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No TV homes on the rise - Broadcasters worried

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Some people have had it with TV. They've had enough of the 100-plus channel universe. They don't like timing their lives around network show schedules. They're tired of $100-plus monthly bills.

A growing number of them have stopped paying for cable and satellite TV service, and don't even use an antenna to get free signals over the air. These people are watching shows and movies on the Internet, sometimes via cellphone connections.

Last month, the Nielsen Co. started labeling people in this group "Zero TV" households, because they fall outside the traditional definition of a TV home. There are 5 million of these residences in the U.S., up from 2 million in 2007.


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I'm one of them!

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@LastStraw. You speak fear porn.

There is nothing more going on than a regular old market shift. From the yahoo article:

"Getting broadcast programing on all the gizmos and gadgets — like tablets, the backseats of cars, and laptops — is hugely important," says Dennis Wharton, a spokesman for the National Association of Broadcasters.

Broadcasters are behind the market shift. Too bad for them. But do you really think the revolving door of the fascist state will block them forever. Fat chance.

Am I missing something

Am I missing something here?

What does it matter whether you watch your favorite shows through the T.V. or through a computer?

Years ago we bought some little gizmo that hooked a laptop to our T.V. so we could just use the T.V. as a screen for family viewing. Are we watching T.V. because the thing we turned into a screen is a called a T.V? Likewise, my husband and I are watching The Vikings, a History Channel show, on our laptop. Does that mean we're not watching T.V.? So someone who subscribes to the History Channel and watches The Vikings is watching T.V. But we aren't?

This is a silly distinction. It's no more virtuous to watch crappy content online than it is to watch crap through a cable hook up. All the mainstream content is available online, and much of it is great -- The Vikings, Saving Grace, Deadwood, Stossel, the complete old Julia Childs cooking shows, Project Runway. These are all great, for me.

In fact, I find myself watching far more content than before online videos (mainstream, slipstream, and backwater) became so prevalent. I've only had cable once in my life -- right after my first baby when it felt like all I was doing was nursing and trying to nap. Not that I didn't watching cable when I was in a hotel, but the notion of having to be home and available to watch a show at some specific time always seemed off and doesn't jibe with...like having a life.

But now...now that I can watch what I want, when I want, for as long as I want, pause to make popcorn or pee, and skip the boring parts. Well, I watch a lot more. Much of is T.V. -- in the sense that it is produced by folks who put it out on broadcast and/or cable channels.

I fail to see why folks are patting themselves on the back for ditching the "T.V." The mechanism that brings content into our homes and minds isn't the sinister component. It's the content that matters. No one is going to, presto, be a better person, desiring better content, because they swapped out the mechanism. Whether you watch Ventura's Conspiracy Theory through cable or online, you're still getting the same crap.

No one I know personally still gets cable. Seems to me that this AP article is news only for the cable and satellite companies still sending me all that junk mail.

Gave mine up about a year

Gave mine up about a year ago. I watch youtube through my wii - but not very much.

DSL connection btw.

DSL connection btw.

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I'm glad to see this, it is a healthy trend. We don't have

cable or TV, and I don't watch any shows, but if I did, I would definitely do it online and save the $ and skip the commercials. I'd rather watch youtubes, they're interesting and you can learn a lot of useful stuff! I've always preferred reading to TV anyway.


More than 3 years now since I disconnected from Cable

My bill was $140/mo, and I was tired of it. Now I have so much more free time, and what I want to see gets to Netflix and Apple TV eventually. I am also Amazon Prime. Don't miss TV at all.

No TV since 1990

Kill your television, you'll be too busy living life to miss it. :O)

πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

Bottom line, TV can't compete with the world

ENTERTAINMENT: People in the hundreds of millions need only post one entertaining thing in their lifetime, online to far outnumber all the writers in Hollywood working 24/7.

NEWS: Why wait until 6 O'clock to view something shocking that an average person caught on their videophone, when you've already seen it online? The same goes for the weather report or sports highlights etc. And forget about cable "news" with all their commentary. Take away the financial/political talk and it's merely Jersey Shore for the sophisticates.

EDUCATION: Internet = world's largest knowledge base. Nothing more to say there.

I for one will not shed a tear when the networks die. For me, it can't happen fast enough.

If men are good, you don't need government; if men are evil or ambivalent, you don't dare have one.

A warning for zero tv households

I work for a major Internet Service Provider in the US, and have a warning for those who have cut their cable cord and are now only viewing content over the internet.

The cable companies are able to offer internet at the rates they do because they expect a certain amount of traffic per user on the network. As more people shift to streaming all of their content over the internet rather than watching cable, this has an extremely large impact on the network.

Even just five years ago, most users were only browsing the web and sending email, traffic which can be measured in megabits. When you shift to streaming movies and tv via netflix and hulu, your traffic has gone up 1000 fold and the carrier has to account for this in their back end infrastructure.

Cable companies obviously want to make a profit, and this is negatively impacting their business. So, one of two things is going to happen:

1. The cost of your internet service is going to skyrocket.

2. Cable companies will shift away from static monthly charges and shift to a Utility model. Your usage will be tracked and you will be billed based on how many gigabits of data you use each month similar to how mobile carriers currently operate. (more likely possibility and has already happened in Canada).

So, enjoy the cheap bandwidth while you can. Within five years you will probably be paying as much for your streaming as you did for you cable package.

peace + liberty = prosperity

Listen to this wise man, who

Listen to this wise man, who is warning us about caps and "per gigabyte" pricing.

I am sure there are ways to beat it, such as, perhaps P2P decentralized internet, however we have to be prepared now.

Any ideas how to reduce impact of "per GByte" pricing?

Engage in Secure Exchange

Only in monopolized cities

This is only true in places where a single provider has a monopoly on broadband Internet service. Because otherwise competition and Moore's law would keep prices from rising. Unfortunately, there are far too many places where local governments have granted unearned monopolies to one cable company or one phone company, creating a de facto duopoly.

The solution to this is to get your local government to stop granting monopolies to cable companies and phone companies, and allow the free market to do its thing.

This is also the solution to "Net Neutrality", by the way. You don't need government-legislated net neutrality if you have competition. The mid-to-late 1990's showed this, as proprietary "Online Services" like AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy, GEnie, MSN, eWorld, etc. all died out because people just wanted plain-jane Internet service for the lowest price, and were able to dial their phone line to any provider they wanted.

I don't have internet with a cable company

mine is through the phone company. high speed too, for less than the cable guys want. and I don't need a landline to go with it.


I pay $56.94 for internet only from Time Warner, that's the most I have ever paid for internet service. (20/1Mbps)

No television here for 15 months, and

it's kind of funny, but on almost the 1yr anniversary of cancelling cable, Nielson sent an application packet to be a "TV Home" (with the $2 in it) and also DirectTV on that same day sent me a special for DTV for $50/month.

Needless to say I enjoyed spending the free $2 and that was the end of that.

No TV now for about 3 years...

I am loving it. If I do watch a movie, I go to Netflix. I love to have contact with people on the internet much more than watching some stupid show that is forcing values that I do not agree with.

the cable tv model is broken

because the executives are greedy and out of touch. Showtime and HBO are the only channels I watch -besides the business ones which I watch online. So why pay for a thousand channels that I don't watch just to get HBO -stooopid.. The bean pushers need to wake up to this thing called mobile..

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007

No cable or antenna for the past two years

Just hook the laptop to the TV for some Netflix or Youtube on occasion. Netflix is starting to get boring now too.

I'd rather read.

I agree.

I have really started to appreciate audio books.I often listen to them on an mp3 player before I go to sleep.Very relaxing and interesting.I guess I still like being read to before bedtime.lol

I always have an audiobook

I always have an audiobook playing in the car and try to read before bed. I'm usually sleeping in 20 min.

When the cable guy would come

When the cable guy would come around (about every 6 months) I'd ask him if I could order channels a la carte.

The reply was always the same, "No sorry but we do have a less expensive package." But the less expensive package never has any channels worth watching and I didn't want to pay for all of them just to get one or two.

So I always told them, "Tell your boss that I, and probably thousands of other people in this city would buy cable from you if we could just order the channels we wanted. Until then, I'll just watch TV on the internet."

The dinosaur cable companies don't get it. So instead of offering a la carte and getting rid of hundreds of worthless channels they decide to jack up internet prices.

The horror or government sponsored monopoly.

So I canceled my cable internet and use the internet exclusively through my phone. At least the cell companies have some competition.

Tv channels a la carte would be good.

Although I have not had cable tv in 7 years ,I would be willing to pay for a few channels.It would be great if there were a pro truth/freedom/peace channel that promoted principles as well as ideas for voluntary solutions to world problems.As of now,I still have to pay my local cable co for high speed internet,which they just raised to $55 a month.I get free over the air tv with an antenna,which I hardly watch,and use magicjack plus for unlimited home phone($30 a year or $2.50 a month) and prepaid tracfone for cell phone service(costs me about $7 a month because I use very few minutes).Magicjack claims they will be reselling low priced 4g high speed internet in the near future,but I am curious how well has it worked for you using the internet exclusively through your cell phone service?

Internet through my phone has

Internet through my phone has worked pretty well. I have unlimited data through Sprint. For a while i was stuck with 3g speeds but it wasn't that big a deal, watching movies was a little tedious as they'd take time to load. But my city recently got Sprints 4g service and it is as fast as my cable internet ever was through time warner. Sometimes the speed can slow down or I might lose the 4g signal and pick up 3g. But my old Time Warner connection used to slow down to and I'd lose my internet a couple times a month and have nothing for hours. So the phone has actually been better than cable internet.


I work for one of the largest MSM broadcasters in Europe...

...and I can tell you the "airtime sales" executives (the execs of the departments that sell the airtime) are very nervous, and fumbling for any way to try to avoid obsolescence in the very near future.

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Another advantage

Time Magazine article: http://healthland.time.com/2013/04/08/not-all-screens-are-eq...

A good way to defend your freedoms: www.libertymagazine.org

Welcome aboard....

Been about 5 years now, I can't imagine suffering through the brainwash again. And the Ads??? holy crap! They should pay the viewer to watch or at least make it free. Anyway they can cram that cable right up their tubes!

Hey Archons', we are taking our planet back and there's nothing you can do about it!

I am one of those households

We watch TV when we want to and when we have time which is rarely.

We have an internet connection and Netflix and Hulu Plus account. We also get like 5 digital HD channels through bunny ears. Most of what is on our TV is Thomas the Tank Engine for our son on Netflix.

I think between all of this we pay about $60 a month.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

We WERE hooking up for the football season only, BUT...

now, we are trying to see if we can find our games online instead!

Why? Well, we are sick to death of the Hollywood elitist pimps trying to shove their political agendas down our throat, and lately they've focused on singling out "Constitutional Extremists" on that movie, along with shoving the sodomite issue down our throats ad nauseum. We've had it.

Just go to

Your local sports bar!
More fun too.