12 according to the Bible.
You'll just have to trust that a holy God will make the right decision.
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