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Devastating honeybee loss reported across United States


http://youtu.be/5nO9Uaou2Nw

Via Catholic.org

Fifty percent of the domestic honeybee population is dead, the greatest single-year loss of honeybees in the United States ever recorded. The dramatic loss of the bees is expected to affect consumers.



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Wow that is a great movie!

Wow that is a great movie! Thanks for posting. it really brings home how serious the threat is. That province in China where the bees have disappeared and they pollinate by hand is really disheartening and a glimpse into our future if we do not change the way we do our agriculture.

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Interesting info. re. "Caholic Online" and the owner of this

site: http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/Investigat...

Addresses credibility of the source.

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That has nothing to do with

That has nothing to do with the fact that bee populations have declined by 50% that is a fact.

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I was concerned about this (colony collapse disorder)

until I contacted the local beekeepers. We had a honeybee hive move into a container which we use to collect aluminum cans. They were rather docile and we could bar-b-que within a foot of the hive and nobody ever got stung. We left the hive alone for a little over a year when the presence of young children became a potential problem (did not want to face any kind of liablility issues, or see children get hurt). So we called all the local beekeepers and got the same story. Basically, africanized bees are not a problem, they did not want to come and collect the hive as they had no need for it, recommended that we kill off the hive and told us we would be doing them a favor if we did because more often than not, it is the wild hives which carry disease.

I think the last sentence (The dramatic loss of the bees is expected to affect consumers.) gives a clue as to what is going on here. They need an excuse to blame inflation on, and to distract from the actual cause of rising prices, that is, the printing of money.

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I don't know where you live

but if you can get a small beekeeper that owns just a few, most chances he will be glad to come and get them. If you can wait a week or two place an ad in the local shopper.

The thing with large commercial beekeepers they are manipulating hundreds of bee hives every day and just don't have the time. BTW the feral hives caring diseases are total BS, because feral hives come from those commercial beekeepers not getting honey boxes on fast enough. That why we need beekeepers they are always repopulating the wild bees.

I used to get calls all the time but usually by the time I get there they get impatient and spray them. I always tried to save any swarm that was in trouble, but it just pissed me off when they spray them after they call me.

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I live in deep South Texas. As far south as you can get without

being in Mexico. The first person to die in this country from "Africanized" bees was in the town I live. Two to three miles away from my house. I have called every single beekeeper in the area I could find. If there is someone who keeps bees as a hobby, I would not know. My uncle did, but he died a long time ago, and got rid of his bees because of the potential for lawsuits. I was going to get a box myself and learn how to do it, but the lawsuit thing again. This place is known as "Lawsuit Hell". Lawsuits are an industry down here as businesses that move into the area soon discover (hello SpaceX) Someone gets hurt, especially a child, I lose everything. And I do mean everything.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
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Those bees are not

Those bees are not africanized or you would not be able to get near them like you have. Get a box and go for it you'll find you get a real connection to your bees. Not to mention all that sweet honey they will make for you. They are natural docile honey bees they are not going to attack anyone. If you insist on getting rid of them don't kill them put an ad on craigslist or in a local throw away paper someone will come get them.

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I don't think they are Africanized either....

but they do get extreemely agitated from the noise of small gas engines. Every now and then 4 wheelers drive by and these bees behavior really changes. It is scarry. I know the guy that got killed by bees here was operating a weedeater when it happened. I cannot keep them in my yard for that reason. I like your suggestion about advertising to see if anyone is interested.

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Just FYI if you ever get

Just FYI if you ever get attacked by a hive best thing to do is go in the house or get in a car. You'll get some in with you but not enough to really hurt you and you can deal with them.

Some type of noises will agitate bees yes but I am telling you if they were going to attack you they would have done it by now. Agitation does not always mean they will attack. It might be how the sound echoes off the cans etc. (you said they were in some cans right?) You put them in a box and they will not be bothered by the sounds.

I got a feral open air hive out of a tree last year and accidently knocked off some of there comb trying to cut the branch. They were agitated as all hell but not one tried to sting me.

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A Few Questions, Hawkiye

How long have you had bees, and how many hives do you have?

Bees are territorial, once they find a permanent home, they defend it to the death.

I would suggest to soggy bottom boy, to buy a bee suit, veil and smoker, before he attempts to remove the bees.
The Honeybees are only docile for a few days right after they swarm, after that any Honeybees that have tried to make a permanent home will die defending it unless smoke and extreme caution is used.

I studied Africanized bees in Costa Rica several years ago and came to the conclusion that with a bee suit, veil, and smoke, they can bee domesticated by professional bee keepers.
Otherwise, if you don't want un-necessary stings, leave them alone.

Also, from my experience no two colonies act exactly the same.

beesting

No one ever said he should

No one ever said he should not wear a veil and use a smoker if he is going to handle the bees and transfer the hive to a box. And yes any hive will defend itself if they feel threatened enough. He says they have been doing stuff right by the bees and no problems etc. if they were Africans they would have attacked by now.

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Those bee keepers are full of it!

Yea well those local bee keepers are full of shit. 50% losese of bees is a serious problem! It is not wild hives that are likely to carry disease it is commercial hives and their practices. That is propaganda. Ask those idiots why they think they are losing up to 50% of their hives? If they say because of wild bees ask them to prove it.

Do not kill those bees if they are docile (bees generally are unless extremely provoked) why are you worried about kids? Make some more calls there are people who will take that hive for you. Find some natural bee keepers they will be glad to help preserve them. Wild or feral colonies are needed to preserve the bees and their diversity as they are not subjected to all the commercial junk beekeepers subject their colonies too that are causing all the problems.

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It's Not Propaganda In My Area !

There haven't been "FERAL" Honeybees in my area in several years.
Years ago people were calling me all the time to collect feral swarms, I haven't had a call in years.

Originally the loss was from Varroa mites, but for many years I haven't had much pollination on my fruit trees, I can PROVE it if you want to travel to Oregon. A beekeeper lives on my road.

A former beekeeping idiot.

beesting

Just because you aren't

Just because you aren't getting calls proves nothing. Feral hives are all over the place and I live in the Idaho Oregon border. I grabbed a feral hive last June and they are going strong. It's commercial beekeepers or those who use their techniques that are experiencing huge losses. gee you might think they would get a clue that they are doing something wrong when they lose up to half their their hives in a season... Sigh!

It is complete conjecture to say feral or wild hives have been taken out by mites. There is no way to track feral hives as they are often not even known so it ridiculous to claim they spread disease. What we do know is that commercial beekeepers are the ones losing hives that is a proven fact. So yes it is propaganda.

What are the beekeepers on your road loses? And why did you quit?

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Please let me respond.

Honeybees rob Honey from each other, commercial or feral. When a weak hive can't defend itself from an attack from thousands of robbers in late summer, desperate for winter stores of honey, the attack can be from feral AND commercial hives from up to many miles away. I had strong 3 story hives packed tight with dead bees, one fall morning, because the robber bees were so intent on robbing, they froze to death when the sun went down, and it got too cold and dark for them to fly.
Honeybees are blind at night, and need warm weather to fly.

Any diseases, mites, viruses, partial poisonings, are spread to all robbers, and carried back to their respective home hives, in a normal robber raid. The former Oregon state Honeybee department warned all the Oregon beekeepers before the varroa mite infestation attack happened, that when these mites {That reproduce in drone cells, and hitch rides on healthy bees} weaken strong hives,robbing commences.

Menthol was recommended to treat for varroa mites.

Also, diseases are spread during pollination in large orchards, because bees of every type are trucked in from all over the country, some not so healthy. There are no feral bees near orchards in California, because orchard trees and everything else are sprayed by toxins from planes periodically.

From the American bee journal:

http://www.americanbeejournal.com/

ALL Honeybees are susceptible to 14 different viruses, chalk brood,american and european foul brood, lack of water, lack of nectar producing plants, animal and human attacks, county spray {Vector control }that kills blackberry plants and any other plant in the way, plus the bees, and urban sprawl which destroys good bee forage areas, bears destroy feral and commercial hives in my area to name a few enemies of Honeybees. {Want to buy a black bear hide?}

The beekeeper on my road is currently out of town hauling his bees to orchards, commercial beekeepers in my area make most of their bee income from pollination contracts.

I quit when I moved to the south Pacific for about 2 years, and developed rheumatoid arthritis to the point of not being able to do the very hard work of commercial beekeeping, where many times 40 hours of no sleep is common place during the season.

Have a good day.

beesting

Thanks for describing all the

Thanks for describing all the practices of commercial beekeepers that are causing the losses in bees. That was the point of this thread I thought. It again proves that commercial practices are the problem and not feral hives as I keep hearing repeated. Sure a feral hive can get mites or disease etc. if they come into contact with commercial bees who have them but they are less likely because they do no monocroping they gather nectar and pollen from a diverse mix of plants much of them wild and without pesticides and they are not having their hives opened weekly/monthly or their honey stores stolen and replaced with sugar water, or trucked thousands of miles across the country picking up all the pesticides on the monocrops they are pollinating. All these things stress the bees.

Feral hives are more resistant to diseases and mites because they do not have all these stresses and they build natural comb instead of being dictated to with commercial foundation which makes bee size larger then bees naturally do in the wild. natural smaller bees makes them resistant to mites etc.

We are going to have a catastrophic failure in the food supply because of modern agriculture. The whole thing needs to change not just beekeepers. I worry about my bees because there is plenty of farmlands near enough to me that are monocroping spraying etc. So I have plenty for them that I have planted and hope it is enough diversity and letting them build natural comb and not messing with them etc. that they can over come it all. AS Soon as i can I will move out somewhere where I can plant the majority of their forage area or it is wild so I can worry less.

We need to swallow our pride and seriously look at the way we do things and start thinking of the bees the soil the environment etc. instead of just defending our failing practices "because we have been doing it that way for x amount of years"!

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Monsanto/GMO

Mutated pollen with insecticide and other poison may be killing off more than the bees!
Deer eating the leaves of GMO corn/beans might be also effected.
Michigan, GMO central, has had large numbers of dead deer found.
Is this why the President and his gang passed a get out of jail free waiver for monsanto???

NOSHEEPLE

Moose population is dying out in Minnesota

DNR and scientist claim they don't know why, This could also mean they are not going to tell you why.

Since Monsatan has bought every lab in the country with their donations and grants you may never get a straight answer. The only thing that has changed in the past 15 years is the way we farm, every thing is chemicals now.

I think Monsatan has seen a lot of the human population dying off, that's the reason for, M.P.A.

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Their habitat is shrinking too

I am planting Milkweed to help them out, you can order online.

Thank you! They also love

Thank you! They also love lavender and Salvia and both bloom all season long and late into the season.

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If you were still wondering whether the government has a role...

...they do. There's definitely a connection between pesticides and dying bees, as many have mentioned. But since 2010, the U.S. government has also been offering lower insurance premiums for growers using certain GMO corn - called SmartStax - that contains those particular pesticides. Just wrote about this yesterday: http://freedombunker.com/2013/04/10/government-role-in-honey...

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Bees Are Alive And Well

and doing just fine in Arkansas. The trees are abuzz daily right now. That's the kind of DRONE I like to hear! Keep Monsanto out of Arkansas!

skippy

Here in Southwest Minnesota

I never see bees in early spring until I bring mine from winter hold yards. I bought a farm with a bee tree on it, they were doing well last November. This spring I checked on them, all are dead. Wild bees in southwest Minnesota very rare.

What a lot of people don't realize bees will store most of the pollen they collect throughout the summer. They will eat this stored pollen (called bee bread) and feed the brood starting in January to prepare for summer buildup. The problem if the pollen is from GMO plants, it is laced with pesticides. So the bees slowly poison themselves in early spring. Most bee hives don't make into winter they die off in fall from the crops, they just disappear.

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SAVE THE BEES!!!!!!!!

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Someone doesn't want us to know the truth....

Dundee University (UK) research bees stolen:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-13335327

Illinois man's research hives stolen:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/07/0...

Hive stolen from Irish research farm:
http://www.joe.ie/news-politics/current-affairs/the-stranges...

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I think the comment below by Bilderberger_VO who finds

multiple pesticide residues on all the bees in the bee kills he investigates is the most telling information. I read a an article in Acre magazine a few years ago that there are also harmful practices of treating bees as a commercial business that upsets their natural way of life, such as trucking them around the country to farms that "rent" them, feeding them corn syrup junk food, and somehow disrupting their natural pollination cycle to keep them pollinating longer. There could be something to the other theories too, but it all amounts to interfering with their natural life cycle for "business". I hope more people plant bee attracting gardens and keep organic beehives. And keep spreading the word!

Debbie

Treating bees as a commercial business

does not harm them. If we didn't treat bees as a commercial business, there would not have been enough food in the stores for the past 50 years.

If we didn't treat cows and pigs as a commercial business, same thing. Keeping cows and horses locked up in pastures doesn't harm them, and neither does artificial insemination.

Trucking bees across the country has been going on for years

and has never caused any problems with any bee populations. They used to load bees on rail-road cars for pollination in California. If you ever trucked bees across the country you would realize your statements are pure false. I have trucked them into California and Texas from Minnesota, with no problems until the get home in Minnesota. Here they are completely surrounded by Corn and Soy bean crops. Usually I lose 10% by August then lose up to 50 to 70 % by October. Bee deaths weren't a problem until 2005 I lost 100 out of 300 in 3 weeks, and they were the best and strongest, all completely full of honey.

Two years ago I did something I never seen In 40 years of bees, that is I pulled over 100 Lbs of honey from each 80 different dead hives in October. That year I had 120 hives all were very healthy in august. Last year 19 hives left, today zero. All my bees have been murdered by Monsatan and Bayer from the coating on the corn and soybeans seeds with a nicotine derivative pesticide. This pesticide is so deadly the EPA has warnings on their website warning farmers to make sure all seeds are buried. They claim that all birds are at risk from death even the Bald Eagle is listed. The seeds can kill a bird if eaten.

There are no other problems with bee deaths only the corn and soy bean, if we repeal the pesticides the bee population would recover within two years. Stop using systemic pesticides they are the problem!

There is a Lawsuit against the EPA for permitting such lethal pesticides on the market, but with a rigged legal system I have no faith in justice. Only mass human population deaths that are coming in the future will stop Monsatan. My estimate is that 3 to 4 million Americans have died from the crops, but I think it will hit 25 to 50 million before it is all over. So far they have been able to mask the deaths to different cancers and Alzheimers and others diseases, but when we hit the 25 million mark the sheep will finally revolt. By then it will be too late the land will be totally devastated from poison being poured on to it. Mass starvation is next. Einstein once said when the bees die off the humans will follow. Any other causes of bee deaths are just PURE PROPAGANDA.

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Corn and soy can't be grown in my area,

so our bees are doing fine.

Monsanto protection act

just signed by Obama changes all. If a farmer wants to grow GMO's in a county which outlaws it, all he has to do is get an emergency exemption from the EPA.

M.P.A.= license to poison sheeple.

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